Panasonic 1080P plasma unable to accept 1080P??

[jcs913]

I know a few of you guys have the newer Panasonic 1080P Plasma's. I just read an article from the AVGuide, the link is here:

http://avguide.com/the-perfect-vision/

The reviewer of their Perfect Vision online mag on page 51 states as a negative that the Panasonic TH-58PX750U, which is their top of the line tv, cannot accept a 1080P signal. I know it has a 1080P resolution, but what is the point of that if it cannot accept a 1080P signal, like a BD? Obviously, it can accept a 1080i signal and I assume upconvert it, but that is not the point of the technology.
I honestly have been looking at the slightly smaller 50" Panny and nowhere does it say this on any of their info sheets. Can owners please confirm or deny this, as my focus will shift to Pioneer only, as I know their 1080P's can accept a 1080P signal.

[WriteSimply]

Some earlier HDTVs have 1080p panels (IE the plasma or LCD panels) but not 1080p video processing boards. This is where the problem lies. So the panels can handle it but not the boards. And you can't switch the boards either.

So go with a true 1080p HDTV instead. Better yet, go with a 1080p24 one.


fuad

[tiger roach]

I have the 50" Panny and it accepts 1080p from my bluray player and my PS3 just fine.

[gand41f]

Originally Posted by WriteSimply

Better yet, go with a 1080p24 one.

1080p24 is not too useful unless the TV can refresh at a multiple of 24Hz. Only Pioneer can do that so far among plamas.

See here for more

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=5155

enjoy
gandalf

[jcs913]

Originally Posted by tiger roach

I have the 50" Panny and it accepts 1080p from my bluray player and my PS3 just fine.

It can display any signal. But it says that it does not accept the 1080P signal. I think your Panny is accepting a 1080I signal and I assume upconverting it to 1080P. What my question is; Is it the same through upconversion as it is if it was to accept the raw 1080P signal?

[SS316SRV]

I am pretty sure that I my Panasonic accepts a 1080p/60i signal. That is what I get when I set my BDP-S300 to auto output.

[tiger roach]

Originally Posted by jcs913

It can display any signal. But it says that it does not accept the 1080P signal. I think your Panny is accepting a 1080I signal and I assume upconverting it to 1080P. What my question is; Is it the same through upconversion as it is if it was to accept the raw 1080P signal?

No it is accepting a 1080P signal. The PS3 only outputs the maximum signal that the TV it is playing through can accept, and it is pumping out 1080p.

It's not like I bought the set without knowing if it was "true" 1080p or not.

<edit> Just for clarification, my set is the TH-50PZ700U.

[Sonny]

Ok oK look the 1920x1080 1080p Pannys accept & display 1080p Ok , even my 720p panny accepts & processes 1080p but its only 1366x768 , so I'm not quite sure what your prob is ? Tell me more so I can help you better, as you can see I have lots of Panisonic's

[SS316SRV]

Originally Posted by Sonny

Ok oK look the 1920x1080 1080p Pannys accept & displays 1080p Ok , even my 720p panny accepts 1080p but its only 1366x768 or somthing so I'm not quite sure what your prob is ? Tell me more so I can help you better, as you can see I have lots of Panisonic's

Yea...Plus Sonny carries a gun. All he has to do is yell "HE'S COMING RIGHT FOR ME!" and you would be put down.

[jcs913]

Originally Posted by Sonny

Ok oK look the 1920x1080 1080p Pannys accept & display 1080p Ok , even my 720p panny accepts & processes 1080p but its only 1366x768 , so I'm not quite sure what your prob is ? Tell me more so I can help you better, as you can see I have lots of Panisonic's

I assume you guys read the review and saw on page 51 that it says it cannot accept a 1080P signal? Granted it is a review, but the guy is supposed to be a professional, so I assume he has the right tools to make that assumption.

[SS316SRV]

Originally Posted by jcs913

I assume you guys read the review and saw on page 51 that it says it cannot accept a 1080P signal? Granted it is a review, but the guy is supposed to be a professional, so I assume he has the right tools to make that assumption.

What did i tell you about Sonny? He can legally carry a gun...just give him an excuse.

[Sonny]

Originally Posted by SS316SRV

What did i tell you about Sonny? He can legally carry a gun...just give him an excuse.

YUP, I will say this 1 more time , that guy is full of $HIt......the end

[SS316SRV]

Anything can accept a 1080P signal. I saw a 42" Hewlett Packard plasma with a 1066x768 resolution. It could accept a 1080p signal.

[T-Town Oil]

shoot it to me straight on this one. would you or wouldnt you buy this tv again (thinking about getting the 58z700 this week). i was sold on it until this thread came up and then came the duobt

[dobyblue]

I would trust Gary Merson more than anyone else on this matter and he has tested the new line of Panny's. He also does all the 1080p tests for High Def Magazine.

http://hdguru.com/?p=100

After adjusting the user controls I began video performance evaluations using test patterns created by a Sencore HD signal generator, the latest HD HQV Benchmark and the new HD DVD version of the Video Essentials disc. Testing revealed the TH-50PZ750 sends the full bandwidth of the source material to the panel. In other words, the Panasonic reveals every fine detail within a high definition program or movie. Though the red and blue color points were very close to the high definition standard, the green was oversaturated. but not as far from the ideal coordinates as other flat panels I have measured.

The TH-50PZ750 properly deinterlaces 1080i signals into progressive, maintaining all 1080 lines. This was confirmed using the HQV test disc. Measuring brightness levels within Vivid (dealer showroom) mode maxed out at a blazing 57.5 ft lamberts. With the user controls (Custom mode) adjusted properly, maximum brightness came in at 22 ft. lamberts. This is quite bright for normal in-home lighting conditions. Black level was too low to measure accurately with my test equipment; in fact it was the lowest of any plasma I have tested to date. (This is not a contradiction, I know the spec of my meter’s accuracy and this panel was significantly below that level). The high brightness and low black level create a high contrast ratio, which was evident during viewing evaluations.

There has been a huge increase in the past year in the amount of HD availability. There are now hundreds of Blu-ray and HD DVD titles available, more HD channels are on many cable systems (including my choice, Verizon FIOS) and broadcast television has added local news in HD. NBC, CBS and ABC News in New York are all now in HD.

The TH-50PZ750 placed side by side with the Pioneer PRO-FHD1 made for an interesting comparison. How did the Panasonic’s image look? In a word: WOW. The overall picture quality excelled in reproducing dark and bright level details with a high contrast ratio.

The TH-50PZ750’s color accuracy was the best I have seen on a plasma display and it was the only panel evaluated that produces a true red. Comparing the Pioneer when viewing The Fast and Furious Tokyo Drift on HD DVD clearly showed the difference between Panasonic red and Pioneer red. The same car is red on the TH-50PZ750 and orange on the Pioneer. Ditto for the neon signs and lights of the Ginza in Tokyo at night, where red lights appear crimson versus Pioneer’s orange-y reds. Speaking of night scenes, the Panasonic’s deeper blacks revealed details that the Pioneer (and other plasmas) obscured, as if a veil had been lifted off the Pioneer’s panel.

Jay Leno’s blue sport jacket’s pinstripes provided a fine example of the Panasonic’s superior image. Both panels reproduced the pinstripes; but they were more distinct on the TH-50PZ750. The effect is not subtle; five friends performed the side-by-side tests with a variety of source material. They all picked the Panasonic as the best panel.

In conclusion, the Panasonic TH-50PZ750 is simply the best high definition display I have ever reviewed. With a retail of $3999 and an expected street price that will be even lower, I would also consider it a bargain.

From the manual for the TH-58PZ750U

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by SS316SRV

Anything can accept a 1080P signal. I saw a 42" Hewlett Packard plasma with a 1066x768 resolution. It could accept a 1080p signal.

This isn't true, not every device is capable of handshaking with a 1080p signal. It needs to have 1080p processing to be able to do this.

[SS316SRV]

Originally Posted by T-Town Oil

shoot it to me straight on this one. would you or wouldnt you buy this tv again (thinking about getting the 58z700 this week). i was sold on it until this thread came up and then came the duobt

I love my set. The picture is fantastic and the name alone screams reliability. The only negative is that it only has two HDMI inputs. It doesn't bother me that much.

Originally Posted by dobyblue

This isn't true, not every device is capable of handshaking with a 1080p signal. It needs to have 1080p processing to be able to do this.

Ok maybe not ANYTHING can accept a 1080p signal. But we can both agree that accepting 1080p is nowhere near as important as displaying a 1080p signal.

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by SS316SRV

we can both agree that accepting 1080p is nowhere near as important as displaying a 1080p signal.

Absolutely!

[tiger roach]

Originally Posted by jcs913

I assume you guys read the review and saw on page 51 that it says it cannot accept a 1080P signal? Granted it is a review, but the guy is supposed to be a professional, so I assume he has the right tools to make that assumption.

Yes, and I'm thinking that is a misprint. There wasn't anything in the text of the article about that, just in that blue box summary deal. If that was really the case shouldn't he have mentioned it in the article?

[turboLAZER]

Originally Posted by jcs913

I know a few of you guys have the newer Panasonic 1080P Plasma's. I just read an article from the AVGuide, the link is here:

http://avguide.com/the-perfect-vision/

The reviewer of their Perfect Vision online mag on page 51 states as a negative that the Panasonic TH-58PX750U, which is their top of the line tv, cannot accept a 1080P signal. I know it has a 1080P resolution, but what is the point of that if it cannot accept a 1080P signal, like a BD? Obviously, it can accept a 1080i signal and I assume upconvert it, but that is not the point of the technology.
I honestly have been looking at the slightly smaller 50" Panny and nowhere does it say this on any of their info sheets. Can owners please confirm or deny this, as my focus will shift to Pioneer only, as I know their 1080P's can accept a 1080P signal.

I have a 42"" panasonic plasma with a native res of 1024x768. My PS3 outputs a 1080p signal which my TV accepts then interlaces the signal to display at 1080i. so when i press the INFO button on my remote, the tv says 1080p but the picture being displayed is not 1080p.