Layer switch on Blu-ray. - Blu-ray Forum

xwingsct · 12-10-2007, 04:41 PM

Now that Sony have been using 50gb on their movies. Are we gonna be seeing layer switch in the middle of the movies like DVD now? That's one thing I didn't like about DVD.
How much space does it need for a movie to fit on Bluray? with max bit rate.

Spankey · 12-10-2007, 04:44 PM

"Now"?

If you haven't seen a layer switch in the last year chances are..

xwingsct · 12-10-2007, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spankey

"Now"?

If you haven't seen a layer switch in the last year chances are..

Well, I just got a player couple weeks ago and I don't really own that many movies yet that's why I'm asking the question for those who have large bluray collection.

docjan_uk · 12-10-2007, 04:55 PM

I never even noticed layer switching on DVD. The Denon had a large enough buffer.

quexos · 12-10-2007, 04:57 PM

I remember the layer switch triggering a freeze in the picture for about one second on DVD but with my PS3 I have so far never seen any switch freeze with any Blurays so I figure it's a thing of the past

jermwhl · 12-10-2007, 05:12 PM

Yes the buffers on BD players are large enough to have a smooth transition betweeen layers. Freezing in between layers is a thing of the past.

WickyWoo · 12-10-2007, 05:14 PM

seamless layer changes were in the Blu spec from the beginning

Amon37 · 12-10-2007, 05:23 PM

I still se layer changes in DVD sometimes but I have never seen it on any of my BD movies.

DrinkMore · 12-10-2007, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Amon37

I still se layer changes in DVD sometimes but I have never seen it on any of my BD movies.

Yup, same here. Never on a blu though.

ckenisell · 12-10-2007, 07:01 PM

Not only are the layer change pauses gone, but Blu-Ray supports seamless branching too. Check out Spiderman 2 and 2.1 (on the same Blu-Ray disc). You'll have to either buy the trilogy box set or rent the Spidey 2 Blu-ray on blockbuster.com or netflix.com.

Pretty awesome technology. I understand your concern xwingsct. I had the same concern when I bought my PS3, but I can confirm that there is no such thing as layer change pauses on Blu-ray. I will always be aware of this when watching higher capacity Blu-ray discs too (if BD100 or BD200 ever become a reality).

Hawknelson05 · 12-10-2007, 07:03 PM

i notice, i would say about half the movies I watch theres a half second of no audio. is that the old switcheroo?

BoogalooShrimp · 12-10-2007, 07:47 PM

Never noticed a blu-ray layer change I don't think we ever will.

gumpaholic · 12-10-2007, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ckenisell

Not only are the layer change pauses gone, but Blu-Ray supports seamless branching too. Check out Spiderman 2 and 2.1 (on the same Blu-Ray disc). You'll have to either buy the trilogy box set or rent the Spidey 2 Blu-ray on blockbuster.com or netflix.com.

Yes, and what about Close Encounters? There are 3 different versions on 1 disc. Pretty cool.

xwingsct · 12-10-2007, 11:05 PM

Cool that's one thing I hate in DVDs.
Some DVDs are pretty good at where they put the layer switch.
Some are very noticeable.

phillyfan1028 · 12-10-2007, 11:11 PM

yep, i have never noticed a pause or anything

clyon · 12-10-2007, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by gumpaholic

Yes, and what about Close Encounters? There are 3 different versions on 1 disc. Pretty cool.

at one point there was a little pause, like 1/4 sec or less & that is so far that the only time I have seen a 'layer switch' or whatever it was on any of my bd's. I was watching the 'Special Edition' version & have not gotten around to the others.

w_tanoto · 12-10-2007, 11:13 PM

noticed it on DVD, the most obvious is disney's parent trap (1998).
never ever seen a single glitch on BD

sj001 · 12-10-2007, 11:16 PM

With my PS2 is was always obvious, with the PS3, not at all, not even a microsecond of a blip.

mastertang · 12-10-2007, 11:18 PM

It's called advancement in technology, something you won't find on HDDUD. My first DVD player froze the first time I watched The Matrix and it hit the layer switch. At least Blu-ray took eliminating these technical hurdles seriously.

12-10-2007, 04:41 PM	#1
xwingsct Senior Member Member since:Nov 2007 Blu-ray reviews: 3	Layer switch on Blu-ray. Now that Sony have been using 50gb on their movies. Are we gonna be seeing layer switch in the middle of the movies like DVD now? That's one thing I didn't like about DVD. How much space does it need for a movie to fit on Bluray? with max bit rate.

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12-10-2007, 04:44 PM	#2
Spankey Power Member Member since:Oct 2006	"Now"? If you haven't seen a layer switch in the last year chances are..

12-10-2007, 04:55 PM	#4
docjan_uk Active Member Member since:Jun 2007 Blu-ray reviews:5	I never even noticed layer switching on DVD. The Denon had a large enough buffer.

12-10-2007, 04:57 PM	#5
quexos Banned Member since:May 2007 Location:Brussels, Belgium	I remember the layer switch triggering a freeze in the picture for about one second on DVD but with my PS3 I have so far never seen any switch freeze with any Blurays so I figure it's a thing of the past

12-10-2007, 05:12 PM	#6
jermwhl Special Member Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Virginia	Yes the buffers on BD players are large enough to have a smooth transition betweeen layers. Freezing in between layers is a thing of the past.

12-10-2007, 05:14 PM	#7
WickyWoo Blu-ray Champion Member since:May 2007 Trading Score:2	seamless layer changes were in the Blu spec from the beginning

12-10-2007, 05:23 PM	#8
Amon37 Power Member Member since:Jan 2007 Location:USA,Arizona PSNetwork: Amon37	I still se layer changes in DVD sometimes but I have never seen it on any of my BD movies.

12-10-2007, 07:01 PM	#10
ckenisell Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Round Rock, TX Blu-ray collection:368 Blu-ray reviews:3	Not only are the layer change pauses gone, but Blu-Ray supports seamless branching too. Check out Spiderman 2 and 2.1 (on the same Blu-Ray disc). You'll have to either buy the trilogy box set or rent the Spidey 2 Blu-ray on blockbuster.com or netflix.com. Pretty awesome technology. I understand your concern xwingsct. I had the same concern when I bought my PS3, but I can confirm that there is no such thing as layer change pauses on Blu-ray. I will always be aware of this when watching higher capacity Blu-ray discs too (if BD100 or BD200 ever become a reality).

12-10-2007, 07:03 PM	#11
Hawknelson05 Banned Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Gainesville Trading Score:1	i notice, i would say about half the movies I watch theres a half second of no audio. is that the old switcheroo?

12-10-2007, 07:47 PM	#12
BoogalooShrimp Special Member Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Las Vegas, NV Blu-ray collection:454	Never noticed a blu-ray layer change I don't think we ever will.

12-10-2007, 11:05 PM	#14
xwingsct Senior Member Member since:Nov 2007 Blu-ray reviews: 3	Cool that's one thing I hate in DVDs. Some DVDs are pretty good at where they put the layer switch. Some are very noticeable.

12-10-2007, 11:11 PM	#15
phillyfan1028 Junior Member Member since:Nov 2007	yep, i have never noticed a pause or anything

12-10-2007, 11:13 PM	#17
w_tanoto Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Hatfield, UK / Jakarta, Indonesia Blu-ray collection:37 Blu-ray reviews:47	noticed it on DVD, the most obvious is disney's parent trap (1998). never ever seen a single glitch on BD

12-10-2007, 11:16 PM	#18
sj001 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Rochester, NY Blu-ray collection:317 DVD collection:17 Trading Score:5	With my PS2 is was always obvious, with the PS3, not at all, not even a microsecond of a blip.

12-10-2007, 11:18 PM	#19
mastertang Active Member Member since:May 2007 Blu-ray collection:62 Blu-ray reviews: 3	It's called advancement in technology, something you won't find on HDDUD. My first DVD player froze the first time I watched The Matrix and it hit the layer switch. At least Blu-ray took eliminating these technical hurdles seriously.

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