BDP-S500 and DTS-MA - Blu-ray Forum

jdsanko · 12-10-2007, 05:09 PM

According to the users manual, the Sony BDP-S500 outputs 5.1 channels through the analog outs when presented with DTS-MA. Is this the full DTS-MA or just the core? I did not think that any players out today could decode DTS-MA to analog.

quetzalcoatl · 12-10-2007, 06:17 PM

It is just core. Until it gets a FW update it will not even do bitstream.

JimPullan · 12-10-2007, 09:54 PM

I just got confirmation from my contact withing Sony that the BDPS-500 and the BDPS-2000ES will "Not" be firware upgradeable to dts-HD Master. It is a hardware issue and won't be included until the next generation of Blu-ray players. They said don't expect this until around CEDIA or later. Not good news, but at least it's an honest answer from a trustworthy Sony design engineer. [Jim]

aqupunk · 12-10-2007, 09:58 PM

Talk about dropping the ball.......

quetzalcoatl · 12-10-2007, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimPullan

I just got confirmation from my contact withing Sony that the BDPS-500 and the BDPS-2000ES will "Not" be firware upgradeable to dts-HD Master. It is a hardware issue and won't be included until the next generation of Blu-ray players. They said don't expect this until around CEDIA or later. Not good news, but at least it's an honest answer from a trustworthy Sony design engineer. [Jim]

No it is not good news and not smart either. I am not sure how it can be hardware since they are a rebagged Pioneer 95. Guess they cut some corners with them. More bad press to be used against Sony by the haters once this comes to light.

celle · 12-14-2007, 05:33 PM

In the German Home Cinema magazine "Homevision" is a test from the Sony BDP-S500 and they were suprised, the new Sony can do DTS-HD MA as bit stream (although Sony does not indicate it in the manual)! Tested with "Chronos" Blu-ray DTS-HD MA and an HDMI 1.3-amplifier! The lights on the amplifier showed "DTS-HD Master"!

New firmware for the test unit?

bootman · 12-14-2007, 11:28 PM

Yes, I have seen other reports of the euro version of this player bitstreaming DTS-MA.

Makes sence to me since the current Pioneer elite 95 does bitstream DTS-MA and it is the basis of the Sony unit.
(Yes Pioneer makes these for Sony)

jdsanko · 12-18-2007, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimPullan

I just got confirmation from my contact withing Sony that the BDPS-500 and the BDPS-2000ES will "Not" be firware upgradeable to dts-HD Master. It is a hardware issue and won't be included until the next generation of Blu-ray players. They said don't expect this until around CEDIA or later. Not good news, but at least it's an honest answer from a trustworthy Sony design engineer. [Jim]

Is this for real? I find it hard to believe that at this price point they can not address DTS-MA. As far as I am concerned this whole DTS-MA think has been a really big miss on Sony's part. I will not buy a BD player that does nto support it. I quess I will have to wait until next year.

DrasticPlastic · 12-18-2007, 05:15 PM

Sony needs to get on the ball and include DTS-HD MA decoding on the PS3 asap!!

quetzalcoatl · 12-20-2007, 06:23 AM

Well it looks like Sony is muddying the water again. It sounds like MA but without the whole name it could be HR.

http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/...52921665227485

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Dolby® TrueHD, dts®-HD Bitstream out over HDMI™
The future of surround sound arrives with Blu-ray Disc technology. With the BDP-S500, you can enjoy incredible new audio codecs from both Dolby Laboratories and Digital Theater Systems (dts). Simply by connecting your Blu-ray Disc player to the HDMI connection on your A/V Receiver, the BDP-S500 can either output or internally decode Dolby TrueHD & dts-HD. - Dolby TrueHD delivers lossless studio master quality audio designed specifically for high definition entertainment like Blu-ray Disc movies. An incredible sound stage, dynamic range and a stellar Home Theater experience await you with Dolby TrueHD. - dts-HD gives you sound quality that matches the crystal clear image of Blu-ray Disc media. With up to 7.1 channels of surround sound and audio that is indistinguishable form the original studio version, dts-HD promises you an extraordinary surround experience.

kevin55 · 12-21-2007, 11:25 AM

Well..the new firmware ver 3.50 (for the S500) is now posted on the e-support site..nothing to do with DTS-MA..just the same ol' crap...oh well..

http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/swu...=BDPS500&LOC=3

12-10-2007, 05:09 PM	#1
jdsanko Member Member since:Jun 2007	BDP-S500 and DTS-MA According to the users manual, the Sony BDP-S500 outputs 5.1 channels through the analog outs when presented with DTS-MA. Is this the full DTS-MA or just the core? I did not think that any players out today could decode DTS-MA to analog.

12-14-2007, 05:33 PM	#6
celle Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Germany	DTS-HD MA on the way? In the German Home Cinema magazine "Homevision" is a test from the Sony BDP-S500 and they were suprised, the new Sony can do DTS-HD MA as bit stream (although Sony does not indicate it in the manual)! Tested with "Chronos" Blu-ray DTS-HD MA and an HDMI 1.3-amplifier! The lights on the amplifier showed "DTS-HD Master"! New firmware for the test unit?

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12-10-2007, 06:17 PM	#2
quetzalcoatl Special Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Grants Pass, OR	It is just core. Until it gets a FW update it will not even do bitstream.

12-10-2007, 09:54 PM	#3
JimPullan Senior Member Member since:Jun 2006 Location:Ocala, FL	I just got confirmation from my contact withing Sony that the BDPS-500 and the BDPS-2000ES will "Not" be firware upgradeable to dts-HD Master. It is a hardware issue and won't be included until the next generation of Blu-ray players. They said don't expect this until around CEDIA or later. Not good news, but at least it's an honest answer from a trustworthy Sony design engineer. [Jim]

12-10-2007, 09:58 PM	#4
aqupunk Expert Member Member since:Jun 2007 Home Theater Gallery:2 4K collection:54 Blu-ray collection:246 Trading Score:1	Talk about dropping the ball.......

12-14-2007, 11:28 PM	#7
bootman Special Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:The Burghs	Yes, I have seen other reports of the euro version of this player bitstreaming DTS-MA. Makes sence to me since the current Pioneer elite 95 does bitstream DTS-MA and it is the basis of the Sony unit. (Yes Pioneer makes these for Sony)

12-18-2007, 05:15 PM	#9
DrasticPlastic Senior Member Member since:Dec 2007 Home Theater Gallery:6 Trading Score:2	Sony needs to get on the ball and include DTS-HD MA decoding on the PS3 asap!!

12-21-2007, 11:25 AM	#11
kevin55 Member Member since:Oct 2007 Blu-ray reviews:1	Well..the new firmware ver 3.50 (for the S500) is now posted on the e-support site..nothing to do with DTS-MA..just the same ol' crap...oh well.. http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/swu...=BDPS500&LOC=3

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