Kosty gone FUD mad, suggests either Panny, Pioneer or Philips to go dual @ CES

[dobyblue]

http://forums.highdefdigest.com/show...6&postcount=12

I was told that two formally Blu-ray only CE companies at CEDIA in Sep said they had dual format players they had in development that they would announce at CES.

I met a prominent A/V writer from Secrets of Home Theater there who said he was told the same thing when he did media interviews with CE company officers and that the Paramount switch and low Blu-ray sales for their existing players were reasons for the change in dual format support.

Another hardware insider told me to think that the new dual format companies started with P and S. He was unsure if they would announce at CES, but that they had models in development.

Phillips and Sharp and Pioneer and Sanyo and Panasonic start with P & S.

A contact in a retailer manufacturers representative group told me Denon has a dual format player in development.

I have also heard the names Pioneer and Sharp mentioned. They happen to start with P & S.

At CEDIA I talked with some engineers from Panasonic who said they wanted to demo a Xbox 360 HD DVD add on with a HDTV at their booth but were told from corporate that was a nogo because they did not want to imply any support for HD DVD at that time at CEDIA and that Panasonic had contractual obligations thru Jan 1st not to publicly display any HD DVD items. After Jan 1st that could be allowed.

My guess at this time is Denon, Sharp and either Pioneer or Phillips have dual format players in development and will announce at CES those models. That will add on to a big dual format push from Samsung and LG who will announce price reductions and profile 2.0 Blu-ray and HD DVD TL51 support for their new players a CES. Thats pure speculation though on my part based on what I noted above.

How friggin' desperate is this shill?

• Philips are the #1 developer of Blu-ray Disc technology.
• Pioneer have the head position in the BDA.
• Panasonic do all the AVC encodes for Fox and Disney and have BD replication facilities, authoring facilities and have gone out on the road with Disney to educate people regarding Blu-ray technology.
• Sharp just announced three months ago that they intend to be the #1 manufacturer of Blu-ray players and they already have an all in one solution and a standalone player.

I can tell you that there is no way in hell you will see a Panasonic dual format player announced at CES and there is no way in hell you will see Panasonic hooking up a 360 add-on to their plasma sets. They are well aware of how much better Blu-ray is thanks to bandwidth over HD DVD and that's why they bothered to show 50 journalists a few weeks ago at Panasonic Hollywood Labs a 2k master being projected on a 100" screen split with the BD of Silver Surfer. Ask any of the 50 people in attendance if they were able to spot the difference.

This guy has gone from typical joker to outright liar. In three weeks you will see CES come and pass and Panasonic, Sharp, Pioneer and Philips will all still be Blu-ray exclusive CE companies.

You know I thought the shilling by people like rdjam, hmurchison and others was bad last year, but this year they have gone over the top. Don't they realise how much shit is going to be on their faces in three weeks?

Anyway, bookmark that thread, then bookmark my post, then someone who can post over there go ahead and copy this post in there and see who was right, Kosty or doby.

[xtop]

after skimming over some threads over there. its become very apparent that nothing is fact. there's all kinds of threads about disney going hd dvd exclusive and other absurd things. not sure why anyone here even gives them the time of day

[blitz6speed]

They are doing last minute lies to get people excited and hopes of them spreading it into other people, but kosty, you douchebag, you will get yours soon. Karma is aweful when you try to deceive people.

[95pgtproject]

That Kosty guy is a complete toucher. Hes just trying to sound informed but its very obvious he is really pulling masses of shit out his ass for the a last min FUDathon.

[MrBogey]

I remember someone did a brilliant post where they quoted all of Kosty's claims as well as his predictions. They were all horribly off.

I love it how AVS has a rumor thread where whispers against BD get posted but if you post about verifiable rumors i the industry concerning Warner, you get them deleted. Some once reputable sites love being a tool apparently.

[Spankey]

Anything can happen from these hardware manufacturers. Kosty is related to Drunken Tivo guy, so I don't put too much weight behind it. Weren't they both speculating/stating that Warner had taken the Toshiba bribe which never came to pass? CES will be interesting, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

[Esox50]

Doby's got it called right. This guy is a j*rk*ff. Like I posted a few weeks ago, here's simplified example of a Kosty prediction:
18 months ago - "Chinese players are coming to HD DVD; the end is near"

12 months ago - "Ooops, now Chinese players are REALLY coming to HD DVD; the end is near"

8 months ago - "Ooops, now Chinese players are REALLY coming to HD DVD; the end is near"

5 months ago - "Ooops, now Chinese players are REALLY coming to HD DVD; the end is near"

2 months ago - "Ooops, now Chinese players are REALLY coming to HD DVD; the end is near"

Recently - "See, I was right, Chinese players are here."

[Maximus]

Actually he isn't talking that much rubbish, a formally format exclusive CE is thinking about going dual format.

Isn't from this side of the fence though , and the name does begin with P or S .

Got it yet?

No?

Don't worry, it's Sanyo, the former HD DVD PRG board member has been actively looking at building dual format players even though they have shown HD DVD only players at the last 4 or 5 trade shows.

[RUR]

Immediately after the chinese players at Walmart rumor was officially denied, Kosty repeatedly posted that he had highly-placed insider information that the denial was a screen and that Walmart would absolutely carry chinese players by Christmas. We can see how that's turned out.

[Anthony P]

I don't know if he is a jerk0ff but he is definitely a gullible tool. Like others have said his "informants" are all third tear FUDsters who consider themselves insiders because they have contacts that consider themselves insiders and they (his insiders) have never posted anything remotely true.

It is the same joke with all HD DVD supporters

A says I heard blah blah from my informant to B, C and D
B says I heard blah blah from my informant to E, F, G and confirms it to the others that he heard the same thing
C says I heard blah blah from my informant to F, G, H and confirms it to the others that he heard the same thing
D says I heard blah blah from my informant to H, I, J and confirms it to the others that he heard the same thing...

then some tool posts it on AVS and says I heard it from a few sources. And soon a few more jump on and confirm it as well from their insiders.

[Anthony P]

Don't worry, it's Sanyo, the former HD DVD PRG board member has been actively looking at building dual format players even though they have shown HD DVD only players at the last 4 or 5 trade shows.

shown but never produced.

[MrBogey]

The thing with CE is you can't look solely at America. CE companies work globally. As such, HD DVD is getting outsold by several times on a global scal and continues to slip. If I was an international company, I wouldn't base my company's livelihood on 1 market where a format is barely within striking range of parity.

[Toony]

Originally Posted by RUR

Immediately after the chinese players at Walmart rumor was officially denied, Kosty repeatedly posted that he had highly-placed insider information that the denial was a screen and that Walmart would absolutely carry chinese players by Christmas. We can see how that's turned out.

Eh are you talking about the Venturer? I cant tell if you're being sarcastic or what.

[Maximus]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

shown but never produced.

Yeah, why do you think they never produced them...

[mattym]

walmart have that cheapass player(the venturer, not the tosh) on their website..

sanyo...i had forgotten about them!

Panasonic...that will be matsushita then..one of the primary developers of BD if i'm not mistaken?

[RUR]

Originally Posted by Toony

Eh are you talking about the Venturer? I cant tell if you're being sarcastic or what.

Should've been more precise: The rumor was that Walmart had inked a deal to buy 2M chinese HD DVD players which, according to Kosty et al, would end the format war with a single stroke.

Edit: Original AVS thread here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=836632
though there were many, many other threads same subject.

[Anthony P]

Eh are you talking about the Venturer? I cant tell if you're being sarcastic or what.

I think he is talking about http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...ayer-deal.html

[JTK]

Fox, Disney, certain CE companies are all going neutral (at least) according to the DUDers FUD for the past two years now. It hasn't happened yet and it's not going to happen.

[GaS]

CES is gonna rock.

[phloyd]

Originally Posted by Maxpower1987

Don't worry, it's Sanyo, the former HD DVD PRG board member has been actively looking at building dual format players even though they have shown HD DVD only players at the last 4 or 5 trade shows.

I am amazed that they are actually going to release a player... One of the highest profile 'no show's in hardware it would seem...