Should the BDA help Weinstein? - Blu-ray Forum

zipbags · 01-17-2008, 08:34 PM

I asked this of Bill Hunt in the insiders forum. But, wanted to see what the posters here thought. Anyway, I have read that the main reason the Weinstein company hasn't released on blu or even hd-dvd (lately) is that they don't have the money to do it. So my question is this. Should the BDA help with either cash or discounted replication fees to help them release on blu? Maybe, have them release a movie that was never produced for hd-dvd.

JasonS · 01-17-2008, 08:53 PM

From what I understand, the BDA was willing to help but then Weinstein pushed to far. I believe these details were provided by Penton or Maxpower in our old Insiders Thread.

The BDA offered to give Weinstein money to go Blu-ray exclusive. That was agreed to in principal. Then Weinstein came back and said, "we'll take the money to go Blu-ray exclusive AND we want more money to actually RELEASE titles on Blu-ray." The BDA at that point basically said "hell no" and the deal fell threw.

So I blame this all on Weinstein; they are hurting financially so it makes sense they want to keep pushing for cash but common guys.

Gamma_Winstead · 01-17-2008, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JasonS

From what I understand, the BDA was willing to help but then Weinstein pushed to far. I believe these details were provided by Penton or Maxpower in our old Insiders Thread.

The BDA offered to give Weinstein money to go Blu-ray exclusive. That was agreed to in principal. Then Weinstein came back and said, "we'll take the money to go Blu-ray exclusive AND we want more money to actually RELEASE titles on Blu-ray." The BDA at that point basically said "hell no" and the deal fell threw.

So I blame this all on Weinstein; they are hurting financially so it makes sense they want to keep pushing for cash but common guys.

eyes and their first planned title was going to be Halloween: Unrated on december 18th. I had pre-ordered it from F.Y.E. even.

bajor27 · 01-17-2008, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JasonS

From what I understand, the BDA was willing to help but then Weinstein pushed to far. I believe these details were provided by Penton or Maxpower in our old Insiders Thread.

The BDA offered to give Weinstein money to go Blu-ray exclusive. That was agreed to in principal. Then Weinstein came back and said, "we'll take the money to go Blu-ray exclusive AND we want more money to actually RELEASE titles on Blu-ray." The BDA at that point basically said "hell no" and the deal fell threw.

So I blame this all on Weinstein; they are hurting financially so it makes sense they want to keep pushing for cash but common guys.

I would have said yes until I read this post. I'm fine with helping to a point, especially since there are some titles that I'd really like to own. I guess that once Blu becomes more mainstream they'll release them anyway though.

Having Weinstein wouldn't really help drive consumers anyway IMO, so as long as they still aren't releasing HD-DVDs, than they aren't hurting Blu in any way either.

sj001 · 01-17-2008, 09:05 PM

Seeing as the BDA already offered money to them, and then they wanted more, NO WAY! Let them find their own funding, they will certainly see they can make good money on BD in due time.

jedisinclair · 01-17-2008, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by sj001

Seeing as the BDA already offered money to them, and then they wanted more, NO WAY! Let them find their own funding, they will certainly see they can make good money on BD in due time.

+1

Mpaa_Sux · 01-17-2008, 09:23 PM

BDA shuld not have to give money to them thay shuld offer suport as far as layouts and manufactureing... Id love to see grindhouse and many others on blu but sofar the Co. has no plans of any blu..

Fell free to voice your oppinion about how you want some of the moves on blu and be nice about it.

Sarah Levinson, of The Weinstein Company, 212-941-3875,
sarah.levinson@weinsteinco.com

kowhite · 01-17-2008, 09:27 PM

They should help them get Grindhouse out, even if it means violent force to make it happen.

Otherwise...I dont' care.

Mystique · 01-17-2008, 09:28 PM

Is this company like a a sub company of a another company. I.E. Paramount and dreamworks.

Musashi · 01-17-2008, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystique

Is this company like a a sub company of a another company. I.E. Paramount and dreamworks.

Weinstein is it's own entity. It was founded by ex-Disney/Miramax producers Bob and Harvey Weinstein. This is why you see guys like Kevin Smith and Quentin Tarantino doing business with them, as they used to go through Miramax for thier films.

JAGUAR1977 · 01-17-2008, 10:31 PM

Money should only be offered if they can pick and choose the first dozen titles.

Ascended_Saiyan · 01-18-2008, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by kowhite

They should help them get Grindhouse out, even if it means violent force to make it happen.

Otherwise...I dont' care.

I believe you will be able to import this from Germany anyway...no love lost.

Geech · 01-18-2008, 03:19 AM

They should give them some help, but not just $

tru_to_blu · 01-18-2008, 04:17 AM

I would love to see the Halloween remake and Grindhouse on Blu-ray.

hoser · 01-18-2008, 04:20 AM

Help Weinstein?
WTF for?
Take a look at their HUGE catalog....

mystiksuicide · 01-18-2008, 04:28 AM

Damn that really stinks, I would love to see Mist and 1408 on blu

Cartesian · 01-18-2008, 06:24 AM

Anton Corbijn's film about Joy Division, 'Control', which was universally praised last year, is distributed by Weinstein. I wound kill to have that on Blu!! Fingers crossed...

darinp2 · 01-18-2008, 06:57 AM

How about this? Disney tells the Weinsteins that if they release Grindhouse and Kill Bill: The Whole Bloody Affair on Blu-ray soon, then Disney will hold off on releasing Kill Bill 1 and Kill Bill 2 on Blu-ray for a while, so that the Weinsteins will get many sales to people who will only buy whichever Kill Bill comes out first on Blu-ray and will not double dip. Then Sony helps with the mastering. If the Weinsteins turn it down, then Disney moves their Kill Bill versions way up in their queue and gets them out soon. Nothing against the Weinsteins, just business, and Disney would be doing them a favor by offering to let them release their Kill Bill first. Seems like a deal could be reached as long as nobody gets unreasonable.

--Darin

Marcusarilius · 01-18-2008, 07:04 AM

I have a better idea. Instead of them trying to hold us over a barrel, how about if we/BDA make them an offer they couldn't refuse.

You come on board now or you are out for three years from our format with Miiiiillions lost in potential revenue. How long do you think it would take for the proper decision to be made? Seconds? Same offer applies elsewhere as well.

Beta-guy · 01-18-2008, 08:13 AM

I want 1408, but if they aren't willing to release on Blu-ray then that's a lost sale for them as I am only buying Blu-ray.

01-17-2008, 08:34 PM	#1
zipbags Active Member Member since:Nov 2007	Should the BDA help Weinstein? I asked this of Bill Hunt in the insiders forum. But, wanted to see what the posters here thought. Anyway, I have read that the main reason the Weinstein company hasn't released on blu or even hd-dvd (lately) is that they don't have the money to do it. So my question is this. Should the BDA help with either cash or discounted replication fees to help them release on blu? Maybe, have them release a movie that was never produced for hd-dvd.

01-18-2008, 06:57 AM	#18
darinp2 Expert Member Member since:May 2007	How about this? Disney tells the Weinsteins that if they release Grindhouse and Kill Bill: The Whole Bloody Affair on Blu-ray soon, then Disney will hold off on releasing Kill Bill 1 and Kill Bill 2 on Blu-ray for a while, so that the Weinsteins will get many sales to people who will only buy whichever Kill Bill comes out first on Blu-ray and will not double dip. Then Sony helps with the mastering. If the Weinsteins turn it down, then Disney moves their Kill Bill versions way up in their queue and gets them out soon. Nothing against the Weinsteins, just business, and Disney would be doing them a favor by offering to let them release their Kill Bill first. Seems like a deal could be reached as long as nobody gets unreasonable. --Darin Last edited by darinp2; 01-18-2008 at 07:00 AM.

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01-17-2008, 08:53 PM	#2
JasonS Special Member Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Denver, CO Blu-ray collection:107 Trading Score:76	From what I understand, the BDA was willing to help but then Weinstein pushed to far. I believe these details were provided by Penton or Maxpower in our old Insiders Thread. The BDA offered to give Weinstein money to go Blu-ray exclusive. That was agreed to in principal. Then Weinstein came back and said, "we'll take the money to go Blu-ray exclusive AND we want more money to actually RELEASE titles on Blu-ray." The BDA at that point basically said "hell no" and the deal fell threw. So I blame this all on Weinstein; they are hurting financially so it makes sense they want to keep pushing for cash but common guys.

01-17-2008, 09:05 PM	#5
sj001 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Rochester, NY Blu-ray collection:317 DVD collection:17 Trading Score:5	Seeing as the BDA already offered money to them, and then they wanted more, NO WAY! Let them find their own funding, they will certainly see they can make good money on BD in due time.

01-17-2008, 09:23 PM	#7
Mpaa_Sux Member Member since:Oct 2007	BDA shuld not have to give money to them thay shuld offer suport as far as layouts and manufactureing... Id love to see grindhouse and many others on blu but sofar the Co. has no plans of any blu.. Fell free to voice your oppinion about how you want some of the moves on blu and be nice about it. Sarah Levinson, of The Weinstein Company, 212-941-3875, sarah.levinson@weinsteinco.com

01-17-2008, 09:27 PM	#8
kowhite Active Member Member since:Aug 2007 4K collection:119 Blu-ray collection:727 DVD collection:3 Trading Score:65	They should help them get Grindhouse out, even if it means violent force to make it happen. Otherwise...I dont' care.

01-17-2008, 09:28 PM	#9
Mystique Expert Member Member since:Apr 2007 Location:Newark, CA Blu-ray collection:240 Blu-ray reviews:5 Trading Score:1	Is this company like a a sub company of a another company. I.E. Paramount and dreamworks.

01-17-2008, 10:31 PM	#11
JAGUAR1977 Special Member Member since:Aug 2007 Blu-ray reviews:1	Money should only be offered if they can pick and choose the first dozen titles.

01-18-2008, 03:19 AM	#13
Geech Active Member Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Reading, PA Blu-ray reviews:2	They should give them some help, but not just $

01-18-2008, 04:17 AM	#14
tru_to_blu Power Member Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Kentucky 4K collection:280 Blu-ray collection:1167 Trading Score:62	I would love to see the Halloween remake and Grindhouse on Blu-ray.

01-18-2008, 04:20 AM	#15
hoser Active Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Hog Heaven	Help Weinstein? WTF for? Take a look at their HUGE catalog....

01-18-2008, 04:28 AM	#16
mystiksuicide Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Miami Blu-ray collection:305 Blu-ray reviews:27	Damn that really stinks, I would love to see Mist and 1408 on blu

01-18-2008, 06:24 AM	#17
Cartesian Member Member since:Apr 2007 Location:London, UK	Anton Corbijn's film about Joy Division, 'Control', which was universally praised last year, is distributed by Weinstein. I wound kill to have that on Blu!! Fingers crossed...

01-18-2008, 07:04 AM	#19
Marcusarilius Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Seattle, WA. Blu-ray reviews:52 Trading Score:1	I have a better idea. Instead of them trying to hold us over a barrel, how about if we/BDA make them an offer they couldn't refuse. You come on board now or you are out for three years from our format with Miiiiillions lost in potential revenue. How long do you think it would take for the proper decision to be made? Seconds? Same offer applies elsewhere as well.

01-18-2008, 08:13 AM	#20
Beta-guy Expert Member Member since:Jul 2007 Blu-ray collection:23 Blu-ray reviews:1	I want 1408, but if they aren't willing to release on Blu-ray then that's a lost sale for them as I am only buying Blu-ray.

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