Pioneer vs. Panny. Help! - Blu-ray Forum

Betamax · 04-07-2008, 03:22 AM

Ok, I'm ready to pull the trigger in about 2 weeks and made my choice with the Pioneer PDP6010 60 inch. Now i've been reading about the Panasonic TH-58PZ700U 58 inch. Cnet gave the Panny 8 out of 10 and most reviews say its a great set. I havent seen it in person so I am just going by reviews. The Pioneer I have seen and well, it was smokin'

. Now, there is also a price difference of about $1500 between the two. My concern is if that price difference is justified or not. I dont think the $$ difference between the standard Pioneer and the Elite is justified, but thats just me {ymmv,etc..}. I'm not really concerned with the overall cost as much as I am concerned about spending my money wisely

Anyone own the Panny that could chime in? Any Kuro owners make the decision? Any and all opinions would be greatly appreciated!! Thanks.

richteer · 04-07-2008, 03:38 AM

My friend Jeff will probably kill me for saying this, but if it was my oney I was spending, it'd be the 6010. Easy decision! (His Panny 50Z750 is a great TV, but I'd rather have the Kuro...)

werewuf · 04-07-2008, 03:45 AM

Either Kuro is going to be superior to the Panny. The Elite does have better picture processing than the regular Pio, and it also comes with a two year warranty vs. a one year for the non-Elite.

HDTV1080P · 04-07-2008, 03:48 AM

The Pioneer not only has deep blacks but it also displays 1080P/24 correctly on the screen making BLU-RAY discs look closer to film. The Panasonic model you mentioned uses a 3:2 pulldown method when 1080P/24 is inputted. There is no benefit to having a 1080P/24 input if a 3:2 pulldown process is used.

savage1984 · 04-07-2008, 03:53 AM

Look I own the panasonic 750u. The only tv better than it is the Kuro or elite. Pioneer is better than panasonic barely. I think if price was a concern you'd be considerably satisfied with the panasonic. I am. I couldn't justify $1500 more that small of a difference. If it isn't a big deal, then by all means go with the Pioneer. Either tv will impress. Good luck

HDTV1080P · 04-07-2008, 03:58 AM

Both the non elite and Elite versions are excellent displays. The Elite versions have a little deeper blacks compared to the non Elite's.

Here are some reviews to look at

50 inch Elite
http://ultimateavmag.com/flatpaneldisplays/308pio110fd/index.html

60 inch Elite
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2233915,00.asp

Here is a review on the Pioneer Kuro PDP-6010FD
http://ultimateavmag.com/flatpaneldisplays/1007piok60/

ManUtd · 04-07-2008, 06:26 AM

My friend has that Panasonic, it is very good for the price. But IMO it doesn't come close to the Kuro. If you are okay with the price difference then go for the Kuro.

zed0118 · 04-07-2008, 12:37 PM

I just bought (yesterday) the Panasonic TH-50PZ85U plasma model. Man, what an awesome tv. Beautiful PQ ...

The Pioneer is a nice set as well ... just a bit too expensive.

View Poll Results: Which would you choose?
Pioneer Kuro PDP6010	15	71.43%
Panasonic TH-58PZ700U	6	28.57%
Voters: 21. You may not vote on this poll

04-07-2008, 03:22 AM	#1
Betamax Active Member Member since:Jan 2007 Blu-ray collection:493 Trading Score:2	Pioneer vs. Panny. Help! Ok, I'm ready to pull the trigger in about 2 weeks and made my choice with the Pioneer PDP6010 60 inch. Now i've been reading about the Panasonic TH-58PZ700U 58 inch. Cnet gave the Panny 8 out of 10 and most reviews say its a great set. I havent seen it in person so I am just going by reviews. The Pioneer I have seen and well, it was smokin' . Now, there is also a price difference of about $1500 between the two. My concern is if that price difference is justified or not. I dont think the $$ difference between the standard Pioneer and the Elite is justified, but thats just me {ymmv,etc..}. I'm not really concerned with the overall cost as much as I am concerned about spending my money wisely Anyone own the Panny that could chime in? Any Kuro owners make the decision? Any and all opinions would be greatly appreciated!! Thanks.

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04-07-2008, 03:38 AM	#2
richteer Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Kelowna, BC Trading Score:1	My friend Jeff will probably kill me for saying this, but if it was my oney I was spending, it'd be the 6010. Easy decision! (His Panny 50Z750 is a great TV, but I'd rather have the Kuro...)

04-07-2008, 03:45 AM	#3
werewuf Expert Member Member since:Jun 2007 Blu-ray collection:95 Blu-ray reviews:2	Either Kuro is going to be superior to the Panny. The Elite does have better picture processing than the regular Pio, and it also comes with a two year warranty vs. a one year for the non-Elite.

04-07-2008, 03:48 AM	#4
HDTV1080P Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Jan 2007 Blu-ray reviews: 205	The Pioneer not only has deep blacks but it also displays 1080P/24 correctly on the screen making BLU-RAY discs look closer to film. The Panasonic model you mentioned uses a 3:2 pulldown method when 1080P/24 is inputted. There is no benefit to having a 1080P/24 input if a 3:2 pulldown process is used.

04-07-2008, 03:53 AM	#5
savage1984 Banned Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Los Angeles	Look I own the panasonic 750u. The only tv better than it is the Kuro or elite. Pioneer is better than panasonic barely. I think if price was a concern you'd be considerably satisfied with the panasonic. I am. I couldn't justify $1500 more that small of a difference. If it isn't a big deal, then by all means go with the Pioneer. Either tv will impress. Good luck

04-07-2008, 03:58 AM	#6
HDTV1080P Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Jan 2007 Blu-ray reviews: 205	Both the non elite and Elite versions are excellent displays. The Elite versions have a little deeper blacks compared to the non Elite's. Here are some reviews to look at 50 inch Elite http://ultimateavmag.com/flatpaneldisplays/308pio110fd/index.html 60 inch Elite http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2233915,00.asp Here is a review on the Pioneer Kuro PDP-6010FD http://ultimateavmag.com/flatpaneldisplays/1007piok60/

04-07-2008, 06:26 AM	#7
ManUtd Blu-ray Count Top contributor Member since:Feb 2008 Location:In my HT Home Theater Gallery:1 4K collection:15 Blu-ray collection:829 Blu-ray reviews: 5 Trading Score:5	My friend has that Panasonic, it is very good for the price. But IMO it doesn't come close to the Kuro. If you are okay with the price difference then go for the Kuro.

04-07-2008, 12:37 PM	#8
zed0118 Active Member Member since:Aug 2007	I just bought (yesterday) the Panasonic TH-50PZ85U plasma model. Man, what an awesome tv. Beautiful PQ ... The Pioneer is a nice set as well ... just a bit too expensive.

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