Great news for Blu-ray: DirecTV PPV's now come built-in with a 24 hour timebomb!

[unreal1080p]

I don't see how a move like this can do anything else but KILL DirecTV's PPV business... which is fine by me... more $$$ business for Blu-Ray

http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/04/08...ck-on-directv/

http://directv.com/DTVAPP/global/con...setId=P4540022

For owners of the VUDU set-top-box and even the Apple TV , hearing of some sort of "24-hour limitation" is nothing new. Unfortunately for DirecTV subscribers, they'll soon be understanding exactly what it means to have content guardians put the squeeze on PPV purchases which will have a 24-hour time limit imposed on them from the time of purchase beginning next week (April 15th 2008)

This will certainly prompt a great number of people who used to get their movies via HD PPV to consider and move over to the Blu-Ray side

[WriteSimply]

I wonder if this is a move by certain studios. If they were the original BD studios, we'd hear more flak about it soon. If it were not, well...


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[SilverFireshot]

Maybe I just don't understand it. Most people order PPV within 20 minutes of the movie starting and then only watch it once. Is this if they record it to DVR? I can understand that they wouldn't want people keeping their movies for $3 that's just business common sense.

Maybe somebody can explain what I'm not seeing.

[drichter33]

You are correct and I agree.

They are saying that if you purchase a movie on PPV, you have 24hrs to watch it. It automatically gets saved to the DVR upon purchase instead of starting right away.

So, it is like a very limited movie rental, just not going to the store.

Whenever I watch PPV, which is hardly ever, I always buy it at the time I am going to watch it. The ol' "Honey, there's really nothing on TV tonight. Lets take a look and see if there's something on PPV we havent seen."

I dont think it is a big deal or has any correlation to BRD sales.

[Rabidhunter]

Originally Posted by SilverFireshot

Maybe I just don't understand it. Most people order PPV within 20 minutes of the movie starting and then only watch it once. Is this if they record it to DVR? I can understand that they wouldn't want people keeping their movies for $3 that's just business common sense.

Maybe somebody can explain what I'm not seeing.

Yeah, I'm not exactly sure what I'm not seeing either, since I'm not interested in PPV. At any rate, I'd much rather be able to own the media without worrying about recording it. That way I can play it and watch it as many times as I want in whatever Blu-Ray player I want (well inside my geographical reagion that is) and it will always come out the same.

[unreal1080p]

Originally Posted by SilverFireshot

Maybe I just don't understand it. Most people order PPV within 20 minutes of the movie starting and then only watch it once. Is this if they record it to DVR? I can understand that they wouldn't want people keeping their movies for $3 that's just business common sense.

Maybe somebody can explain what I'm not seeing.

I dissagree. I hardly ever order PPV's but the last one I ordered was Sin City (HD) and it's still on my HD PVR (over 2 years) and it's not going ANYWHERE until I can get my hands on an eventual Blu-Ray version.

The ONLY way I order and HD PPV is if the movie title is nowhere near a Blu-Ray release.
At the ridiculous prices they charge, there is NO WAY I will EVER order another one again unless I'm allowed to keep it on the PVR indefinitely.

[SilverFireshot]

Originally Posted by unreal1080p

I dissagree. I hardly ever order PPV's but the last one I ordered was Sin City (HD) and it's still on my HD PVR (over 2 years) and it's not going ANYWHERE until I can get my hands on an eventual Blu-Ray version.

The ONLY way I order and HD PPV is if the movie title is nowhere near a Blu-Ray release.
At the ridiculous prices they charge, there is NO WAY I will EVER order another one again unless I'm allowed to keep it on the PVR indefinitely.

Sorry, I don't really understand what part you don't agree with. Are you disagreeing that DirecTV should keep letting people record these movies and keep them for the $4 or $5 it costs per movie? That's the same thing as a rental store letting you keep/buy the movie at rental price. I certainly wouldn't do that if I owned a rental shop.

I know that most people just order the movie and watch it once. Maybe they record it to DVR but like I said above, it doesn't make sense for the customer to be able to keep it forever. And the prices are about the same, maybe a little more than iTunes and I would chalk it up as a convenience fee (plus it saves on gas )

A company isn't going to change it's policies just because it's not available on a certain format yet. Just be patient, and if you can't wati, there is alway the DVD to hold you over.

And just for the record it's not just DirecTV, ALL the providers have to implement it.

[JTHV]

Has anyone tried the OnDemand service that DirecTV has?

I tried it all of one night and relized how painful it is to find a handful of HD content to order/download and haven't tried it since.

What were they thinking having a Music OnDemand channel and not having ANY videos or concerts in HD or even 5.1 Dolby Digital?

It's like the monkeys are actually running the zoo.

[mgonzo2u]

Why just DTV (which I own and received notice)?

Their notice stated all satellite and cable comanies alike are under the same 24 hour PPV viewing restriction.

[surfdude12]

Originally Posted by SilverFireshot

Maybe I just don't understand it. Most people order PPV within 20 minutes of the movie starting and then only watch it once. Is this if they record it to DVR? I can understand that they wouldn't want people keeping their movies for $3 that's just business common sense.

Maybe somebody can explain what I'm not seeing.

i'm with you, once i start watching a movie, 99% of time i finish it within a few hours. now where i do understand why people hate this is mothers with little kids, i can understand why they'd not be able to get the kids settled for 2-3 hours in one sitting.

[Bobby Henderson]

I wonder if/when Dish Network will follow suit with a 24 hour time bomb. One thing they definitely need to copy from DirecTV is supporting more HD channels.

On April 1, Dish Network raised the prices of their pay per view movies by $1. Movies in standard definition now cost $4.99 and movies in high definition cost $5.99.

By comparison, I can rent a Blu-ray disc for 7 days from Hastings Book Music and Video for $5.99 ($6.50 with tax included). Hollywood Video has 5 day Blu-ray rentals for $4.99, which comes out to about $5.40 with tax included.

[SilverFireshot]

Originally Posted by Bobby Henderson

I wonder if/when Dish Network will follow suit with a 24 hour time bomb. One thing they definitely need to copy from DirecTV is supporting more HD channels.

On April 1, Dish Network raised the prices of their pay per view movies by $1. Movies in standard definition now cost $4.99 and movies in high definition cost $5.99.

By comparison, I can rent a Blu-ray disc for 7 days from Hastings Book Music and Video for $5.99 ($6.50 with tax included). Hollywood Video has 5 day Blu-ray rentals for $4.99, which comes out to about $5.40 with tax included.

Yes, all the carriers have to implement the 24 hour limit. It's the studio's/right holder's decision, not the carriers'.

And I agree with you that PPV is expensive, I never purchase them because we have a Hastings right down the street (of course I rarely rent anyway). But like I said it's more for convenience and you save a little bit of gas money.

[Sonny]

My Time Warner is 4.99$ for any HD movie & you get it for 24hrs, & of course there is no way of recording it,except maybe with a VCR, but alot of good that does me I just watched "American Gangster", "Shrooms", "Sydney White(4 wife)", & "Into The Wild" . All very good & of course nun of umm are on Blu-ray . I would like a couple of those on Blu-ray for sure ('AG' & 'ITW'), but that was 20$ down the drain depending on how you look at it...

[Zipzap713]

Not shocking. Comcast has a 24 rental on their PPVs. So DirecTV having 24 hour rentals is just another passenger on the 24hr rental train.

[Bobby Henderson]

A number of my friends and coworkers have the habit of recording and stock-piling pay per view movies on their satellite dish DVRs. They've bragged to me in the past about not needing to go to a video store. Now with the higher PPV prices and 24-hour limits they may have to change their way of thinking. Hopefully that will lead to greater demand for Blu-ray rentals.

[ArkGuy]

This must really be a young crowd.

Used to, D-TV was literallly pay-per-VIEW. You watched it once so you'd better pay attention. Then when their technology improved, they'd put popular movies on multiple channels with staggered starts and you could watch any of them within a 24 hour period, as many times as you wanted. But only for 24 hours.

It was only with the introduction of their DVR's, and with them the ability to essentionaly "buy" the movie permanently, did they come to the conclusion to do this. So actually, this is merely a return to the way things sort of were before.

And I don't blame them.

[krazeyeyez]

Originally Posted by ArkGuy

This must really be a young crowd.

Used to, D-TV was literallly pay-per-VIEW. You watched it once so you'd better pay attention. Then when their technology improved, they'd put popular movies on multiple channels with staggered starts and you could watch any of them within a 24 hour period, as many times as you wanted. But only for 24 hours.

It was only with the introduction of their DVR's, and with them the ability to essentionaly "buy" the movie permanently, did they come to the conclusion to do this. So actually, this is merely a return to the way things sort of were before.

And I don't blame them.

lol i remember them days, but they couldn't stop me from firing up the old vcr and taping it.

plus i had that high tech a/b box so i could tape and watch something else at the same time.

[blu2]

Originally Posted by SilverFireshot

Yes, all the carriers have to implement the 24 hour limit. It's the studio's/right holder's decision, not the carriers'.
.

I am not sure how it works everywhere, but with Rogers in Canada, there is a VOD channel, where you can select from a large number of titles on demand, and PPV channels, which have specific movies starting at specific times.

VOD purchases can be viewed within a 24 hour period, and cannot be recorded by the PVR.

However PPV purchases can be recorded by the PVR, and are treated like any other PVR recording (e.g. have no time limit).

[Blu Haze]

Time Warner has this but its on demand meaning you buy it and watch it at the same time buddy. Sorry but the simpsons.......

[SilverFireshot]

Originally Posted by blu2

I am not sure how it works everywhere, but with Rogers in Canada, there is a VOD channel, where you can select from a large number of titles on demand, and PPV channels, which have specific movies starting at specific times.

VOD purchases can be viewed within a 24 hour period, and cannot be recorded by the PVR.

However PPV purchases can be recorded by the PVR, and are treated like any other PVR recording (e.g. have no time limit).

I guess I meant the US, I'm not sure about other countries. I'm sure you are right.