We need a new term for widescreen

[Silver Spork]

I have seen some confusion lately where the use of the term “full screen” was being used in connotation with the 16:9 ratio instead of 4:3 ratio. This means that now some people consider 16:9 to be wide screen and some consider it to be full screen, which leads to much confusion when discussing aspect ratios. I propose that we in the blu-ray community be the ones to solve this problem by renaming one of the aspect ratios.

The way ratios are currently named:

4:3 - Full Screen

16:9 - Full Screen or Wide Screen

2.35:1 - Wide Screen

I propose the following two examples

4:3 - Full Screen

16:9 - Wide Screen

2.35:1 - Uber-Wide Screen

or

4:3 - Boxy Screen

16:9 - Full Screen

2.35:1 - Wide Screen

I can’t wait to hear some of the ideas that the community here will have. Let us push forward and the confusion.

[Mr. Joshua]

Lets leave it at:

4:3 is full screen
16:9 is wide screen --- 16:9 has different aspect ratios for example;

2.41:1
2.40:1
2.35:1
1.85:1
1.66:1

These are all wide screen formats... Now my TV has a native HD option called Just Scan when applied I get even more horizontal picture. I leave my LCD set on Just Scan so I can maximize the full picture.... It does make the widescreen more narrow vertically.... But I get more picture....

[Blubaru]

I think people need to stop being ignorant

[BStecke]

2.35/2.4 is usually referred to as scope.

Originally Posted by wsciv123

Now my TV has a native HD option called Just Scan when applied I get even more horizontal picture. I leave my LCD set on Just Scan so I can maximize the full picture.... It does make the widescreen more narrow vertically.... But I get more picture....

Isn't that the same as zoom?

Edit: NM. Looks like Just Scan is another name for 1:1 pixel mapping.

[Anthony P]

I thoink Bob sounds good

[wallendo]

How about these terms:

4:3 - Academy Standard
16:9 Widescreen
>2:1 Anamorphic

(I know that blu-ray doesn't really support "anamorphic" video, but I think people understand the idea)

I don't like the term "fullscreen" and think it should be replaced by "butchered".

[BStecke]

Anamorphic wouldn't be correct. Just because it's a wider AR doesn't mean it's anamorphic.

[bajor27]

How about just

4:3
16:9
2.35:1
etc.


Sounds good to me

[quexos]

I propose that they start selling 2.40:1 TV sets instead.
It's the only way to have the exact same screen ratios as on the theaters

they could call it "TruWideScreen" just as they call high quality sound TrueHD

[Marcusarilius]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

I thoink Bob sounds good

I was thinking Robert instead. Gives the widescreen name a little more respect and class.

[cajmoyper]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

I thoink Bob sounds good

I think 'thoink' is the coolest new word I've heard in a long time.

[Marcusarilius]

Originally Posted by cajmoyper

I think 'thoink' is the coolest new word I've heard in a long time.

Its settled then. The new OFFICIAL term for "Widescreen" is now...

Thoink.

[Moefiz]

I vote we leave it the way it is because its confusing enought...every time I "thoink" about it I get a headache

[Marcusarilius]

Originally Posted by Moefiz

I vote we leave it the way it is because its confusing enought...every time I "thoink" about it I get a headache

"enought" is "enought". We will leave Widescreen alone and thats final!

[BStecke]

Originally Posted by quexos

I propose that they start selling 2.40:1 TV sets instead.
It's the only way to have the exact same screen ratios as on the theaters

they could call it "TruWideScreen" just as they call high quality sound TrueHD

Then you'd have bars on the sides of 1.85 movies, which would bring about the same argument.

[GORT]

How about
With Black Bars
Without Black Bars

[view-it-blu]

Originally Posted by Silver Spork

I have seen some confusion lately where the use of the term “full screen” was being used in connotation with the 16:9 ratio instead of 4:3 ratio. This means that now some people consider 16:9 to be wide screen and some consider it to be full screen, which leads to much confusion when discussing aspect ratios. I propose that we in the blu-ray community be the ones to solve this problem by renaming one of the aspect ratios.

The way ratios are currently named:

4:3 - Full Screen

16:9 - Full Screen or Wide Screen

2.35:1 - Wide Screen

I propose the following two examples

4:3 - Full Screen

16:9 - Wide Screen

2.35:1 - Uber-Wide Screen

or

4:3 - Boxy Screen

16:9 - Full Screen

2.35:1 - Wide Screen

I can’t wait to hear some of the ideas that the community here will have. Let us push forward and the confusion.

Theaters all ready do..

1:33 = 4:3 = Standard

1.66:1 to 1.85:1 = 16:9 = Flat

2.35:1 to 2.40:1 = 20:9 = Cinema-scope

Hope this helps.

[tommyboy81]

Is this a Black Bar thread!? No, sorry

[Marcusarilius]

Originally Posted by tommyboy81

Is this a Black Bar thread!? No, sorry

Can't have black bars without the old widescreen. Where does the grain come in, in relation to the black bar (or "Widescreen") issue?

[tommyboy81]

Originally Posted by FEP3108

How about
With Black Bars
Without Black Bars

Thats like saying. Disc or no disc?