Problems with The Descent - Blu-ray Forum

The Big Blue · 03-01-2007, 03:49 PM

Finally got my new 60GB yesterday (had a 20) and The Descent arrived in the mail also.

From looking around, the issue with this title seems to be just that it wouldn't play in some players. I popped it in last night to check it out and the disc loaded and the movie seemed to play fine. The problem I noticed is that most of the extras including the docs. were squeezed vertically and shifted up using only the top half of the screen. The deleted scenes (I checked 2 or 3) were fine.

goodstuff · 03-01-2007, 05:30 PM

You have to update the firmware on your new PS3:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...scent+squeezed

The Big Blue · 03-01-2007, 06:32 PM

Thank you for that. All I had ever read about was the disc not playing at all.

The PS3 I just got has 1.31 so it sounds like I need at least 1.32.

goodstuff · 03-01-2007, 06:40 PM

I think they're actually up to 1.5 or higher now. The disc not playing at all affected only the Sony and Pioneer standalones before the BD-J FW upgrade was available for them.

Deciazulado · 03-01-2007, 06:51 PM

If the extras are in 480, your Display has to upscale them correctly for now. So settings on the display might do with that.
Also check the DVD/BD and display settings, there's settings for 4:3 and 16:9 and letterbox and pan/scan that might affect DVD/480 output

Latest upgrade is up to 1.54 btw

samsung hd · 03-01-2007, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deciazulado

If the extras are in 480, your Display has to upscale them correctly for now. So settings on the display might do with that.
Also check the DVD/BD and display settings, there's settings for 4:3 and 16:9 and letterbox and pan/scan that might affect DVD/480 output

Latest upgrade is up to 1.54 btw

i just have a question what is the difference between letter box setting and pan/scan???

DavePS3 · 03-01-2007, 07:26 PM

Pan and scan is for regular 4x3 televisions - not 16x9 widescreen sets.

Deciazulado · 03-01-2007, 07:40 PM

Well i haven't seen the PS3 doing that in action so i don't know exactly. But if it's the equivalent of the same setting on DVD players that lets you choose bertween Pan/scan and letterboxed presentation of 16:9 coded DVDs, what this does is choose between showing the widescreen movie whole with the usual black bars, or actually pan/scan it (crop the sides) on the fly to fill the screen. I have very few DVDs that allow this , and they all are PAL dvds. One of them interestingly is an UltraPanavision movie (2.75 wide) and if you choose Pan/scan on my DVD player, you can watch it cropped to 2.06 wide

. Kind of what it would look like on a regular SuperPanavision print.

The Big Blue · 03-02-2007, 02:59 PM

Did the 1.51 update last night and all is well. Thanks again.

New question... I can't figure out the little audio icon on the menus (bottom right on the main menu). It looks like it's meant to mute the volume but does nothing as far as I can tell.

F13BluRay · 04-01-2011, 11:44 PM

Hey, digging up an old thread here but I just went to play The Descent on my 250GB Slim and it would not play. Had a VERY hard time even reading the disc and when it did I clicked on it to play, I could hear it attempting to spin. It tried to spin about 3-4 times before stopping and then the screen told me "it could not play this disc". Brought it over to me friends house who has a 80GB Fat and a 250GB Slim and it would not play on either of those. Anyone else having this problem? Any solutions? HELP!!!!!

28BlusLater · 04-01-2011, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by F13BluRay

Hey, digging up an old thread here but I just went to play The Descent on my 250GB Slim and it would not play. Had a VERY hard time even reading the disc and when it did I clicked on it to play, I could hear it attempting to spin. It tried to spin about 3-4 times before stopping and then the screen told me "it could not play this disc". Brought it over to me friends house who has a 80GB Fat and a 250GB Slim and it would not play on either of those. Anyone else having this problem? Any solutions? HELP!!!!!

If it's not working at all on these Playstations, you may have a defective disc. Unless it just so happens all of these PS3s aren't updated. Make sure you're updated to the most up-to-date software. If you are, then you have a defective disc.

Also might want to try cleaning the disc to see if that works.

HonestJohn · 04-01-2011, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by F13BluRay

Hey, digging up an old thread here but I just went to play The Descent on my 250GB Slim and it would not play. Had a VERY hard time even reading the disc and when it did I clicked on it to play, I could hear it attempting to spin. It tried to spin about 3-4 times before stopping and then the screen told me "it could not play this disc". Brought it over to me friends house who has a 80GB Fat and a 250GB Slim and it would not play on either of those. Anyone else having this problem? Any solutions? HELP!!!!!

Working just fine on our 160GB PS3 Slim, so what 28Bluslater said .....

F13BluRay · 04-01-2011, 11:59 PM

Yeah it was working on my 80GB Fat back in Sept or Oct but then I got a 250GB but never attempted to watch it again until now. I will try to clean it again but I literally put the disc right back into the case and back onto the shelf after every movie I watch ( i have a MAJOR OCD issue

) So I am quite sure its not because of dirt/scratches.

Wickerman1972 · 07-04-2014, 08:36 AM

I just bought this and it won't play. Hell, my player (Which is a Sony BDPS3200) doesn't even seem to recognize it as a blu ray. Fails at loading it and then labels it as unknown. I've looked the disc over and there isn't a blemish on it anywhere. Makes no sense to me.

jscoggins · 07-04-2014, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Wickerman1972

I just bought this and it won't play. Hell, my player (Which is a Sony BDPS3200) doesn't even seem to recognize it as a blu ray. Fails at loading it and then labels it as unknown. I've looked the disc over and there isn't a blemish on it anywhere. Makes no sense to me.

Lots of early Lionsgate releases have laser rot.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=131955

Wickerman1972 · 07-04-2014, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jscoggins

Lots of early Lionsgate releases have laser rot.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=131955

I looked up "laser rot" and that appears to be something you can see. As I mentioned before this disc is immaculate. But I'm certainly no expert on such matters. Just that pics I looked at of laser rot were obvious and this thing looks perfect. It's the correct region, my player is up to date, disc looks great on both sides, yet it won't even load. Bizarre. Oh well, guess I'll be calling Amazon.

PuppetMasterBlu · 07-04-2014, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickerman1972

I just bought this and it won't play. Hell, my player (Which is a Sony BDPS3200) doesn't even seem to recognize it as a blu ray. Fails at loading it and then labels it as unknown. I've looked the disc over and there isn't a blemish on it anywhere. Makes no sense to me.

Just get the aus version. Better transfer and it's region free.

RookieWookiee · 10-07-2019, 12:39 AM

For those who have the "Beyond High Definition" foil bands US version, I just discovered something when trying again to play this on my Xbox One this evening. As before, all the video (including the menu screen) work fine. Then when you choose to play either the rated or unrated versions, all I got was audio and no video. I brought up the pop-up menu after starting (hearing audio only, no video) and selected "The Underground Experience". This switched on the film footage + production picture-in-picture video. I was getting all of the video in this mode. Then, I brought up the pop-up menu again and switched back to the unrated version from the Underground experience and I got full video! So far, it's playing fine, looks and sounds great!

As a follow-up I stopped the video, relaunched the Blu-ray player, and once in the menu screen, I selected the Unrated version. It played without having to do any of the pop-up menu shenanigans! I can't believe I've had this Blu-ray for so long and didn't try this before. Just thought others could give it a try and see if it works for them as well. I'll probably still get the Australian version at some point, but for now, I have a disc that will FINALLY play! I'd be curious if others try it and it works :-)

RookieWookiee · 05-31-2020, 06:39 PM

It turns out that removing the disc and putting it back in the player requires one to go through the menu stuff I described in my post last October. Just thought I'd let folks know. Something about turning on "The Underground Experience" gooses the player into seeing and reading the video properly <<shrugs shoulders>>. Still curious if folks with other players can get it to work by doing this as well (see my last post).

hellmotel · 11-08-2023, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RookieWookiee

It turns out that removing the disc and putting it back in the player requires one to go through the menu stuff I described in my post last October. Just thought I'd let folks know. Something about turning on "The Underground Experience" gooses the player into seeing and reading the video properly <<shrugs shoulders>>. Still curious if folks with other players can get it to work by doing this as well (see my last post).

I was really struggling with this glitchy disc so I appreciate the info!

03-01-2007, 03:49 PM	#1
The Big Blue Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2007 Blu-ray collection:98 Blu-ray reviews:1	Problems with The Descent Finally got my new 60GB yesterday (had a 20) and The Descent arrived in the mail also. From looking around, the issue with this title seems to be just that it wouldn't play in some players. I popped it in last night to check it out and the disc loaded and the movie seemed to play fine. The problem I noticed is that most of the extras including the docs. were squeezed vertically and shifted up using only the top half of the screen. The deleted scenes (I checked 2 or 3) were fine.

05-31-2020, 06:39 PM	#19
RookieWookiee Junior Member Member since:Oct 2019	Follow up from last October It turns out that removing the disc and putting it back in the player requires one to go through the menu stuff I described in my post last October. Just thought I'd let folks know. Something about turning on "The Underground Experience" gooses the player into seeing and reading the video properly <<shrugs shoulders>>. Still curious if folks with other players can get it to work by doing this as well (see my last post).

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03-01-2007, 05:30 PM	#2
goodstuff Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Oct 2006 4K collection:509 Blu-ray collection:6535 Blu-ray reviews: 85 Trading Score:6	You have to update the firmware on your new PS3: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...scent+squeezed

03-01-2007, 06:32 PM	#3
The Big Blue Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2007 Blu-ray collection:98 Blu-ray reviews:1	Thank you for that. All I had ever read about was the disc not playing at all. The PS3 I just got has 1.31 so it sounds like I need at least 1.32.

03-01-2007, 06:40 PM	#4
goodstuff Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Oct 2006 4K collection:509 Blu-ray collection:6535 Blu-ray reviews: 85 Trading Score:6	I think they're actually up to 1.5 or higher now. The disc not playing at all affected only the Sony and Pioneer standalones before the BD-J FW upgrade was available for them.

03-01-2007, 06:51 PM	#5
Deciazulado Site Manager Top contributor Member since:Aug 2006 Location:USiberia Home Theater Gallery:6 4K collection:1160 Blu-ray collection:7047 DVD collection:4044	If the extras are in 480, your Display has to upscale them correctly for now. So settings on the display might do with that. Also check the DVD/BD and display settings, there's settings for 4:3 and 16:9 and letterbox and pan/scan that might affect DVD/480 output Latest upgrade is up to 1.54 btw

03-01-2007, 07:26 PM	#7
DavePS3 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Toronto Home Theater Gallery:56 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:1	Pan and scan is for regular 4x3 televisions - not 16x9 widescreen sets.

03-01-2007, 07:40 PM	#8
Deciazulado Site Manager Top contributor Member since:Aug 2006 Location:USiberia Home Theater Gallery:6 4K collection:1160 Blu-ray collection:7047 DVD collection:4044	Well i haven't seen the PS3 doing that in action so i don't know exactly. But if it's the equivalent of the same setting on DVD players that lets you choose bertween Pan/scan and letterboxed presentation of 16:9 coded DVDs, what this does is choose between showing the widescreen movie whole with the usual black bars, or actually pan/scan it (crop the sides) on the fly to fill the screen. I have very few DVDs that allow this , and they all are PAL dvds. One of them interestingly is an UltraPanavision movie (2.75 wide) and if you choose Pan/scan on my DVD player, you can watch it cropped to 2.06 wide . Kind of what it would look like on a regular SuperPanavision print.

03-02-2007, 02:59 PM	#9
The Big Blue Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2007 Blu-ray collection:98 Blu-ray reviews:1	Did the 1.51 update last night and all is well. Thanks again. New question... I can't figure out the little audio icon on the menus (bottom right on the main menu). It looks like it's meant to mute the volume but does nothing as far as I can tell.

04-01-2011, 11:44 PM	#10
F13BluRay Power Member Top contributor Member since:Apr 2008 Location:Massachusetts 4K collection:164 Blu-ray collection:623 DVD collection:56 MA collection:668 Digital collection:214 iTunes collection:122 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:85	Hey, digging up an old thread here but I just went to play The Descent on my 250GB Slim and it would not play. Had a VERY hard time even reading the disc and when it did I clicked on it to play, I could hear it attempting to spin. It tried to spin about 3-4 times before stopping and then the screen told me "it could not play this disc". Brought it over to me friends house who has a 80GB Fat and a 250GB Slim and it would not play on either of those. Anyone else having this problem? Any solutions? HELP!!!!!

04-01-2011, 11:59 PM	#13
F13BluRay Power Member Top contributor Member since:Apr 2008 Location:Massachusetts 4K collection:164 Blu-ray collection:623 DVD collection:56 MA collection:668 Digital collection:214 iTunes collection:122 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:85	Yeah it was working on my 80GB Fat back in Sept or Oct but then I got a 250GB but never attempted to watch it again until now. I will try to clean it again but I literally put the disc right back into the case and back onto the shelf after every movie I watch ( i have a MAJOR OCD issue ) So I am quite sure its not because of dirt/scratches.

07-04-2014, 08:36 AM	#14
Wickerman1972 Senior Member Member since:May 2014 Location:USA 4K collection:159 Blu-ray collection:777	I just bought this and it won't play. Hell, my player (Which is a Sony BDPS3200) doesn't even seem to recognize it as a blu ray. Fails at loading it and then labels it as unknown. I've looked the disc over and there isn't a blemish on it anywhere. Makes no sense to me.

10-07-2019, 12:39 AM	#18
RookieWookiee Junior Member Member since:Oct 2019	For those who have the "Beyond High Definition" foil bands US version, I just discovered something when trying again to play this on my Xbox One this evening. As before, all the video (including the menu screen) work fine. Then when you choose to play either the rated or unrated versions, all I got was audio and no video. I brought up the pop-up menu after starting (hearing audio only, no video) and selected "The Underground Experience". This switched on the film footage + production picture-in-picture video. I was getting all of the video in this mode. Then, I brought up the pop-up menu again and switched back to the unrated version from the Underground experience and I got full video! So far, it's playing fine, looks and sounds great! As a follow-up I stopped the video, relaunched the Blu-ray player, and once in the menu screen, I selected the Unrated version. It played without having to do any of the pop-up menu shenanigans! I can't believe I've had this Blu-ray for so long and didn't try this before. Just thought others could give it a try and see if it works for them as well. I'll probably still get the Australian version at some point, but for now, I have a disc that will FINALLY play! I'd be curious if others try it and it works :-)

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