TrueHD sounds quiet... - Blu-ray Forum

dj02bothell · 11-27-2008, 06:38 AM

is it me or when i watch movies with truehd like Iron Man or Iny 4, the track seems quieter than DTS HD MA. What causes this? is it just recorded at a lower volume?

saprano · 11-27-2008, 06:42 AM

It could be dialnorm or you probly have DRC turned on, turn it off.

And everybody wonders why people dont like TrueHD

BStecke · 11-27-2008, 06:51 AM

TrueHD tracks are typically recorded at lower volume than DTS, which tend to run "hot." SirTerrence, a sound insider here, if I remember correctly said that TrueHD are typically recorded at reference levels, while DTS is slightly higher. Just turn it up. It's all the same. 3 or 4 db should do it.

elks86 · 11-27-2008, 09:28 AM

some truehd tracks sounds weaker than DTS-MA and PCM coz some studios like warner compresses it to 16bit compared to the studio master 24bit. But yeah, Indy 4's truehd soundtrack is really is weak.

Turnda643 · 11-27-2008, 09:41 AM

Ok! So it wasn't just me. LOL

Jeff Kleist · 11-27-2008, 04:52 PM

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TrueHD tracks are typically recorded at lower volume than DTS, which tend to run "hot." SirTerrence, a sound insider here, if I remember correctly said that TrueHD are typically recorded at reference levels, while DTS is slightly higher. Just turn it up. It's all the same. 3 or 4 db should do it.

This is the correct answer, but I'd say 6-7db with Paramount titles.

dj02bothell · 11-27-2008, 05:52 PM

ok thanks for the replies guys. I thought i was going deaf for a moment because i was turning up the volume very high and it still sounded quiet!

borninusa · 11-27-2008, 06:02 PM

Thats interesting...

And a timely post.

I just got done watching Iron Man and was a tad disappointed w/ the soundtrack. It just seems like there needed to be more punch to it. Not that I know a whole lot about audio or anything...
Too many times I equate a low mastered soundtrack with it being sucky. I shouldnt do that.

I watched The Incredible Hulk last night and thought it kicked butt (in terms of AQ)

ryoohki · 11-27-2008, 06:42 PM

Dts track are always Louder and sometime they have more LFE. It always been like that and more is not always better. Personnally i had no problem with the Indy 4 soundtrack..

Jeff Kleist · 11-27-2008, 07:43 PM

USA make sure you have dynamic range control set to OFF in your player or receiver setup

H00D4M4N · 11-27-2008, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by borninusa

Thats interesting...

And a timely post.

I just got done watching Iron Man and was a tad disappointed w/ the soundtrack. It just seems like there needed to be more punch to it. Not that I know a whole lot about audio or anything...
Too many times I equate a low mastered soundtrack with it being sucky. I shouldnt do that.

Sounds like you have DRC turned on or another issue then, because Iron Man is one of the better sounding BRs.

borninusa · 11-27-2008, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Kleist

USA make sure you have dynamic range control set to OFF in your player or receiver setup

I will check that out..thanx

borninusa · 11-27-2008, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by H00D4M4N

Sounds like you have DRC turned on or another issue then, because Iron Man is one of the better sounding BRs.

Yeppers...gotta check that out

Thanx for the info.

Ahhh..the usefull stuff you can learn from this forum.

2 thumbs up on it..I love it

Pseudoblu · 11-27-2008, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by H00D4M4N

Sounds like you have DRC turned on or another issue then, because Iron Man is one of the better sounding BRs.

Man how I wish I agreed with that since I love the movie... and I know I am still in the minority but Iron Man is something I just have a serious problem with and the lack of ... Ooomf? can't think of another word right now.
and yes I have turned Drc off... might have improved a little but still dont think of it as one of the best...

borninusa · 11-27-2008, 08:27 PM

Okay.. was just checking out the settings on both the 550 and the reciever.
I see that the Sony has a DRC setting...but there is no 'off' on it..unless I am missing it. You can set it to 'auto'..'standard'..and 2 other ones which escape me. But there is no 'off' that I can see.

As far as the reciever...I dont see a 'night mode' on it..again...unless I am blind..and that could be the case.

Any thoughts?

I shouldnt say Iron Man sounded bad...but like the last poster said..lacks oomph.

gearyt · 11-27-2008, 08:35 PM

what receiver do you use ??

SquidPuppet · 11-27-2008, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Pseudoblu

Man how I wish I agreed with that since I love the movie... and I know I am still in the minority but Iron Man is something I just have a serious problem with and the lack of ... Ooomf? can't think of another word right now.
and yes I have turned Drc off... might have improved a little but still dont think of it as one of the best...

V for Vendetta lacks Oooomph as well. Sadly the flick has many opportunities to show off some ooomph, but does not.

borninusa · 11-27-2008, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by gearyt

what receiver do you use ??

Sony STR-DA2100ES

Johk · 11-27-2008, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by borninusa

Okay.. was just checking out the settings on both the 550 and the reciever.
I see that the Sony has a DRC setting...but there is no 'off' on it..unless I am missing it. You can set it to 'auto'..'standard'..and 2 other ones which escape me. But there is no 'off' that I can see.

As far as the reciever...I dont see a 'night mode' on it..again...unless I am blind..and that could be the case.

Any thoughts?

I shouldnt say Iron Man sounded bad...but like the last poster said..lacks oomph.

Weird...
In the manual for the STR-DA2100ES (p.42 us version), the 3 options are "STD", "MAX" or "OFF". "OFF" being the proper choice in that case...

If there is not "off" then the proper option should be something like "FULL" (for full dynamic range) or "WIDE" (for wide dynamic range).

Michael.Schinke · 11-27-2008, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SquidPuppet

V for Vendetta lacks Oooomph as well. Sadly the flick has many opportunities to show off some ooomph, but does not.

It's the mix. Both this and Indiana Jones have been noted to have mixes that are a little flat. It doesn't have anything to do with the CODEC used.

11-27-2008, 06:38 AM	#1
dj02bothell Active Member Member since:Apr 2008 Location:Los Angeles, CA Blu-ray collection:89 Blu-ray reviews:144 Trading Score:24	TrueHD sounds quiet... is it me or when i watch movies with truehd like Iron Man or Iny 4, the track seems quieter than DTS HD MA. What causes this? is it just recorded at a lower volume?

11-27-2008, 06:51 AM	#3
BStecke Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jun 2007 4K collection:182 Blu-ray collection:567 DVD collection:1 Digital collection:1 iTunes collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:6	TrueHD tracks are typically recorded at lower volume than DTS, which tend to run "hot." SirTerrence, a sound insider here, if I remember correctly said that TrueHD are typically recorded at reference levels, while DTS is slightly higher. Just turn it up. It's all the same. 3 or 4 db should do it. Last edited by BStecke; 11-27-2008 at 06:55 AM.

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11-27-2008, 06:42 AM	#2
saprano Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Bronx, New York Blu-ray collection:495 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:9	It could be dialnorm or you probly have DRC turned on, turn it off. And everybody wonders why people dont like TrueHD

11-27-2008, 09:28 AM	#4
elks86 Active Member Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Norcal 4K collection:274 Blu-ray collection:636 iTunes collection:572 Trading Score:215	some truehd tracks sounds weaker than DTS-MA and PCM coz some studios like warner compresses it to 16bit compared to the studio master 24bit. But yeah, Indy 4's truehd soundtrack is really is weak.

11-27-2008, 09:41 AM	#5
Turnda643 Special Member Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Victorville, CA Home Theater Gallery:50 4K collection:23 Blu-ray collection:773 Blu-ray reviews:2	Ok! So it wasn't just me. LOL

11-27-2008, 05:52 PM	#7
dj02bothell Active Member Member since:Apr 2008 Location:Los Angeles, CA Blu-ray collection:89 Blu-ray reviews:144 Trading Score:24	ok thanks for the replies guys. I thought i was going deaf for a moment because i was turning up the volume very high and it still sounded quiet!

11-27-2008, 06:02 PM	#8
borninusa Power Member Member since:Oct 2008 Location:Ohio Home Theater Gallery:4 Blu-ray collection:1883 Blu-ray reviews: 2 Trading Score:20	Thats interesting... And a timely post. I just got done watching Iron Man and was a tad disappointed w/ the soundtrack. It just seems like there needed to be more punch to it. Not that I know a whole lot about audio or anything... Too many times I equate a low mastered soundtrack with it being sucky. I shouldnt do that. I watched The Incredible Hulk last night and thought it kicked butt (in terms of AQ)

11-27-2008, 06:42 PM	#9
ryoohki Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2007 Home Theater Gallery:6 Blu-ray collection:6 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:5	Dts track are always Louder and sometime they have more LFE. It always been like that and more is not always better. Personnally i had no problem with the Indy 4 soundtrack..

11-27-2008, 07:43 PM	#10
Jeff Kleist The Digital Bits Member since:Jul 2008 Trading Score:1	USA make sure you have dynamic range control set to OFF in your player or receiver setup

11-27-2008, 08:27 PM	#15
borninusa Power Member Member since:Oct 2008 Location:Ohio Home Theater Gallery:4 Blu-ray collection:1883 Blu-ray reviews: 2 Trading Score:20	Okay.. was just checking out the settings on both the 550 and the reciever. I see that the Sony has a DRC setting...but there is no 'off' on it..unless I am missing it. You can set it to 'auto'..'standard'..and 2 other ones which escape me. But there is no 'off' that I can see. As far as the reciever...I dont see a 'night mode' on it..again...unless I am blind..and that could be the case. Any thoughts? I shouldnt say Iron Man sounded bad...but like the last poster said..lacks oomph.

11-27-2008, 08:35 PM	#16
gearyt Power Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Henderson, NV Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray collection:33	what receiver do you use ??

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