Amazon getting rid of hd dvd movies already?

[Dave]

Amazon getting rid of hd dvd movies already?

Look @ that chart:
Number of DVDs that can be purchased today:

As far as i can see there are about 20-25 titles removed which is 10% of all hd dvd titles they have!
WOW!
This is maybe because of the slow and ever falling sales...




http://www.eproductwars.com/dvd/

[theknub]

so numbers now are fake?

[nhaase]

Originally Posted by HDAddicts

People are really getting excessive on proving the failings of either format Like I said in a previous post, my site is nearing 2:1 on pre-order sales on HD DVD compared to Blu. We will also see a spike in HDDVD sales on the 15th its 1st anniversary. It's all relative. Just wait until 2007 nears it's end, then we can look at some real numbers.

I agree, people are getting a little over-zealous.

TheKnub, I'd just say people are putting the cart before the horse, especially since those are day-to-day graphs. Maybe there are just different distribution times for different studios, that explains the above graphs that only go back to April 4th.

[phloyd]

It would be interesting to know what the actual titles are that are no longer available and if so is that permanent or an out of stock scenario.

[nhaase]

Originally Posted by phloyd

It would be interesting to know what the actual titles are that are no longer available and if so is that permanent or an out of stock scenario.

Exactly.

[ra1024]

While I think it's too good to be true, it is interesting that this is the frist time the title count has dropped that much.

If you click the radio buttons below the graph, you can see the entire date range. For the most part it's a continuous increase but during the past few days they've seen a significant drop. I tend to think we'll see it go back up but it's still very interesting.

[TuneMan1980]

I agree both formats saw a slight dip in #'s available so I was wondering if some future releases were dropped, but any trend in dropping #'s available can't be ignored.

[Shawn]

Originally Posted by HDAddicts

People are really getting excessive on proving the failings of either format Like I said in a previous post, my site is nearing 2:1 on pre-order sales on HD DVD compared to Blu. We will also see a spike in HDDVD sales on the 15th its 1st anniversary. It's all relative. Just wait until 2007 nears it's end, then we can look at some real numbers.

I don't know about your site but can you really compare your sale figures to that of Amazon?

[pbnbcr]

Good point; Amazon.com is a beast and not many stores can compete with it. However, the graph makes it look way more dramatic than it is, but it's only day to day. If it were month to month, it might be a different story. The trend I see in retail stores, though, is a strong shift toward bluray and away from hddvd.

[Ascended_Saiyan]

Originally Posted by Shawn

I don't know about your site but can you really compare your sale figures to that of Amazon?

...or Nielsen Videoscan numbers for that matter.

Some people have to remember that a lot of HD DVD owners buy online and not in physical stores. That doesn't really hold true for Blu-ray owners. My words are re-enforced by Best Buy's, Circuit City's and other major retail store's sales numbers.

It's kind of funny. HD DVD got most of it's following online and it seems that (in the future) HD DVD might go out the same way. The circle of life.

I wonder what Timon and Pumbaa would have to say about that?

Edit: pbnbcr beat me to the point.

[tr10av]

Originally Posted by HDAddicts

People are really getting excessive on proving the failings of either format Like I said in a previous post, my site is nearing 2:1 on pre-order sales on HD DVD compared to Blu. We will also see a spike in HDDVD sales on the 15th its 1st anniversary. It's all relative. Just wait until 2007 nears it's end, then we can look at some real numbers.

I checked out your site and it seems pretty expensive, don't know how many people would pay those prices. And like it was said before you have a pretty new site that probably has very little exposure so how can you really compare to something like amazon?

[sccpu3d]

Wow..... these stats have a pretty positive look on blu-ray. Looks like blu-ray popularity has risen since January.... must be when people can actually get their hands on that ps3.

Anyone see the chart on total copies? Holy crap!
January - Approx. 8k copies
April - Approx 56k copies

In 3 months blu ray stock has multiplied 7 times over! Blu ftw

[BTBuck1]

***** is hardly a reputable representation of real world sales numbers, as of today I hadn't even heard of the site. And I've been traveling these parts and avs since before the inception of these formats.

[blitz6speed]

Originally Posted by HDAddicts

I never claimed it was, and I've stated that I just launched recently. The point was on using a 6 day graph to adequately showcase the downfall of a format.

I think what people are trying to tell you, is that you're a nobody and that your stats mean absolutely nothing in this format war. We have accurate ways of measuring sales from the net and B&M and we stick to those, as do every studio, CE company and analyst in the world. Thanks for the info tho, im sure someone out there cared!

[Ascended_Saiyan]

Originally Posted by ra1024

While I think it's too good to be true, it is interesting that this is the frist time the title count has dropped that much.

If you click the radio buttons below the graph, you can see the entire date range. For the most part it's a continuous increase but during the past few days they've seen a significant drop. I tend to think we'll see it go back up but it's still very interesting.

The thing I really find interesting is that huge difference between the amount of copies on hand for Blu-ray (over 55K) and HD DVD (over 15K). That tells me that Amazon has more faith in the Blu-ray format than HD DVD, so they want to minimize their losses later on.

[Ascended_Saiyan]

Originally Posted by HDAddicts

I never claimed it was, and I've stated that I just launched recently. The point was on using a 6 day graph to adequately showcase the downfall of a format.

I don't to seem like we are picking on you...well I'm not. I think you are just misunderstanding what we are trying to say.

It's not like HD DVD was winning the format war up to now. We are just showcasing "the continued decline" of HD DVD. The story every week is near the same sales wise (according to the Nielsen numbers). So, basically your numbers were irrelevant in the face of the large scale real world numbers we have accesss to. That means you point that HD DVD can make a comeback (or something like that) is unfounded. You have no large scale real world numbers to back that thinking up or disprove the decline of HD DVD. That's all we are trying to say.

No hard feeling, k?

[Ascended_Saiyan]

Originally Posted by HDAddicts

Heck I'm neutral, and don't know what this topic has turned into. The topic is based on the context of a 6 day sales graph. I don't know or really care that much if HD DVD loses or wins. My point has always been the relevance of this1 6 day graph. That's all I'm saying. On a side note, as far as hard feelings, why do I have emails from members in here letting me know I'm way over priced and that my site is unimpressive. Is this a taste of the Blu-ray.com community?

I would definitely say that's in bad taste. Emotion gets the best of everyone at times. They thought/think you are a HD DVD troll in neutral format clothing, but that doesn't excuse their actions. We get quite a few trolls here, so some people developed offense as their defense. I'm sure this is just an example of miscommunication at it's best.

We should all just forgive each other and move on. There are plenty of real trolls to attack out there!

For what it's worth...welcome to Blu-ray.com!

[sccpu3d]

Yep, I agree with ascended, plus the website has like 10 graphs which stretches to about 4 months each if you go there and check it out. Basically it has statistics from amazon which affirms in every way of blu-ray's success.

Just to inform you btw hdaddicts, the section where you posted your site, we've recently been getting movies for $15 US and under (amazon 50% off, and warner bros 40% off), so when we go to your site and see prices equivalent to US best buy's prices, we freak out. Basically, as a rule in the deals section, if it's not cheaper than amazon.com, its not a deal.

[Ascended_Saiyan]

Originally Posted by sccpu3d

Yep, I agree with ascended, plus the website has like 10 graphs which stretches to about 4 months each if you go there and check it out. Basically it has statistics from amazon which affirms in every way of blu-ray's success.

Just to inform you btw hdaddicts, the section where you posted your site, we've recently been getting movies for $15 US and under (amazon 50% off, and warner bros 40% off), so when we go to your site and see prices equivalent to US best buy's prices, we freak out. Basically, as a rule in the deals section, if it's not cheaper than amazon.com, its not a deal.

I think HDAddict said that the prices are in Canadian dollar values. That would mean they are less expensive than they may look at first glance (I haven't taken a look yet).

[Ascended_Saiyan]

Just took a look at the site. I liked the site layout. The prices seem to be fair. He has better pricing than Best Buy. That's no small feat. The pricing is slightly above Amazon.com which is to be expected for an independent site. I didn't check out the S&H fees, but I am pleasantly surprised. Good luck in your new business!