Grainy image (HELP!) - Blu-ray Forum

jules13 · 12-17-2008, 03:26 PM

heh guys i have got a philips 22" 3000 series with a 80 gb playstation 3 and connected with a monster hdmi cable!
there is a very grainy image on my screen when i watch blu rays (not a problem with games), it works fine on my 37" samsung but not on the 22". i have tried all of my tv and playstation settings and am at a loss.....any suggestions????????

kpkelley · 12-17-2008, 03:29 PM

Grain is inherent to film, so it is not a negative. That being said have you tried turning down the sharpness on your display? If that is set at a high level it can add noise to an image. Also, you should turn off any noise reduction or mosquito noise settings that might be enable when watching blu-ray movies.

J6P · 12-17-2008, 03:32 PM

First, let us know exactly which movies you've noticed it with. This is very important info.

SellmeyourDVD · 12-17-2008, 03:35 PM

its the monster cable that is causing all of your problems lol

Pelican170 · 12-17-2008, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J6P

First, let us know exactly which movies you've noticed it with. This is very important info.

I agree

jules13 · 12-17-2008, 03:41 PM

well i haveried the matrix and the dark knight and they show alot of grain! its defineatly not in the picture because when i try them on my high def tv downstairs it works fine

SDon1969 · 12-17-2008, 03:42 PM

So maybe it's really like digital noise you are seeing and not grain? Like signal degradation?

kpkelley · 12-17-2008, 03:43 PM

It could be either the sharpness setting or a bad hdmi cable. Have you tried using another hdmi cable perhaps from the other tv? What if you connect the ps3 via component?

Pelican170 · 12-17-2008, 03:46 PM

Id also try a different HDMI slot on the tv if it has one...

jules13 · 12-17-2008, 04:22 PM

yeah guys i tried all that its not a problem with the hdmi it works on the other tv and is one of the best you can get. Thanks but i tried the audio settings but am still stuck!

VinnAY · 12-17-2008, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jules13

yeah guys i tried all that its not a problem with the hdmi it works on the other tv and is one of the best you can get. Thanks but i tried the audio settings but am still stuck!

have you replicated the cont/bright/sharp settings to the 22" that you have on the other tv that you say is fine?

glenn-bob · 12-17-2008, 04:38 PM

i had the same problem with mine and it turned out it was a setting in the PS3 not the TV. Unfortunately I can't remember what it was. you should have a look thru your PS3 settings and make sure everything makes sense.

jules13 · 12-17-2008, 05:43 PM

heh glen-bob, can you remember caus i have try all of my ps3 settings and none have worked, you couldnt check which one it was cheers!

aramis109 · 12-17-2008, 07:25 PM

Perfect pixel + sharpness on Philips sets = grain enhancers. Turn down your sharpness and possibly turn off Perfect Pixel on the set. Also try turning down your contrast and brightness. I can't think of any one PS3 setting that would cause more grain than was inherent in the image.

jules13 · 12-17-2008, 07:35 PM

Yeah amarais i tried that, although lowering sharpness does lower the grain image it results in a blurry image and doesnt look that good. If the grain would just go away i would have a perfect picture quality with my current settings

Jayromy · 12-17-2008, 07:48 PM

It seems that you may be searchng for an image that may not exist. What I mean is the grain is inherent to most movies, so regardless of settings you are probably going to see a bit of grain in any disc that isn't a complete digital to digital transfer. Even brand new films can have grain and it is a common misconception that Blu-ray is supposed to provide and absolutely smooth, grainless image everytime. Not the case.

My advice would be to pop in a Pixar movie, if you have one, and check out the image on it. More than likely you will get the smooth image you are looking for--but again, it's because its D to D, not film. If you are still getting grain in a Pixar film, then you know you have a real problem with your gear.

Good luck!

jules13 · 12-18-2008, 11:08 AM

heh jerome yeah your absolutely right pixar movies dont show any grain as i have wall e and it is perfect, however on my bigger samsung 37" downstirs their is no grain on the image of other films so i cant be just inherent grain on the image

emacs · 12-28-2008, 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jules13

on my bigger samsung 37" downstirs their is no grain on the image of other films so i cant be just inherent grain on the image

display calibration will improve picture quality.

12-17-2008, 03:26 PM	#1
jules13 Junior Member Member since:Dec 2008	Grainy image (HELP!) heh guys i have got a philips 22" 3000 series with a 80 gb playstation 3 and connected with a monster hdmi cable! there is a very grainy image on my screen when i watch blu rays (not a problem with games), it works fine on my 37" samsung but not on the 22". i have tried all of my tv and playstation settings and am at a loss.....any suggestions????????

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12-17-2008, 03:29 PM	#2
kpkelley Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Framingham, MA 4K collection:385 Blu-ray collection:2478 Digital collection:113 Blu-ray reviews: 152	Grain is inherent to film, so it is not a negative. That being said have you tried turning down the sharpness on your display? If that is set at a high level it can add noise to an image. Also, you should turn off any noise reduction or mosquito noise settings that might be enable when watching blu-ray movies.

12-17-2008, 03:32 PM	#3
J6P Expert Member Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Aug 2007 Home Theater Gallery:117 Blu-ray collection:270	First, let us know exactly which movies you've noticed it with. This is very important info.

12-17-2008, 03:35 PM	#4
SellmeyourDVD Blu-ray Guru Member since:Apr 2008 Blu-ray collection:125 Trading Score:11	its the monster cable that is causing all of your problems lol

12-17-2008, 03:41 PM	#6
jules13 Junior Member Member since:Dec 2008	well i haveried the matrix and the dark knight and they show alot of grain! its defineatly not in the picture because when i try them on my high def tv downstairs it works fine

12-17-2008, 03:42 PM	#7
SDon1969 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Massachusetts Home Theater Gallery:32 Blu-ray collection:745 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:1	So maybe it's really like digital noise you are seeing and not grain? Like signal degradation?

12-17-2008, 03:43 PM	#8
kpkelley Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Framingham, MA 4K collection:385 Blu-ray collection:2478 Digital collection:113 Blu-ray reviews: 152	It could be either the sharpness setting or a bad hdmi cable. Have you tried using another hdmi cable perhaps from the other tv? What if you connect the ps3 via component?

12-17-2008, 03:46 PM	#9
Pelican170 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Newtown, CT 4K collection:127 Blu-ray collection:735 DVD collection:256 Trading Score:13	Id also try a different HDMI slot on the tv if it has one...

12-17-2008, 04:22 PM	#10
jules13 Junior Member Member since:Dec 2008	yeah guys i tried all that its not a problem with the hdmi it works on the other tv and is one of the best you can get. Thanks but i tried the audio settings but am still stuck!

12-17-2008, 04:38 PM	#12
glenn-bob Power Member Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Dartmouth, NS, Canada Blu-ray collection:165	i had the same problem with mine and it turned out it was a setting in the PS3 not the TV. Unfortunately I can't remember what it was. you should have a look thru your PS3 settings and make sure everything makes sense.

12-17-2008, 05:43 PM	#13
jules13 Junior Member Member since:Dec 2008	heh glen-bob, can you remember caus i have try all of my ps3 settings and none have worked, you couldnt check which one it was cheers!

12-17-2008, 07:25 PM	#14
aramis109 Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Milwaukee, WI Home Theater Gallery:10 4K collection:4 Blu-ray collection:360 Trading Score:18	Perfect pixel + sharpness on Philips sets = grain enhancers. Turn down your sharpness and possibly turn off Perfect Pixel on the set. Also try turning down your contrast and brightness. I can't think of any one PS3 setting that would cause more grain than was inherent in the image.

12-17-2008, 07:35 PM	#15
jules13 Junior Member Member since:Dec 2008	Yeah amarais i tried that, although lowering sharpness does lower the grain image it results in a blurry image and doesnt look that good. If the grain would just go away i would have a perfect picture quality with my current settings

12-17-2008, 07:48 PM	#16
Jayromy Senior Member Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Aug 2008 Home Theater Gallery:13 Blu-ray collection:64	It seems that you may be searchng for an image that may not exist. What I mean is the grain is inherent to most movies, so regardless of settings you are probably going to see a bit of grain in any disc that isn't a complete digital to digital transfer. Even brand new films can have grain and it is a common misconception that Blu-ray is supposed to provide and absolutely smooth, grainless image everytime. Not the case. My advice would be to pop in a Pixar movie, if you have one, and check out the image on it. More than likely you will get the smooth image you are looking for--but again, it's because its D to D, not film. If you are still getting grain in a Pixar film, then you know you have a real problem with your gear. Good luck!

12-18-2008, 11:08 AM	#17
jules13 Junior Member Member since:Dec 2008	heh jerome yeah your absolutely right pixar movies dont show any grain as i have wall e and it is perfect, however on my bigger samsung 37" downstirs their is no grain on the image of other films so i cant be just inherent grain on the image

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