well just because ..o'l how ironic... - Blu-ray Forum

joeorc · 04-27-2007, 01:56 AM

this is too funny.....

what's that ..ie: running on linux..not in emulation.....:smileyvery-happy:

Detailed Description and Comparisons with Other Programs

CrossOver Linux 6, Standard Edition provided by CodeWeavers

Run popular Windows software on your Linux PC

CrossOver Linux allows you to install many popular Windows

productivity applications, plugins and games in Linux, without needing

a Microsoft Operating System license. CrossOver includes an easy to use,

single click interface, which makes installing a Windows application simple and fast.

Once installed, your application integrate seamlessly with your Gnome or

KDE environment. Just click and run your application, exactly as you would

in Windows, but with the full freedom of Linux.

Mid June - CNR Plug-in for Ubuntu Users
- Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) users will be able to download
a CNR plug-in and start using CNR.com.

*
CNR Plug-in for Debian, OpenSUSE and Fedora users - In the months that follow, plug-ins will be made available for these three other popular Linux distributions.

Big Changes Ahead, Please Pardon Our Dust

by Kevin Carmony

April 25th, 2007

These past several months have been a time of great transition for Linspire. As most of you know, we have announced several significant changes, and most of these will come to life in the next 60 days, including an entirely new CNR system and new versions of both Freespire and Linspire. This is an extremely exciting time for Linspire, and one that has required some patience on all of our parts as we've made such significant changes to our infrastructure and baseline products. But, after much hard work making, kneading, and baking the bread, it's about to come out of the oven for all of us to enjoy!

Freespire OS

The new Freespire 2.0 operating system starts with Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) for its baseline, and then integrates the latest KDE, the new CNR, and the latest 3rd-party proprietary software, drivers and codecs for better hardware and multimedia support. Freespire also includes dozens of other changes to make Freespire easier to use. This new OS will be the most current and advanced desktop Linux operating system available anywhere. It will have been well worth the wait, and the infrastructure will be in place to keep Freespire current on a more timely basis moving forward. (To learn more about the new Ubuntu-based Freespire, read this Linspire Letter and review this chart.)

Freespire OS Timeline:

*
Presently - Freespire 2.0 Alpha - Freespire 2.0 is currently in Alpha testing.
*
Early May - Freespire 2.0 Beta - The new CNR plug-in and a new network control panel will be added to Freespire and move to Beta testing.
*
Early June - Freespire 2.0 Final - This release will coincide with the final launch of the new CNR.com site.

since the playstation 3 supports ubuntu ff.. this could be fun..

Amon37 · 04-27-2007, 03:58 PM

I'm confused by this post mainly because I"m a linux noob. I'm not sure what you are trying to show?

The Don · 04-27-2007, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amon37

I'm confused by this post mainly because I"m a linux noob. I'm not sure what you are trying to show?

ahaha yeah, me too...

I won't even install Linux on my PS3 because I don't want to look like a dumbass by completely bricking it..

Amon37 · 04-27-2007, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Don

ahaha yeah, me too...

I won't even install Linux on my PS3 because I don't want to look like a dumbass by completely bricking it..

ROFL!!

Iceman_II · 04-27-2007, 04:16 PM

I have installed both YD and Fedora on the PS3, and was unimpressed... maybe Sony let YD access the GPU, but to get any kind of upgrades to YD, you have to "subscribe" to them for access to their update files. Installing it is cake on the PS3, I just don't like the "feel" on the PS3 until Sony lets others access the full power of the GPU.

I am definately NOT linux averse, I run Ubuntu part time on the home machine, and I really like it.

The Don · 04-27-2007, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceman_II

I have installed both YD and Fedora on the PS3, and was unimpressed... maybe Sony let YD access the GPU, but to get any kind of upgrades to YD, you have to "subscribe" to them for access to their update files. Installing it is cake on the PS3, I just don't like the "feel" on the PS3 until Sony lets others access the full power of the GPU.

I am definately NOT linux averse, I run Ubuntu part time on the home machine, and I really like it.

I've heard that people are unimpressed with Linux...

I'm going to wait until it's worth downloading....plus I will have to get an external HDD..

Iceman_II · 04-27-2007, 04:26 PM

Whoa Big fella....

I never said I was unimpressed with Linux, I said I was unimpressed with Linux on the PS3 because Sony will not give access to drivers for the GPU

I am VERY impressed with Linux on my PC.

joeorc · 04-30-2007, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceman_II

Whoa Big fella....

I never said I was unimpressed with Linux, I said I was unimpressed with Linux on the PS3 because Sony will not give access to drivers for the GPU

I am VERY impressed with Linux on my PC.

i think the key here is you will be able to use windows programs in a Linux enviroment with out haveing to install Windows an you can just run the program straight like you would any other program.

joeorc · 04-30-2007, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amon37

I'm confused by this post mainly because I"m a linux noob. I'm not sure what you are trying to show?

look closely in the first PIC..notice that is windows IE: installed into LINUX with out haveing windows installed...you can install programs made for windows into linux...with out haveing to have Windows..just LINUX...

Iceman_II · 04-30-2007, 06:33 PM

How is this different that using wine? That has been out for a while now, and I really don't see the value add in a new PAID distribution that does what is already done in most other distros for free... What more functionality do I get that wine doesn't give me?

Iceman_II · 04-30-2007, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeorc

look closely in the first PIC..notice that is windows IE: installed into LINUX with out haveing windows installed...you can install programs made for windows into linux...with out haveing to have Windows..just LINUX...

Come to think of it, that begs another question, at whom are these adds targeted. I don't want to run IE on my windows machine (I run firefox instead), why the hell would I want to run it on the Linux box?

wolfNaz · 04-30-2007, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceman_II

Come to think of it, that begs another question, at whom are these adds targeted. I don't want to run IE on my windows machine (I run firefox instead), why the hell would I want to run it on the Linux box?

Good question... why would you?

If you're implying CrossOver is useless because they chose to use a screenshot of IE to demonstrate it... well, the functionality is not limited to IE.

Iceman_II · 04-30-2007, 07:03 PM

Not implying that the crossfire isn't useless at all. My implication was that IE is very noticiable to people who run windows and don't know any better, and by extension that the software seems to be targeted at those transitioning from windows, and not knowing that there are better and CHEAPER options than paying for a packaged distribution...

wolfNaz · 04-30-2007, 08:00 PM

Well, yes, I'd say that's exactly their target audience.

And after going through the pain and agony of setting up World of Warcraft for play via Wine I have no trouble seeing the value is a commerical distribution of Wine that officially supports the game. If this was available back then I probably would have gladly shelled out the extra cash.

The Don · 04-30-2007, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceman_II

Whoa Big fella....

I never said I was unimpressed with Linux, I said I was unimpressed with Linux on the PS3 because Sony will not give access to drivers for the GPU

I am VERY impressed with Linux on my PC.

I was talking about on the PS3...

joeorc · 04-30-2007, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceman_II

Not implying that the crossfire isn't useless at all. My implication was that IE is very noticiable to people who run windows and don't know any better, and by extension that the software seems to be targeted at those transitioning from windows, and not knowing that there are better and CHEAPER options than paying for a packaged distribution...

exactly..

04-27-2007, 01:56 AM	#1
joeorc Power Member Member since:Jan 2007 Location:GROVEPORT ,OHIO	well just because ..o'l how ironic... this is too funny..... what's that ..ie: running on linux..not in emulation.....:smileyvery-happy: Detailed Description and Comparisons with Other Programs CrossOver Linux 6, Standard Edition provided by CodeWeavers Run popular Windows software on your Linux PC CrossOver Linux allows you to install many popular Windows productivity applications, plugins and games in Linux, without needing a Microsoft Operating System license. CrossOver includes an easy to use, single click interface, which makes installing a Windows application simple and fast. Once installed, your application integrate seamlessly with your Gnome or KDE environment. Just click and run your application, exactly as you would in Windows, but with the full freedom of Linux. Mid June - CNR Plug-in for Ubuntu Users - Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) users will be able to download a CNR plug-in and start using CNR.com. * CNR Plug-in for Debian, OpenSUSE and Fedora users - In the months that follow, plug-ins will be made available for these three other popular Linux distributions. Big Changes Ahead, Please Pardon Our Dust by Kevin Carmony April 25th, 2007 These past several months have been a time of great transition for Linspire. As most of you know, we have announced several significant changes, and most of these will come to life in the next 60 days, including an entirely new CNR system and new versions of both Freespire and Linspire. This is an extremely exciting time for Linspire, and one that has required some patience on all of our parts as we've made such significant changes to our infrastructure and baseline products. But, after much hard work making, kneading, and baking the bread, it's about to come out of the oven for all of us to enjoy! Freespire OS The new Freespire 2.0 operating system starts with Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) for its baseline, and then integrates the latest KDE, the new CNR, and the latest 3rd-party proprietary software, drivers and codecs for better hardware and multimedia support. Freespire also includes dozens of other changes to make Freespire easier to use. This new OS will be the most current and advanced desktop Linux operating system available anywhere. It will have been well worth the wait, and the infrastructure will be in place to keep Freespire current on a more timely basis moving forward. (To learn more about the new Ubuntu-based Freespire, read this Linspire Letter and review this chart.) Freespire OS Timeline: * Presently - Freespire 2.0 Alpha - Freespire 2.0 is currently in Alpha testing. * Early May - Freespire 2.0 Beta - The new CNR plug-in and a new network control panel will be added to Freespire and move to Beta testing. * Early June - Freespire 2.0 Final - This release will coincide with the final launch of the new CNR.com site. since the playstation 3 supports ubuntu ff.. this could be fun..

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04-27-2007, 03:58 PM	#2
Amon37 Power Member Member since:Jan 2007 Location:USA,Arizona PSNetwork: Amon37	I'm confused by this post mainly because I"m a linux noob. I'm not sure what you are trying to show?

04-27-2007, 04:16 PM	#5
Iceman_II Expert Member Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Ft. Worth Home Theater Gallery:2 Blu-ray collection:308 Blu-ray reviews: 4	I have installed both YD and Fedora on the PS3, and was unimpressed... maybe Sony let YD access the GPU, but to get any kind of upgrades to YD, you have to "subscribe" to them for access to their update files. Installing it is cake on the PS3, I just don't like the "feel" on the PS3 until Sony lets others access the full power of the GPU. I am definately NOT linux averse, I run Ubuntu part time on the home machine, and I really like it.

04-27-2007, 04:26 PM	#7
Iceman_II Expert Member Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Ft. Worth Home Theater Gallery:2 Blu-ray collection:308 Blu-ray reviews: 4	Whoa Big fella.... I never said I was unimpressed with Linux, I said I was unimpressed with Linux on the PS3 because Sony will not give access to drivers for the GPU I am VERY impressed with Linux on my PC.

04-30-2007, 06:33 PM	#10
Iceman_II Expert Member Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Ft. Worth Home Theater Gallery:2 Blu-ray collection:308 Blu-ray reviews: 4	How is this different that using wine? That has been out for a while now, and I really don't see the value add in a new PAID distribution that does what is already done in most other distros for free... What more functionality do I get that wine doesn't give me?

04-30-2007, 07:03 PM	#13
Iceman_II Expert Member Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Ft. Worth Home Theater Gallery:2 Blu-ray collection:308 Blu-ray reviews: 4	Not implying that the crossfire isn't useless at all. My implication was that IE is very noticiable to people who run windows and don't know any better, and by extension that the software seems to be targeted at those transitioning from windows, and not knowing that there are better and CHEAPER options than paying for a packaged distribution...

04-30-2007, 08:00 PM	#14
wolfNaz Member Member since:Apr 2007	Well, yes, I'd say that's exactly their target audience. And after going through the pain and agony of setting up World of Warcraft for play via Wine I have no trouble seeing the value is a commerical distribution of Wine that officially supports the game. If this was available back then I probably would have gladly shelled out the extra cash.

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