FOX on BD-J

[mcy_999]

http://java.sun.com/javaone/sf/sessi...vafx_watch#GS1

There is a 13-min. 20th Century Fox video presentation on their BD-J plan for the future. It was done in last week's JavaOne conference. Go to Sun's General Session on Day 4 (5/11). Go to Toy Show Part 2 and watch the last 13 minutes of this video. It is a very informative presentation about their vision on BD-J.

[Shin-Ra]

Still can't see myself using the extras but it's interesting to see what's possible.

[JTK]

Originally Posted by Shin-Ra

Still can't see myself using the extras but it's interesting to see what's possible.

If nothing else, it certainly reinforces for me that Fox is quite enthusiastic about the BD format, just like Disney is.

[Zinn]

Really cool.

[dialog_gvf]

There are some that clearly feel (and possibly quite correctly) that PQ isn't enough to cause a mass market transition from DVD. A new value added must exist to entice people over to a new format.

Whether this is IME and extras remains to be seen. But, once again, the format war becomes a battle between the simple offerings of HD DVD available now, versus the potential offered by BD-J in the future.

Clearly Fox and Disney are sold on the power and potential of BD-J.

Thanks for the post. Really cool.

Gary

[ps3andlovinit]

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

There are some that clearly feel (and possibly quite correctly) that PQ isn't enough to cause a mass market transition from DVD. A new value added must exist to entice people over to a new format.

Whether this is IME and extras remains to be seen. But, once again, the format war becomes a battle between the simple offerings of HD DVD available now, versus the potential offered by BD-J in the future.

Clearly Fox and Disney are sold on the power and potential of BD-J.

Thanks for the post. Really cool.

Gary

I'm not up to speed on what the features of each format offer..but it was interesting to see that "evil" Sony is supporting a format that "allows" other content producers to build games into their movie experiences - that potentially compete with the PS3 in some respects for their gaming dollar.

Btw does HD-DVD allow this level of interaction or does M$ want to make sure you must buy a 360 to get any type of gaming features or the interactivite stuff demonstrated by BD Live?

Just based on their past practices I would suspect the HD-DVD experience to be limited intentionally.

Nevertheless it was a good demonstration..it's never been high on my list but I did find a few things piqued my interest..much to my surprise.

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by ps3andlovinit

I'm not up to speed on what the features of each format offer..but it was interesting to see that "evil" Sony is supporting a format that "allows" other content producers to build games into their movie experiences - that potentially compete with the PS3 in some respects for their gaming dollar.

Sony would probably see it as opportunity. Consumers that who would get excited about gaming value-added, would probably consider a PS/3 as the home theater device. So, in the end, they benefit more from the capability than they lose by the competition.

Originally Posted by ps3andlovinit

Btw does HD-DVD allow this level of interaction or does M$ want to make sure you must buy a 360 to get any type of gaming features or the interactivite stuff demonstrated by BD Live?

HDi is like a browser concept. You have an XML for defining pages of content, and have behaviours and a scripting language to make it dynamic. But you need to power of a browser engine behind the scenes. At this point no SoC has the power required to render HDi. HDi needs the equivalent of, I believe, a 850Mhz processor, which would be rather significant amount of transistors for a SoC, even nowdays. This is accomplished on full HD DVD players by including an Intel processor.

BD-J can support levels of computation power. While HDi seems to be an all or nothing approach.

Lest us not forget that one of Microsoft's goals is to get WinCE into players. And to fight the expansion of Java. The Broadcom/Microsoft platform will undoubtedly be WinCE based.

Gary

[WriteSimply]

Originally Posted by ps3andlovinit

Btw does HD-DVD allow this level of interaction or does M$ want to make sure you must buy a 360 to get any type of gaming features or the interactivite stuff demonstrated by BD Live?

HD-DVD has HDi but it has limited programming capability. It's limitation is what makes it easy to program now and why HDi and IME is out.

BD-J is like Java. I'm not a programmer but I bet it can more than create HD graphics, playback HD movies/clips and audio.


fuad

[HDJK]

Originally Posted by JTK

If nothing else, it certainly reinforces for me that Fox is quite enthusiastic about the BD format, just like Disney is.

I'll say, tens of millions of BD players in the next couple of years and 750 movies and TV shows a year in the US alone They seem really confident about Blu-ray

I know, it's just hypothetical, but still nice to hear

[ps3andlovinit]

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

Sony would probably see it as opportunity. Consumers that who would get excited about gaming value-added, would probably consider a PS/3 as the home theater device. So, in the end, they benefit more from the capability than they lose by the competition.

Agree - wanted to raise the point as some are always trying to play the "proprietary/exclusionary" card against them despite Java, BDA, Linux, PS3 Broswer. Far more open and consumer friendly than the alternative.

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

HDi is like a browser concept. You have an XML for defining pages of content, and have behaviours and a scripting language to make it dynamic. But you need to power of a browser engine behind the scenes. At this point no SoC has the power required to render HDi. HDi needs the equivalent of, I believe, a 850Mhz processor, which would be rather significant amount of transistors for a SoC, even nowdays. This is accomplished on full HD DVD players by including an Intel processor.

BD-J can support levels of computation power. While HDi seems to be an all or nothing approach.

Lest us not forget that one of Microsoft's goals is to get WinCE into players. And to fight the expansion of Java. The Broadcom/Microsoft platform will undoubtedly be WinCE based.

Gary

Thanks. All things I didn't know.

[Dave]

This is awesome! It puts HDi in its small pocket!

Go Blu-ray, smack hd-dud`s ass!!!


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