New gaming system killer!! - Blu-ray Forum

yankees3 · 03-25-2009, 08:18 PM

Anyone heard of the new gaming system that suposse to kill Wii, Xbox, PS3! It's called the OnLive. Found this using my cell so cant post the link...just google OnLive gaming system...has potential!!

jkwest · 03-25-2009, 08:21 PM

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=92452
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=92318
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=92263

Another_Dude · 03-25-2009, 08:26 PM

Just googled.

I'll pass.

STARSCREAM · 03-25-2009, 08:32 PM

Good grief, how many new threads are there gonna be on this today!

It has potential, just need to see how it all pans out.

Oddiophile · 03-25-2009, 08:37 PM

http://www.gametrailers.com/game/11029.html

What I want to know is how much data this thing is moving in one hour of gaming. Most if not all ISP's have a cap on how much data you can download (it's in the fine print of your contract) go over the cap and they charge you $XXX.XX a MB or GB your over.

Pelican170 · 03-25-2009, 08:41 PM

im also curious about saving games and such... i didnt see the article on yahoo mention that...

UKTruBlu · 03-25-2009, 08:42 PM

Pass!!!

rlf3911 · 03-25-2009, 09:08 PM

I think you have it backwards Oddiophile, most do not have caps from my experience. Now with the increase in demand, we are seeing it more and more. The local cable company caps all of it's home services, unless you pay like the $20 extra a month for unlimited. That's why we went with slower, but uncapped DSL.

One of the posts says that like 71% of the homes has 2mbps internet... I dont think so lol, lots of people are still using dial up. Maybe 71% of homes with broadband internet. Ours is 320kbps/240kbps, with low latency, so I have no issues at all with gaming on PC or PS3, but I'm sure it would be lacking this new system.

dereksworl · 03-25-2009, 10:04 PM

This is why i hate bias @ss yahoo! I guess PS3 isn't even a competitor

Quote:

New threat to Wii, Xbox
A gadget called OnLive is causing quite a stir in the gaming community. » Why competitors should be nervous

Find more info on OnLiveNew upgrade causes Xbox failure?

Stoudman · 03-25-2009, 10:27 PM

You know, it seems like every now and then some random company nobody has ever heard of before decides to try and make a video game console.

....and eeeeevery time they do, they always brand it as the console that will DESTROY all the others!

....and eeeeeevery time they are dead wrong

history dictates this will happen...again...

I'll side with history....especially since it sounds way more like a gimmick than anything else.

"Imagine you could stream top end games to your TV without buying a console!"

.....

1. So how much would we have to pay per play? Because I guarantee there would probably be no actual ownership of any of the games. You'd probably have to pay per play until you beat the game, and when you did....it's not a part of your collection or anything, it's just gone. Awesome. You know, there is a point to actually OWNING a PHYSICAL COPY of something. That's one of the reasons Blu-ray is so popular.

2. How do they plan on convincing the companies that make these top end games to develop for them? Wouldn't that just take way too much time and effort and force them to release games so much later than consoles that nobody would give a damn about their little "toy"?

"Imagine".....but reality is so much more fun!

Petra_Kalbrain · 03-25-2009, 10:56 PM

I can see this being the next system that Xbots decide to use. Hey, at least they won't be supporting Micro$haft anymore.

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Originally Posted by Stoudman

1. So how much would we have to pay per play? Because I guarantee there would probably be no actual ownership of any of the games. You'd probably have to pay per play until you beat the game, and when you did....it's not a part of your collection or anything, it's just gone. Awesome. You know, there is a point to actually OWNING a PHYSICAL COPY of something. That's one of the reasons Blu-ray is so popular.

I concur!

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Originally Posted by Stoudman

2. How do they plan on convincing the companies that make these top end games to develop for them? Wouldn't that just take way too much time and effort and force them to release games so much later than consoles that nobody would give a damn about their little "toy"?

This is why I think Xbots will fall for this system. Aside from a ridiculous purchase price, this system will obviously charge you a monthly/yearly fee much like XBox Live. And, they will fall for it as they are already use to paying that service fee. And, you can bet that the fee itself will be quite unreasonable as that is the only place where the game developers will get their money for creating content for the community.

Anthony P · 03-25-2009, 11:05 PM

WOW imagine that, someone just invented playing games on a PC. What a novel idea.

Beta Man · 03-25-2009, 11:37 PM

Seems like a lot of people (in this thread, and the numerous other ones) seem to be against the idea based on the fact that they like their PS3 ???????? Wouldn't you welcome another system? Shouldn't you try it before dismissing it? If you like games...... more is better right?

I don't have a need for a gaming system, but if I did, I'd at least try a new one

PH3AR · 03-26-2009, 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beta Man

Seems like a lot of people (in this thread, and the numerous other ones) seem to be against the idea based on the fact that they like their PS3 ???????? Wouldn't you welcome another system? Shouldn't you try it before dismissing it? If you like games...... more is better right?

I don't have a need for a gaming system, but if I did, I'd at least try a new one

+1 i love my ps3 but i would gladly try out a new system like this one "if" its true

abercrombie9701 · 03-26-2009, 12:10 AM

how would they get the game devolper on board if their not charging 60 bucks a game. ill pass

Sonny · 03-26-2009, 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beta Man

Seems like a lot of people (in this thread, and the numerous other ones) seem to be against the idea based on the fact that they like their PS3 ???????? Wouldn't you welcome another system? Shouldn't you try it before dismissing it? If you like games...... more is better right?

I don't have a need for a gaming system, but if I did, I'd at least try a new one

No thanks Beta.

We are close minded when it comes to crap. LMFAO!

Petra_Kalbrain · 03-26-2009, 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beta Man

Seems like a lot of people (in this thread, and the numerous other ones) seem to be against the idea based on the fact that they like their PS3 ???????? Wouldn't you welcome another system? Shouldn't you try it before dismissing it? If you like games...... more is better right?

I don't have a need for a gaming system, but if I did, I'd at least try a new one

If it was a new platform, then I would definitely give it a try. This is trying to take game ownership completely out of the equation!!!

Marquoz · 03-26-2009, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beta Man

Seems like a lot of people (in this thread, and the numerous other ones) seem to be against the idea based on the fact that they like their PS3 ???????? Wouldn't you welcome another system? Shouldn't you try it before dismissing it? If you like games...... more is better right?

I don't have a need for a gaming system, but if I did, I'd at least try a new one

My only issue with it is it's not really a new gaming system, it is designed to replace other ones. It will allow somebody with a lower rate computer to be able to play games that are spec'ed out higher then what they have. It won't have any exclusive content, it's just servers that run existing games.

Now the one major downside that I've seen. They already stated that they are not going to be a "netflix/gamefly" and have older games. Once the game comes off the server that's it, you can't play it via OnLive anymore. For people who horde their games and still play games from 10 years ago this is a major drawback for the system.

The upside to this is that there will be a lot less cheating since the game will be run on remote servers versus somebodys home system, so it's harder to have cheat programs in place. It will also reduce piracy as it will be harder to download a game to a remote server that you have no control over. It will also open up the gates for a lot of people that want to play these games but just can't afford the bleeding edge gaming rigs required for halfway decent gameplay.

I think it will be a great niche product, it just won't really fill any needs of mine, so I will pass on it. I would rather have my own system at home running a game that I own then be forced to pick off a probably limited supply of games.

Anthony P · 03-26-2009, 12:56 AM

Quote:

Seems like a lot of people (in this thread, and the numerous other ones) seem to be against the idea based on the fact that they like their PS3 ???????? Wouldn't you welcome another system? Shouldn't you try it before dismissing it? If you like games...... more is better right?

I don't have a need for a gaming system, but if I did, I'd at least try a new one

I don't know if you are missing something or I, or maybe the endgate article is not verry good. But it is not a system

http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/24/o...-console-star/

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What if you could stream games, any game, over a decent broadband connection to your PC or Atom-based netbook

the issue with PCs was always that you don't have the right interface, so how does DL video of the game you are playing helps out with that? Yes if I understand it correctly the game is playing out on the server and screen captures are coming to your PC, so any moderate PC will be able to play the most convoluted game, but my guess is that people that like PC gaming might like it but people that like consoles will not change.

Jeff Kleist · 03-26-2009, 01:14 AM

People that like PC gaming will hate it

PC gaming is defintately based on penis size to a large extent. Tricking out your rig, how many pixels you can push and such.

This is for JoeSixPack, and frankly, I don't see how it can possibly work, especially for any game with multiplayer. 1ms latency on 4mbps or so 720p video? In their dreams, especially as more and more people connect via wifi which will in and of itself adds 3-4ms to ping.

Frankly any game of any complexity will likely be unplayable in a real world situtation, especially mirror's edge that relies so much on timing. I'll bet you they'll be running a custom versino with a much much larger margin of error for starters.

03-25-2009, 08:18 PM	#1
yankees3 Active Member Member since:Jun 2008 Location:Austin, TX	New gaming system killer!! Anyone heard of the new gaming system that suposse to kill Wii, Xbox, PS3! It's called the OnLive. Found this using my cell so cant post the link...just google OnLive gaming system...has potential!!

03-25-2009, 08:37 PM	#5
Oddiophile Expert Member Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Phoenix, AZ 4K collection:1034 Blu-ray collection:1435 Trading Score:6	http://www.gametrailers.com/game/11029.html What I want to know is how much data this thing is moving in one hour of gaming. Most if not all ISP's have a cap on how much data you can download (it's in the fine print of your contract) go over the cap and they charge you $XXX.XX a MB or GB your over. Last edited by Oddiophile; 03-25-2009 at 08:54 PM.

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03-25-2009, 08:21 PM	#2
jkwest Off-Topic King Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Northern California PSN Id: jkwest5 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:20	https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=92452 https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=92318 https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=92263

03-25-2009, 08:26 PM	#3
Another_Dude Blu-ray Guru Member since:Dec 2008 Blu-ray collection:191 Blu-ray reviews:8	Just googled. I'll pass.

03-25-2009, 08:32 PM	#4
STARSCREAM Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Dagobah Blu-ray collection:148 Trading Score:67	Good grief, how many new threads are there gonna be on this today! It has potential, just need to see how it all pans out.

03-25-2009, 08:41 PM	#6
Pelican170 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Newtown, CT 4K collection:127 Blu-ray collection:735 DVD collection:256 Trading Score:13	im also curious about saving games and such... i didnt see the article on yahoo mention that...

03-25-2009, 08:42 PM	#7
UKTruBlu Senior Member Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Surrey, England Home Theater Gallery:9 Blu-ray collection:170 Blu-ray reviews:1	Pass!!!

03-25-2009, 09:08 PM	#8
rlf3911 Senior Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Mansfield, TX Blu-ray collection:251 Trading Score:6	I think you have it backwards Oddiophile, most do not have caps from my experience. Now with the increase in demand, we are seeing it more and more. The local cable company caps all of it's home services, unless you pay like the $20 extra a month for unlimited. That's why we went with slower, but uncapped DSL. One of the posts says that like 71% of the homes has 2mbps internet... I dont think so lol, lots of people are still using dial up. Maybe 71% of homes with broadband internet. Ours is 320kbps/240kbps, with low latency, so I have no issues at all with gaming on PC or PS3, but I'm sure it would be lacking this new system.

03-25-2009, 10:27 PM	#10
Stoudman Active Member Member since:Jan 2009 Blu-ray collection:65	You know, it seems like every now and then some random company nobody has ever heard of before decides to try and make a video game console. ....and eeeeevery time they do, they always brand it as the console that will DESTROY all the others! ....and eeeeeevery time they are dead wrong history dictates this will happen...again... I'll side with history....especially since it sounds way more like a gimmick than anything else. "Imagine you could stream top end games to your TV without buying a console!" ..... 1. So how much would we have to pay per play? Because I guarantee there would probably be no actual ownership of any of the games. You'd probably have to pay per play until you beat the game, and when you did....it's not a part of your collection or anything, it's just gone. Awesome. You know, there is a point to actually OWNING a PHYSICAL COPY of something. That's one of the reasons Blu-ray is so popular. 2. How do they plan on convincing the companies that make these top end games to develop for them? Wouldn't that just take way too much time and effort and force them to release games so much later than consoles that nobody would give a damn about their little "toy"? "Imagine".....but reality is so much more fun!

03-25-2009, 11:05 PM	#12
Anthony P Blu-ray Count Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Montreal, Canada	WOW imagine that, someone just invented playing games on a PC. What a novel idea.

03-25-2009, 11:37 PM	#13
Beta Man Moderator Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Juuuuuuuust A Bit Outside.... Home Theater Gallery:4 Blu-ray collection:268 Blu-ray reviews: 18 Trading Score:25	Seems like a lot of people (in this thread, and the numerous other ones) seem to be against the idea based on the fact that they like their PS3 ???????? Wouldn't you welcome another system? Shouldn't you try it before dismissing it? If you like games...... more is better right? I don't have a need for a gaming system, but if I did, I'd at least try a new one

03-26-2009, 12:10 AM	#15
abercrombie9701 Member Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Ma Blu-ray collection:52 Trading Score:4	how would they get the game devolper on board if their not charging 60 bucks a game. ill pass

03-26-2009, 01:14 AM	#20
Jeff Kleist The Digital Bits Member since:Jul 2008 Trading Score:1	People that like PC gaming will hate it PC gaming is defintately based on penis size to a large extent. Tricking out your rig, how many pixels you can push and such. This is for JoeSixPack, and frankly, I don't see how it can possibly work, especially for any game with multiplayer. 1ms latency on 4mbps or so 720p video? In their dreams, especially as more and more people connect via wifi which will in and of itself adds 3-4ms to ping. Frankly any game of any complexity will likely be unplayable in a real world situtation, especially mirror's edge that relies so much on timing. I'll bet you they'll be running a custom versino with a much much larger margin of error for starters.

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