Goldfinger weird picture issue - Blu-ray Forum

benzgrl · 04-14-2009, 08:10 PM

Just wondering if anyone noticed right in the beginning of the movie when Bond takes off the bird hat disguise he has on when coming out of the water, it looks like the film fasts forwards - just during the moment he takes that bird hat off up until he shoots the rope gun to climb the wall.

It's a very short moment, but wondering if anyone else noticed or if it's just my disc or my eyes??

Sussudio · 04-14-2009, 08:21 PM

i dont own it, however, i do own some other "older" blus that skip a little...bonnie and clyde was one of them (in 1 scene she walks to the car and suddenly appears AT the car

).

your problem is most likely a result of the film's edit and not a problem with your disc

but since i dont own it, someone else will obviously have to confirm this for me.

davidthebruce79 · 04-14-2009, 08:23 PM

it was like this on the vhs also. there are actually several times in sveral of the old films films where this happens. i cant really explain only confirm that it is there and it has always been there to my knowledge.

benricci · 04-14-2009, 08:48 PM

That moment has always been artificially sped up. Don't know why, but it's not a disc issue.

alphadec · 04-14-2009, 08:51 PM

If any of you did watch the "extras" with master editor "peter Hunt then he talks about a trick he uses alot in the bond flicks what he call "speed up" the film in some scene to highlight the action.

greatfoxmusic · 04-17-2009, 03:29 AM

Yeah but did you see the jump cut when a car rounds a corner and the car jumps down the street? It's near the end in the USA portion. I don't have the time here but it was amusing.

juanell · 04-17-2009, 04:42 AM

This was a technique used in several 60s' and 70s' films. Omega man and On her majestys secret service come to mind.

Gold Ranger · 02-04-2014, 07:47 AM

There some spots where it happens andd it's NOT an "Action Shot"The 8th (roughly) one was as Odd Job opens the Car door as Bond's Crashed Aston Martin...
It's really distracting...
Yes, I know, this is an old thread. But as I've never seen this movie before, I had no idea about this.
I thought that this was another Lowry mess up...
I hate Lowry "restorations"
But as pointed out by others, that's how it was filmed...
*blech

baheidstu · 02-04-2014, 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KaineKinetic

There some spots where it happens andd it's NOT an "Action Shot"The 8th (roughly) one was as Odd Job opens the Car door as Bond's Crashed Aston Martin...
It's really distracting...
Yes, I know, this is an old thread. But as I've never seen this movie before, I had no idea about this.
I thought that this was another Lowry mess up...
I hate Lowry "restorations"
But as pointed out by others, that's how it was filmed...
*blech

Lowry had nothing to do with that, the scene where Bond falls out of the Aston Martin was sped up slightly to make it more dramatic, so while it's not an "action" shot, there is still action. This is how the film has always been.

MrHT · 02-04-2014, 05:11 PM

Wow, has the OP been wondering about this issue for 5 years now?

klauswhereareyou · 02-04-2014, 05:13 PM

This is just how it is, nothing to do with your disc, player etc...as far as I know Goldfinger has always had that speed up during that scene. Actually a lot of the Bond movies from that time use speed up in certain scenes (especially the fight scenes in On Her Majesty's Secret Service), and choppy (elliptical) editing.

Bucky · 02-04-2014, 05:18 PM

That is a classic Peter Hunt edit. The man was a master.

Atreyu · 02-04-2014, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by benzgrl

Just wondering if anyone noticed right in the beginning of the movie when Bond takes off the bird hat disguise he has on when coming out of the water, it looks like the film fasts forwards - just during the moment he takes that bird hat off up until he shoots the rope gun to climb the wall.

It's a very short moment, but wondering if anyone else noticed or if it's just my disc or my eyes??

Yes I've noticed it too, I tused to think I was the only one, lol.

Gold Ranger · 02-04-2014, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baheidstu

Lowry had nothing to do with that, the scene where Bond falls out of the Aston Martin was sped up slightly to make it more dramatic, so while it's not an "action" shot, there is still action. This is how the film has always been.

I know Lowry didn't do that, I thought i said that...

I just mean that these films could look better if it were done by a competent company!

baheidstu · 02-04-2014, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KaineKinetic

I know Lowry didn't do that, I thought i said that...

I just mean that these films could look better if it were done by a competent company!

You kinda did, but I was just confirming it.

I think for the most part they look fantastic on blu, although there is some contrast boosting on a few titles, like OHMSS.

Gold Ranger · 02-04-2014, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baheidstu

You kinda did, but I was just confirming it.

I think for the most part they look fantastic on blu, although there is some contrast boosting on a few titles, like OHMSS.

Oh, ok.

chip75 · 02-04-2014, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klauswhereareyou

Actually a lot of the Bond movies from that time use speed up in certain scenes (especially the fight scenes in On Her Majesty's Secret Service), and choppy (elliptical) editing.

I think there's a few moments in Thunderball during the boat-chase where they use speed-up. It always looks horrendous to me!

baheidstu · 02-04-2014, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chip75

I think there's a few moments in Thunderball during the boat-chase where they use speed-up. It always looks horrendous to me!

Yeah, with modern eyes it looks awkward, but the alternative was to leave it to run in "real time" and it would have looked lumberingly slow. The 60s Bonds also used a lot of back projection which can look awkward at times too, including during the fight on the bridge of the Disco Volante.

Dex Robinson · 02-04-2014, 08:47 PM

British directors and editors did that nonsense all the time in the 1950's and 60's and it looked awful. More annoying is that they thought they were being clever.

There is similar stutter-cutting in a fight scene in THE DAY THE EARTH CAUGHT FIRE. When I saw it, I was convinced the disc was defective. I played the scene muliple times to see if I could get it to play properly.

Finally, I put on the commentary track and heard the director brag about how clever he was by cutting out frames to speed up the action.

Moron.

baheidstu · 02-04-2014, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dex Robinson

British directors and editors did that nonsense all the time in the 1950's and 60's and it looked awful. More annoying is that they thought they were being clever.

There is similar stutter-cutting in a fight scene in THE DAY THE EARTH CAUGHT FIRE. When I saw it, I was convinced the disc was defective. I played the scene muliple times to see if I could get it to play properly.

Finally, I put on the commentary track and heard the director brag about how clever he was by cutting out frames to speed up the action.

Moron.

A bit harsh, don't you think? It was simply a technique that was used that is archaic today.

04-14-2009, 08:10 PM	#1
benzgrl Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jun 2008 Location:Las Vegas, NV, USA Blu-ray collection:235 Blu-ray reviews: 2 Trading Score:101	Goldfinger weird picture issue Just wondering if anyone noticed right in the beginning of the movie when Bond takes off the bird hat disguise he has on when coming out of the water, it looks like the film fasts forwards - just during the moment he takes that bird hat off up until he shoots the rope gun to climb the wall. It's a very short moment, but wondering if anyone else noticed or if it's just my disc or my eyes??

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04-14-2009, 08:21 PM	#2
Sussudio Blu-ray Champion Member since:Sep 2008 Blu-ray collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:11	i dont own it, however, i do own some other "older" blus that skip a little...bonnie and clyde was one of them (in 1 scene she walks to the car and suddenly appears AT the car ). your problem is most likely a result of the film's edit and not a problem with your disc but since i dont own it, someone else will obviously have to confirm this for me.

04-14-2009, 08:23 PM	#3
davidthebruce79 Member Member since:Jul 2007	it was like this on the vhs also. there are actually several times in sveral of the old films films where this happens. i cant really explain only confirm that it is there and it has always been there to my knowledge.

04-14-2009, 08:48 PM	#4
benricci Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Sep 2008 Blu-ray reviews:1	That moment has always been artificially sped up. Don't know why, but it's not a disc issue.

04-14-2009, 08:51 PM	#5
alphadec Expert Member Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Norway Home Theater Gallery:6 4K collection:21 Blu-ray collection:672 DVD collection:23 Prime collection:2 Blu-ray reviews:44	If any of you did watch the "extras" with master editor "peter Hunt then he talks about a trick he uses alot in the bond flicks what he call "speed up" the film in some scene to highlight the action.

04-17-2009, 03:29 AM	#6
greatfoxmusic Active Member Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Philadelpha, PA Home Theater Gallery:10 Trading Score:9	Yeah but did you see the jump cut when a car rounds a corner and the car jumps down the street? It's near the end in the USA portion. I don't have the time here but it was amusing.

04-17-2009, 04:42 AM	#7
juanell Member Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Lexington, ky 4K collection:10 Blu-ray collection:162 DVD collection:2	This was a technique used in several 60s' and 70s' films. Omega man and On her majestys secret service come to mind.

02-04-2014, 07:47 AM	#8
Gold Ranger Banned Member since:Jan 2011 Location:NY, TX, CA, IL, HI, NC, PA, WV, MO 4K collection:23 Blu-ray collection:65 DVD collection:2 Trading Score:133	There some spots where it happens andd it's NOT an "Action Shot"The 8th (roughly) one was as Odd Job opens the Car door as Bond's Crashed Aston Martin... It's really distracting... Yes, I know, this is an old thread. But as I've never seen this movie before, I had no idea about this. I thought that this was another Lowry mess up... I hate Lowry "restorations" But as pointed out by others, that's how it was filmed... *blech

02-04-2014, 05:11 PM	#10
MrHT Blu-ray Champion Member since:Feb 2010 4K collection:85 Blu-ray collection:288 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:1	Wow, has the OP been wondering about this issue for 5 years now?

02-04-2014, 05:13 PM	#11
klauswhereareyou Blu-ray Knight Member since:Mar 2012 4K collection:232 Blu-ray collection:2199 Digital collection:22 Prime collection:1	This is just how it is, nothing to do with your disc, player etc...as far as I know Goldfinger has always had that speed up during that scene. Actually a lot of the Bond movies from that time use speed up in certain scenes (especially the fight scenes in On Her Majesty's Secret Service), and choppy (elliptical) editing.

02-04-2014, 05:18 PM	#12
Bucky Special Member Member since:Oct 2008 Location:Maryland Blu-ray collection:626 DVD collection:2	That is a classic Peter Hunt edit. The man was a master.

02-04-2014, 08:47 PM	#19
Dex Robinson Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2012 Location:Winnipeg, Canada Trading Score:1	British directors and editors did that nonsense all the time in the 1950's and 60's and it looked awful. More annoying is that they thought they were being clever. There is similar stutter-cutting in a fight scene in THE DAY THE EARTH CAUGHT FIRE. When I saw it, I was convinced the disc was defective. I played the scene muliple times to see if I could get it to play properly. Finally, I put on the commentary track and heard the director brag about how clever he was by cutting out frames to speed up the action. Moron.

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