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Old 01-01-2010, 06:50 AM   #1
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Hey, guys. I am considering purchasing the Yamaha RX-V765 in the near future and decided to look through the manual just to get an idea of the functions of the receiver.

I was looking through the part where it was describing how to manually set the speakers to LARGE or SMALL. The manual states that if you set it to SMALL the low frequency components of the channels are output from a subwoofer. My question is: What is the low frequency cutoff? Can you manually set the cutoff frequency in the receiver? The manual seems really vague... unless I am just missing the information right in front of me.

I'm used to using my Onkyo which lets me choose the frequency cutoff for each individual speaker instead of just choosing a LARGE or SMALL speaker configuration.

Also, what is considered a good deal on this receiver? Currently Newegg.com is selling it for $600.

Any help is greatly appreciated.
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Old 01-01-2010, 06:58 AM   #2
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On the Yamaha you can choose a cutoff, but it is for all of the speakers. Not individual speakers, within the small configuration. The large will set your speakers to full range, which is not optimal for a HT setting.

As far as deals, I am not sure. I think if you can get last years 663 for $350 right now, and can deal with the two HDMI inputs...do it.

I am assuming you are upgrading from the Onkyo for the preouts? If this is the case I would consider it a good upgrade.
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Old 01-01-2010, 08:09 AM   #3
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JasonR, you are exactly right. I am upgrading for the pre-outs and the 12v trigger. I was looking at grabbing the Onkyo 807 but it really is a bit higher than I want to spend. Also, the funny thing with the 807 is that the 12v trigger is only for Zone 2 and Zone 3. It would be useless for me since I'd like to hook up the receiver to...... say an Emotiva UPA-7. I don't use Zone 2 or Zone 3.

As for the HDMI inputs, I'd love to have the four just to have them. I suppose I can deal with two. I searched around this forum and saw some were able to purchase the Yamaha 765 for just under $500. I suppose I can wait around and see what happens.

And to respond to your post, my speakers are "okay" and I currently have them all set at 80Hz and it sounds sweet so only being able to set the crossover for all of them at once is fine.

Thanks for your reply, JasonR. It is appreciated!
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Old 01-01-2010, 08:22 AM   #4
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If the 765 has the outputs you are looking for, an amp is in your future, and the price is right. Do it! A great upgrade as far as I am concerned!

The Yamaha makes for a nice processor, and I think you will be very happy!

If you are looking at the UPA-7, I would be more inclined to recommend the XPA-3 or -5. Then just run your surrounds off of your receiver, it is plenty capable of that.
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Old 01-01-2010, 08:26 AM   #5
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YO! Since you're online I hope you can see this one last question:

Can I adjust the volume of individual speakers? Say I want to pump the center channel up 5db higher than my fronts, can I do that?

Just curious, which do you have? I looked in your gallery but I can't tell. They all look the same!

Also, thanks for the tips on the external amps. I'll look into that as well! I'm kind of a newbie when it comes to HT. Only been reading and playing with all these new toys for two years and I'm still learning so much just from reading these forums.... Which I have grown to love and hate because it gives me "upgrade-itus"!!!
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Old 01-01-2010, 08:28 AM   #6
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I have the 663!

And for sure, each speaker level can be adjusted!
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Old 01-01-2010, 03:19 PM   #7
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i got my rx v765 for $425 from 6ave.com last may during a "name your price" promotion. it's very easy to set-up, has a whole lot of options and has the pre-outs for future upgrades.

if you have any other questions, let me know...
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Old 01-01-2010, 03:44 PM   #8
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I got my 765 for $400 from newegg earlier this year, I really enjoy it and love that it has pre-outs for future upgrades.
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Old 01-01-2010, 03:52 PM   #9
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I have the 663!

And for sure, each speaker level can be adjusted!
That was probably the dumbest question ever but I had to make sure. The manual is so vague!

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i got my rx v765 for $425 from 6ave.com last may during a "name your price" promotion. it's very easy to set-up, has a whole lot of options and has the pre-outs for future upgrades.

if you have any other questions, let me know...
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I got my 765 for $400 from newegg earlier this year, I really enjoy it and love that it has pre-outs for future upgrades.
Ah, man! $400! How can I possibly justify spending more than $450 now knowing that it can go so low! Now do you see what I meant by loving and hating this place?

I was bouncing around between a Pioneer Elite, Denon, and Onkyo. Somehow I stumbled upon some galleries in here with this Yamaha RX-V765. I did some research and from what you guys are saying, it looks like this is a pretty sweet receiver for the money. Pre-outs for future upgrades is definitely what I was looking for.
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Old 01-01-2010, 03:57 PM   #10
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I was looking through the part where it was describing how to manually set the speakers to LARGE or SMALL. The manual states that if you set it to SMALL the low frequency components of the channels are output from a subwoofer. My question is: What is the low frequency cutoff? Can you manually set the cutoff frequency in the receiver? The manual seems really vague... unless I am just missing the information right in front of me.
The low frequency cutoff for the receiver at what frequency the speakers would send the signal TO the subwoofer. just to avoid confusion.

beeftwinky, you can also read up on bass management, found here

when you say individually increase the volume, you can definitely do so to a certain extent, up to around 10db or decrease it as well.

dumb questions are the ones never asked.
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Old 01-01-2010, 10:24 PM   #11
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If the 765 has the outputs you are looking for, an amp is in your future, and the price is right. Do it! A great upgrade as far as I am concerned!

The Yamaha makes for a nice processor, and I think you will be very happy!

If you are looking at the UPA-7, I would be more inclined to recommend the XPA-3 or -5. Then just run your surrounds off of your receiver, it is plenty capable of that.
Besides the XPA-3 and -5 having higher power output than the UPA-7, why do you recommend them over getting the UPA-7? And I also notice the XPA-5 is the same price as the UPA-7.

As you can see, I do not own an external amp and have no idea how to judge them. I only recently learned of the 12v trigger used to turn them on. I thought my Harmony would be able to control an Emotiva but apparently that's not the case.

And thanks to you guys, I am definitely set on this Yamaha as my "upgrade" receiver. Definitely not a lateral move for me from my Onkyo TX-SR674. Don't get me wrong, my Onkyo is awesome. Only reason I'm upgrading is because I'm gonna let my bro use it for his PS3 (old school version). So I figure I can grab this RX-V765 and upgrade to better speakers later on if need be. I'm pretty excited. Just gotta wait for a nice price reduction and I'm all over that biyoch.
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Old 01-02-2010, 05:28 AM   #12
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Holy crap, it dropped to $450 on newegg.com tonight. Now I have to jump on this. Will wait until Sunday for strange reasons. Hopefully it will drop a few more bucks. I don't want it to go back up!
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Holy crap, it dropped to $450 on newegg.com tonight. Now I have to jump on this. Will wait until Sunday for strange reasons. Hopefully it will drop a few more bucks. I don't want it to go back up!
Be careful waiting, I have seen newegg fluctuate their prices many times within the same day let alone over a period of days.
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Old 01-02-2010, 06:43 PM   #14
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Heeding your warning, I placed the order for the RX-V765 today! Hopefully I'll get it Tuesday or Wednesday. Freakin' sweet. Thanks, JasonR, arrt vandelay, ZedsDead, and jomari for all your input in helping me make this decision. I'm gonna have a hell of a time playing with this thing.

Call me crazy but I think half the fun of a new receiver is setting it all up!
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Heeding your warning, I placed the order for the RX-V765 today! Hopefully I'll get it Tuesday or Wednesday. Freakin' sweet. Thanks, JasonR, arrt vandelay, ZedsDead, and jomari for all your input in helping me make this decision. I'm gonna have a hell of a time playing with this thing.

Call me crazy but I think half the fun of a new receiver is setting it all up!
no problem, let us know if you have any questions after receiving it...
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Old 01-05-2010, 02:03 AM   #16
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I am looking really hard at the Yamaha 765. Compared to similar spec receivers. Namely the Denon 2310 and Marantz 6004 I cna get the 765 for a really good price.

My only problem is there are no real reviews anywhere around to read about any problems or hassles.

Was wondering if any owners could give their own impression for me?

pros? cons? performance?
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I have had my 765 for about 2-3 months. I used to have a Denon AVR 3300 which retailed for a grand about 9 years ago. I think my Denon had slightly bigger gonads, but my new Yammy sounds great. I love all the hdmi inputs (4) Everything worked right away when I switched the receivers out and used the new hdmi cables. The manual can be a bit vague, but is workable. I like the pure direct mode now that I understand it. There is a noticable improvement in sound with it switched on. All in all, I am impressed with the sound/features for the amount of money spent.
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Thanks for the thoughts mate. Being that I haven't red anything bad about this receiver yet I think the choice is becoming easier.
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Hi there guys can anyone please explain how pure direct works as i don't understand it any help would be appreciated
thanks i have the 663 model
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Hi there guys can anyone please explain how pure direct works as i don't understand it any help would be appreciated
thanks i have the 663 model
pure direct bypasses pretty much all of the receiver's internal circuitry to give you the "purest" form of 2 channel music. for instance, if you have your fronts crossed over at 80hz and are running a sub, with pure direct, your receiver will not apply its bass management programming. you'll just get a clean signal being sent totally to your mains, which will be run now as "full band" regardless of how you set them up.

i personally prefer to keep a sub in the mix, but at times i use the pure direct mode on my rx v765...
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