80gb PS3 or Sony BDP-S500 - Blu-ray Forum

pjfan91 · 10-22-2007, 04:03 AM

I have a BDP-S300 had to send it back to sony it would not play movies anymore.So anyway customer care called my back and told my the part they needeed was on back order and i could upgrade to the S500 fo $100 dollars more or get a 80GB PS3.WHAT SHOULD I DO

KidOmega123 · 10-22-2007, 04:06 AM

Hmmmm.....choices, choices.

I'd go with the 80GB PS3, but that's only because I dont own one yet (I use a standalone player).

However, in your case that S500 may be tempting.

What's the big difference between the 300 and 500?

pjfan91 · 10-22-2007, 04:12 AM

S300
Product Specifications
Dimensions (Approx.)
17 x 3 1/8 x 14 7/8" (430 x 79 x 375mm)
Weight (Approx.)
10 lb. (4.5kg)
Weight (Approx.)-2
10 lb. (4.5kg)
Dimensions (Approx.)-2
17 x 3 1/8 x 14 7/8" (430 x 79 x 375mm)
Limited Warranty
1 year parts / 1 year labor
Limited Warranty-2
1 Year Parts / 1 Year Labor
Remote Control Functions
Multi Brand TV Remote Control
Screen Saver
Yes
DVD+R Read Compatibility
Yes
DVD+RW Read Compatibility
Yes
DVD-R Read Compatibility
Yes (Video Mode Only)
DVD-RW Read Compatibility
Yes (Video Mode Only)
High Definition
Full HD 1080/24p and 60p1
BD-ROM
Yes
JPEG Playback
Yes (Content must be in DVD+R/+RW/-R/-RW format.)
x.v.Color™
Yes (output without Meta Data)
Analog-to-Digital Converter
192KHz/24bit
dts® Output
Yes
MP3 Playback
Yes (Content must be in DVD+R/+RW/-R/-RW format.)
Dolby® Digital
Decoding: Yes; HDMI™ bitstream out: Yes
Dolby® Digital plus Decoding
Yes
Dolby® TrueHD Decoding
No (Dolby® Digital Stream Only)
dts® Decoding
Yes
dts®-HD Decoding
Hi-resolution Audio: No (dts® Stream Only); Hi-resolution Audio HDMI™ bitstream out: No (dts® Stream Only)
dts®-HD Decoding-2
Master Audio: No (dts® Stream Only); Master Audio HDMI™ bitstream out: No (dts® Stream Only)
SA-CD Playback
No
HDMI™ Connection Output(s)
1 (Rear)
Component Video (Y/Pb/Pr) Output(s)
1 (Rear)
S-Video Output(s)
1 (Rear)
Composite Video Output(s)
1 (Rear)
Optical Audio Output(s)
1 (Rear)
Coaxial Audio Digital Output(s)
1 (Rear)
Analog Audio Output(s)
Analog Audio Output(s) : 5.1 ch; 1 (Rear)
Analog Audio Output(s)-2
2 Channel; 1 (Rear)
PCM Output(s)
Linear PCM Decoding; Linear PCM out via HDMI™ bitstream
Remote Control
Multi Brand TV Remote Control
CD
Yes CD-DA
DVD
Yes (Video)

S500
Product Specifications
Limited Warranty
1 year parts / 1 year labor
Limited Warranty-2
1 Year Parts / 1 Year Labor
Remote Control Functions
Multi Brand TV Remote Control
BD-ROM
Yes
BD-R/RE Read Compatibility
Yes (BDMV format)
Screen Saver
Yes
DVD+R Read Compatibility
Yes
DVD+RW Read Compatibility
Yes
DVD-R Read Compatibility
Yes (Video Mode Only)
DVD-RW Read Compatibility
Yes (Video Mode Only)
High Definition
Full HD 1080/24p and 60p1
JPEG Playback
Yes (Content must be in DVD+R/+RW/-R/-RW format.)
x.v.Color™
Yes (AVC-HD Media Compatibility)
Analog-to-Digital Converter
192KHz/24bit
LPCM
Yes (multi channel decoding); HDMI™ bitstream out: Yes
Dolby® Digital
Decoding: Yes; HDMI™ bitstream out: Yes
Dolby® Digital plus Decoding
Yes; HDMI™ bitstream out: Yes
Dolby® TrueHD Decoding
Yes; HDMI™ bitstream out: Yes
dts® Decoding
Yes;HDMI™ bitstream out: Yes
dts®-HD Decoding
Hi-resolution Audio: YES; HDMI™ bitstream out:YES
dts®-HD Decoding-2
Master Audio: No; HDMI™ bitstream out: No
MP3 Playback
Yes (Content must be in DVD+R/+RW/-R/-RW format.)
SA-CD Playback
No
HDMI™ Connection Output(s)
1 (Rear)
Component Video (Y/Pb/Pr) Output(s)
1 (Rear)
S-Video Output(s)
1 (Rear)
Composite Video Output(s)
1 (Rear)
Optical Audio Output(s)
1 (Rear)
Coaxial Audio Digital Output(s)
1 (Rear)
Analog Audio Output(s)
Analog Audio Output(s) : 5.1 ch; 1 (Rear)
Analog Audio Output(s)-2
2 Channel; 1 (Rear)
Weight (Approx.)
4.8kg
Dimensions (Approx.)
430x99.2x361

Truckondo · 10-22-2007, 04:13 AM

The PS3 is the fastest player out there right now. AFAIK, the only things that BDP-S500 have are IR remote support, and I believe it passes the newer HD audio formats via HDMI to a capable receiver.

pjfan91 · 10-22-2007, 04:16 AM

will the PS3 be able to do the newer HD audio formats via firmware?

Baritonic21 · 10-22-2007, 04:17 AM

I say go for the 80gb all the way...hands down

pjfan91 · 10-22-2007, 04:22 AM

I do have Onkyo 605 Receiver that can do Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD decoding.

quetzalcoatl · 10-22-2007, 04:43 AM

Actually the 605 can do MA decoding. And right now neither one of these players will do MA. Both might be able to with a FW update. You need to ask yourself do you want a standalone or not? Once you answer that then the choice is easy.

pjfan91 · 10-22-2007, 04:57 AM

Is the S500 worth the extra money? $100 dollars more is what they are going to charge me. thanks everyone.

quetzalcoatl · 10-22-2007, 05:10 AM

I would say most likely and if they do a FW update so it can bitstream MA then yes. The PS3 is due for a MA update but there is no confirmation it is going to come. I think you are doing ok either way. How long ago did you get the 300 and what did you pay for it? I know it is $499 now but if you paid more than that I would talk with sony so you get full value for what you paid. Not what they are charging now.

pjfan91 · 10-22-2007, 05:14 AM

I paid $499 i got it the first day it came out fron Sonystyle.com

quetzalcoatl · 10-22-2007, 05:32 AM

Ok I could not remember if that one had come down in price or not. Too many players to keep track of. Since you have been around the site for awhile I am guess you know both the up and down sides to the PS3. Even if some seem to think there are no downs to it at all. The 500 is almost the same player as you have with some minor improvements.

pjfan91 · 10-22-2007, 05:42 AM

Would you pay the extra $100 for the minor improvements? + s500 is only profile 1.0

quetzalcoatl · 10-22-2007, 06:07 AM

Since it does not have MA it makes it a tough choice. What is so sad is that is has the Sigma 8634 chip with HDMI 1.3 but still does not do the MA. It is capable of doing it with a FW update question is will they. That is the same place the PS3 is that is can do it but will it. I have heard that they are negotating with DTS about MA for the PS3. Could it be that they are doing it for the whole line? we just donot know.

I prefrer standalones myself and most of the drawbacks from the PS3 could be solved it they killed the bluetooth on the remote. That is my opinion. The PS3 is future proof for the most part. Since I prefer the standalones I probally would pay the extra. But you have to consider I am hoping to get my pioneer 95 next week and will also probally by a PS3 to have as a second Blu-ray player also.

pjfan91 · 10-22-2007, 06:25 AM

I think i will go with the s500 for now.Put it up on ebay when 2.0 comes out.
Again thank you everyone

Micker · 10-23-2007, 09:52 PM

OMG, the PS3 all the way, no question!! Buy the 40 gb version and save $$. The PS3 is the fastest, most compatible BR player out there. It is also a wifi internet box, game machine, plays sacds etc.. You get sooooo much more for your money on top of a much better BR player. How can you choose to buy anything else?? Once sony updates it to output dts-hd ma audio, it will be a perfect 10.

quetzalcoatl · 10-23-2007, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Micker

OMG, the PS3 all the way, no question!! Buy the 40 gb version and save $$. The PS3 is the fastest, most compatible BR player out there. It is also a wifi internet box, game machine, plays sacds etc.. You get sooooo much more for your money on top of a much better BR player. How can you choose to buy anything else?? Once sony updates it to output dts-hd ma audio, it will be a perfect 10.

Could not disagree more with it being a perfect 10. It will decode the audio and send it LPCM. I want my receiver to decode it not my blu player. Once again that is a personal preference and not something shared by everyone.
And decdoing it in the player is only good if you have analog outs which we know it does not.

johnhood · 10-23-2007, 10:51 PM

PS3! The firmware scalability is, arguably, unbeatable in the mid-to-long term!

10-22-2007, 04:03 AM	#1
pjfan91 Junior Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Downey Blu-ray collection:5	80gb PS3 or Sony BDP-S500 I have a BDP-S300 had to send it back to sony it would not play movies anymore.So anyway customer care called my back and told my the part they needeed was on back order and i could upgrade to the S500 fo $100 dollars more or get a 80GB PS3.WHAT SHOULD I DO

10-22-2007, 05:42 AM	#13
pjfan91 Junior Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Downey Blu-ray collection:5	Would you pay the extra $100 for the minor improvements? + s500 is only profile 1.0 Last edited by pjfan91; 10-22-2007 at 05:47 AM.

10-23-2007, 09:52 PM	#16
Micker Active Member Member since:Mar 2007	Ps3 OMG, the PS3 all the way, no question!! Buy the 40 gb version and save $$. The PS3 is the fastest, most compatible BR player out there. It is also a wifi internet box, game machine, plays sacds etc.. You get sooooo much more for your money on top of a much better BR player. How can you choose to buy anything else?? Once sony updates it to output dts-hd ma audio, it will be a perfect 10.

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10-22-2007, 04:06 AM	#2
KidOmega123 Active Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Kansas City, Missouri	Hmmmm.....choices, choices. I'd go with the 80GB PS3, but that's only because I dont own one yet (I use a standalone player). However, in your case that S500 may be tempting. What's the big difference between the 300 and 500?

10-22-2007, 04:12 AM	#3
pjfan91 Junior Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Downey Blu-ray collection:5	S300 Product Specifications Dimensions (Approx.) 17 x 3 1/8 x 14 7/8" (430 x 79 x 375mm) Weight (Approx.) 10 lb. (4.5kg) Weight (Approx.)-2 10 lb. (4.5kg) Dimensions (Approx.)-2 17 x 3 1/8 x 14 7/8" (430 x 79 x 375mm) Limited Warranty 1 year parts / 1 year labor Limited Warranty-2 1 Year Parts / 1 Year Labor Remote Control Functions Multi Brand TV Remote Control Screen Saver Yes DVD+R Read Compatibility Yes DVD+RW Read Compatibility Yes DVD-R Read Compatibility Yes (Video Mode Only) DVD-RW Read Compatibility Yes (Video Mode Only) High Definition Full HD 1080/24p and 60p1 BD-ROM Yes JPEG Playback Yes (Content must be in DVD+R/+RW/-R/-RW format.) x.v.Color™ Yes (output without Meta Data) Analog-to-Digital Converter 192KHz/24bit dts® Output Yes MP3 Playback Yes (Content must be in DVD+R/+RW/-R/-RW format.) Dolby® Digital Decoding: Yes; HDMI™ bitstream out: Yes Dolby® Digital plus Decoding Yes Dolby® TrueHD Decoding No (Dolby® Digital Stream Only) dts® Decoding Yes dts®-HD Decoding Hi-resolution Audio: No (dts® Stream Only); Hi-resolution Audio HDMI™ bitstream out: No (dts® Stream Only) dts®-HD Decoding-2 Master Audio: No (dts® Stream Only); Master Audio HDMI™ bitstream out: No (dts® Stream Only) SA-CD Playback No HDMI™ Connection Output(s) 1 (Rear) Component Video (Y/Pb/Pr) Output(s) 1 (Rear) S-Video Output(s) 1 (Rear) Composite Video Output(s) 1 (Rear) Optical Audio Output(s) 1 (Rear) Coaxial Audio Digital Output(s) 1 (Rear) Analog Audio Output(s) Analog Audio Output(s) : 5.1 ch; 1 (Rear) Analog Audio Output(s)-2 2 Channel; 1 (Rear) PCM Output(s) Linear PCM Decoding; Linear PCM out via HDMI™ bitstream Remote Control Multi Brand TV Remote Control CD Yes CD-DA DVD Yes (Video) S500 Product Specifications Limited Warranty 1 year parts / 1 year labor Limited Warranty-2 1 Year Parts / 1 Year Labor Remote Control Functions Multi Brand TV Remote Control BD-ROM Yes BD-R/RE Read Compatibility Yes (BDMV format) Screen Saver Yes DVD+R Read Compatibility Yes DVD+RW Read Compatibility Yes DVD-R Read Compatibility Yes (Video Mode Only) DVD-RW Read Compatibility Yes (Video Mode Only) High Definition Full HD 1080/24p and 60p1 JPEG Playback Yes (Content must be in DVD+R/+RW/-R/-RW format.) x.v.Color™ Yes (AVC-HD Media Compatibility) Analog-to-Digital Converter 192KHz/24bit LPCM Yes (multi channel decoding); HDMI™ bitstream out: Yes Dolby® Digital Decoding: Yes; HDMI™ bitstream out: Yes Dolby® Digital plus Decoding Yes; HDMI™ bitstream out: Yes Dolby® TrueHD Decoding Yes; HDMI™ bitstream out: Yes dts® Decoding Yes;HDMI™ bitstream out: Yes dts®-HD Decoding Hi-resolution Audio: YES; HDMI™ bitstream out:YES dts®-HD Decoding-2 Master Audio: No; HDMI™ bitstream out: No MP3 Playback Yes (Content must be in DVD+R/+RW/-R/-RW format.) SA-CD Playback No HDMI™ Connection Output(s) 1 (Rear) Component Video (Y/Pb/Pr) Output(s) 1 (Rear) S-Video Output(s) 1 (Rear) Composite Video Output(s) 1 (Rear) Optical Audio Output(s) 1 (Rear) Coaxial Audio Digital Output(s) 1 (Rear) Analog Audio Output(s) Analog Audio Output(s) : 5.1 ch; 1 (Rear) Analog Audio Output(s)-2 2 Channel; 1 (Rear) Weight (Approx.) 4.8kg Dimensions (Approx.) 430x99.2x361

10-22-2007, 04:13 AM	#4
Truckondo Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Huntington Beach, CA	The PS3 is the fastest player out there right now. AFAIK, the only things that BDP-S500 have are IR remote support, and I believe it passes the newer HD audio formats via HDMI to a capable receiver.

10-22-2007, 04:16 AM	#5
pjfan91 Junior Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Downey Blu-ray collection:5	will the PS3 be able to do the newer HD audio formats via firmware?

10-22-2007, 04:17 AM	#6
Baritonic21 Active Member Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Florida Trading Score:9	I say go for the 80gb all the way...hands down

10-22-2007, 04:22 AM	#7
pjfan91 Junior Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Downey Blu-ray collection:5	I do have Onkyo 605 Receiver that can do Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD decoding.

10-22-2007, 04:43 AM	#8
quetzalcoatl Special Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Grants Pass, OR	Actually the 605 can do MA decoding. And right now neither one of these players will do MA. Both might be able to with a FW update. You need to ask yourself do you want a standalone or not? Once you answer that then the choice is easy.

10-22-2007, 04:57 AM	#9
pjfan91 Junior Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Downey Blu-ray collection:5	Is the S500 worth the extra money? $100 dollars more is what they are going to charge me. thanks everyone.

10-22-2007, 05:10 AM	#10
quetzalcoatl Special Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Grants Pass, OR	I would say most likely and if they do a FW update so it can bitstream MA then yes. The PS3 is due for a MA update but there is no confirmation it is going to come. I think you are doing ok either way. How long ago did you get the 300 and what did you pay for it? I know it is $499 now but if you paid more than that I would talk with sony so you get full value for what you paid. Not what they are charging now.

10-22-2007, 05:14 AM	#11
pjfan91 Junior Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Downey Blu-ray collection:5	I paid $499 i got it the first day it came out fron Sonystyle.com

10-22-2007, 05:32 AM	#12
quetzalcoatl Special Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Grants Pass, OR	Ok I could not remember if that one had come down in price or not. Too many players to keep track of. Since you have been around the site for awhile I am guess you know both the up and down sides to the PS3. Even if some seem to think there are no downs to it at all. The 500 is almost the same player as you have with some minor improvements.

10-22-2007, 06:07 AM	#14
quetzalcoatl Special Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Grants Pass, OR	Since it does not have MA it makes it a tough choice. What is so sad is that is has the Sigma 8634 chip with HDMI 1.3 but still does not do the MA. It is capable of doing it with a FW update question is will they. That is the same place the PS3 is that is can do it but will it. I have heard that they are negotating with DTS about MA for the PS3. Could it be that they are doing it for the whole line? we just donot know. I prefrer standalones myself and most of the drawbacks from the PS3 could be solved it they killed the bluetooth on the remote. That is my opinion. The PS3 is future proof for the most part. Since I prefer the standalones I probally would pay the extra. But you have to consider I am hoping to get my pioneer 95 next week and will also probally by a PS3 to have as a second Blu-ray player also.

10-22-2007, 06:25 AM	#15
pjfan91 Junior Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Downey Blu-ray collection:5	I think i will go with the s500 for now.Put it up on ebay when 2.0 comes out. Again thank you everyone

10-23-2007, 10:51 PM	#18
johnhood Member Member since:Oct 2007 Location:UK	PS3! The firmware scalability is, arguably, unbeatable in the mid-to-long term!

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