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Old 07-09-2008, 08:39 PM   #1
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Someone needs to tell the people that release concerts in Blu Ray that our we want 1080P.
I'm sick and tired of new stuff coming out in 1080i!! 1080i looks ok, but it's not the reason I've spent so much money on my home theater. I demand the very best out of Blu releases!
If the old Batman that was filmed in the 60's can look good, why can't they redo concerts in 1080P??

I'm never buying a 1080i Blu Ray again!! If you can't release a movie
in 1080P, you don't deserve the right to put it on a Blu disk. Save that crap for HD DVD!

Am I missing something??
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Old 07-09-2008, 08:40 PM   #2
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I like my 720P t.v.
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I like my 720P t.v.
720p>1080i, I don't care what anybody else says, its true.

but HOW DARE YOU HAVE THE AUDACITY TO SAY YOU LIKE 720P ON BLU-RAY.COM!!!!!! Shame on you!!!
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I will be honest, and please do not take this the wrong way but you would not know the difference if it was not on the box for concerts.
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Am I missing something??
Yup, if they were shot with digital cameras it is possible that they were recorded in 1080i. A lot of these were shot with an intention of being brought to TV like on PBS where they have all those operas and theatres performances that are shot and presented in HDTV standard 1080i.
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I like my 720P t.v.
same here..
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Old 07-09-2008, 08:46 PM   #7
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and if you have a 1080p display it's going to take the 1080i input and make it progressive isn't it?
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and if you have a 1080p display it's going to take the 1080i input and make it progressive isn't it?
yes, but only be deinterlacing it and putting it all back together, which most tvs have issues doing correctly.
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Old 07-09-2008, 08:49 PM   #9
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and if you have a 1080p display it's going to take the 1080i input and make it progressive isn't it?
I can tell the difference in native 1080P and upscaled 1080P.
Anytime you convert something, isn't their a loss? Even if it's small?

1080i looks good, but it's lacking the cripsness of 1080P.
I have 20/20 vision.
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Old 07-09-2008, 08:52 PM   #10
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If you have a Pioneer KURO you wouldn't tell the difference between 1080i and 1080p, as it processes it properly.

Too many sets don't though. I'd rather see 1080p.
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Old 07-09-2008, 08:53 PM   #11
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Yup, if they were shot with digital cameras it is possible that they were recorded in 1080i. A lot of these were shot with an intention of being brought to TV like on PBS where they have all those operas and theatres performances that are shot and presented in HDTV standard 1080i.

I understand your point, but don't put it on a Blu disk if it's not 1080P.
When Batman was filmed in the 60's, they never dreamed of standard DVD let alone Blu ray.
I guess all I'm asking is for them to properly encode them in VC1 or MEPG4.
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VC-1 and MPEG-4 are capable of doing any resolution interlaced or progressive, they are not there solely for 1080p.
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I understand your point, but don't put it on a Blu disk if it's not 1080P.
When Batman was filmed in the 60's, they never dreamed of standard DVD let alone Blu ray.
I guess all I'm asking is for them to properly encode them in VC1 or MEPG4.
i don't think you are understanding this correctly.

when they shoot them with a digital camera, they are shooting with a camera that is doing 1080i max, no going up from there.

batman was shot on film, which has a resolution well above 1080p, so they can make a 1080p transfer out of that, they can't off shooting the concerts in digital with a 1080i camera.

what you should be asking them for, is to start shooting the concerts in 1080p and not 1080i.

And why not put 1080i on a blu-ray disc if thats the best you can do, it still looks a million times better than a DVD. Its not like they don't clearly state its only 1080i on the package.
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i don't think you are understanding this correctly.

when they shoot them with a digital camera, they are shooting with a camera that is doing 1080i max, no going up from there.
I didn't know that.
It's 2008. You would thing they could figure out how to solve the resolution problem.

Thanks for the replies!!
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I didn't know that.
It's 2008. You would thing they could figure out how to solve the resolution problem.

Thanks for the replies!!
What discs were you thinking about in particular?
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Just remember, that if it was shot with live video cameras or at 30 fps it has to be 1080i60 and there's nothing wrong with that.
1080i60, 1080i50, 1080p30 (formatted as 1080i60 on the discs), 1080p24, etc. are are all different native formats.

A couple of movies (24p) have been coded as 60i but that's another matter.



btw can't people these days express themselves anymore without saying WTF or stuff like that?
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I like my 720P t.v.

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go 1080p!
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What discs were you thinking about in particular?
The Moody Blues: Lovely to See You

Chicago and Earth, Wind & Fire: Live at the Greek Theatre
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btw can't people these days express themselves anymore without saying WTF or stuff like that?
hehe you can't start a sentence like that with "btw"!!

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The Moody Blues: Lovely to See You

Chicago and Earth, Wind & Fire: Live at the Greek Theatre
Haven't seen them, are they that bad? the John Mayer ones pretty damn good. Don't how it was filmed....
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