1080i? WTF??

[Nuttdriver]

Originally Posted by kpkelley

Yup, if they were shot with digital cameras it is possible that they were recorded in 1080i. A lot of these were shot with an intention of being brought to TV like on PBS where they have all those operas and theatres performances that are shot and presented in HDTV standard 1080i.

I understand your point, but don't put it on a Blu disk if it's not 1080P.
When Batman was filmed in the 60's, they never dreamed of standard DVD let alone Blu ray.
I guess all I'm asking is for them to properly encode them in VC1 or MEPG4.

[dobyblue]

VC-1 and MPEG-4 are capable of doing any resolution interlaced or progressive, they are not there solely for 1080p.

[stockstar1138]

Originally Posted by Nuttdriver

I understand your point, but don't put it on a Blu disk if it's not 1080P.
When Batman was filmed in the 60's, they never dreamed of standard DVD let alone Blu ray.
I guess all I'm asking is for them to properly encode them in VC1 or MEPG4.

i don't think you are understanding this correctly.

when they shoot them with a digital camera, they are shooting with a camera that is doing 1080i max, no going up from there.

batman was shot on film, which has a resolution well above 1080p, so they can make a 1080p transfer out of that, they can't off shooting the concerts in digital with a 1080i camera.

what you should be asking them for, is to start shooting the concerts in 1080p and not 1080i.

And why not put 1080i on a blu-ray disc if thats the best you can do, it still looks a million times better than a DVD. Its not like they don't clearly state its only 1080i on the package.

[Nuttdriver]

Originally Posted by stockstar1138

i don't think you are understanding this correctly.

when they shoot them with a digital camera, they are shooting with a camera that is doing 1080i max, no going up from there.

I didn't know that.
It's 2008. You would thing they could figure out how to solve the resolution problem.

Thanks for the replies!!

[aygie]

Originally Posted by Nuttdriver

I didn't know that.
It's 2008. You would thing they could figure out how to solve the resolution problem.

Thanks for the replies!!

What discs were you thinking about in particular?

[Nuttdriver]

Originally Posted by Aygie

What discs were you thinking about in particular?

The Moody Blues: Lovely to See You

Chicago and Earth, Wind & Fire: Live at the Greek Theatre

[aygie]

Originally Posted by Deciazulado

btw can't people these days express themselves anymore without saying WTF or stuff like that?

hehe you can't start a sentence like that with "btw"!!

Originally Posted by Nuttdriver

The Moody Blues: Lovely to See You

Chicago and Earth, Wind & Fire: Live at the Greek Theatre

Haven't seen them, are they that bad? the John Mayer ones pretty damn good. Don't how it was filmed....

[Nuttdriver]

Originally Posted by Aygie

hehe you can't start a sentence like that with "btw"!!



Haven't seen them, are they that bad? the John Mayer ones pretty damn good. Don't how it was filmed....

Audio rocks and the colors/contrast are nice!!

The PQ is just lacking in crispness and has noticable artifacts.
Not what I expected in a Blu Ray. Thats all.....

[kefrank]

1080i and 1080p have the same spatial resolution per frame (1920x1080). the difference is the temporal resolution, as a 1080i frame is made up of two separate 1920x540 fields (one with the odd lines and the other with the even lines).

if a concert was shot in 1080i video, there will likely be temporal artifacts when the player or TV converts it to 1080p for progressive display (even if they deinterlace perfectly), because the two fields of a single frame are not from the exact same moment in time like they are with natively progressive material. prior to disc authoring, the only thing they could do to minimize this is to do a 1080p transfer that does some interpolated image processing, but it still wouldn't be quite the same as native 1080p material.

long story short - stockstar1138 is right, you should be upset that it was shot in 1080i, not that it resides on the BD in 1080i.

[dtrush]

It's really not that big of a deal on the concert as long as they make the audio top notch. I have both i & p and they seem the same to me when you're sitting back a little bit.

[DavePS3]

Concerts are shot with HD VIDEO (tape) cameras at 1080i 30 or 32fps, not FILM cameras that shoot at 24fps. Check out the Pat Metheny at 1080i and tell me it doesn't look as good as any BD film! Some concerts look like crap anyway like the David Gilmour.

[Deciazulado]

Originally Posted by Deciazulado

Just remember, that if it was shot with live video cameras or at 30 fps it has to be 1080i60 and there's nothing wrong with that.
1080i60, 1080i50, 1080p30 (formatted as 1080i60 on the discs), 1080p24, etc. are are all different native formats.

A couple of movies (24p) have been coded as 60i but that's another matter.

btw can't people these days express themselves anymore without saying WTF or stuff like that?

[ixlegitballinxl]

go 1080p!

[GGX]

Originally Posted by Nuttdriver

I didn't know that.
It's 2008. You would thing they could figure out how to solve the resolution problem.

Thanks for the replies!!

lol resolution problem.

These concerts were recorded in native 1080i. The transfer can only be as good as the source material.

The original Batman movie was shot with 35mm film. 35mm film has a resolution higher than even 1080p high-definition. Thats why older movies benefit greatly from a high-def transfer as the detail is already there in the master.

Now if these concerts were shot with film you probably be complaining about the film grain.