I can't tell the difference hd and non hd sound on the ps3 when playing blu-ray movie

[mugupo]

I had receiver that support hd sound, and ps3 latest update, i know that you has to set linear pcm, i had hdmi cable 1.3b. i can't tell sound different bewteetn hd dolby or dts hd over digital 5.1 when i switch.

[Marine Mike]

Why not post a poll about it like your other threads?

EDIT:
Seriously though, it sounds more like a personal problem than a technical issue.

[ADRiiAN`]

Considering everything is setup right, what movies are you listening too?
Some movies have garbage AQ, whereas others have amazing AQ.

[Steve]

Are you using Onkyo speakers?

[CRMA]

That is surprising. The first time I heard Hd sound I was sure that it was louder, but the details really came to life the more I listened. 3:10 to Yuma is a great soundtrack and listen to the shoot out at the end.

[blujacket]

Not surprising considering the speakers you're using.

[Fors*]

The quality of the sound will only be as good as your speakers.....if your speakers are part of the Onkyo Htib, then this could very well limit the range of sound you are hearing, and I bet this is the main reason you are dissappointed in what you hear.

EDIT: Blujacket you posted seconds before me......

[richieb1971]

This thread is misleading. The title says one thing and his post says another.

Between HD and non HD you would have to be deaf not to hear a difference.

Dolby and DTS go about the same thing two different ways in HD, but the sound should be the same or thereabouts.

If your thinking that because on DVD DTS was better, thats because it was a higher bitrate on DVD. On bluray the bitrates should be similar so the two formats are much closer this time around than they were on DVD.

[Steve]

Originally Posted by fireman325

Are you using Onkyo speakers?

Originally Posted by blujacket

Not surprising considering the speakers you're using.

Originally Posted by forsberg21

The quality of the sound will only be as good as your speakers.....if your speakers are part of the Onkyo Htib, then this could very well limit the range of sound you are hearing, and I bet this is the main reason you are dissappointed in what you hear.

EDIT: Blujacket you posted seconds before me......

This is what I was thinking. I was originally using Onkyo HTiB speakers (probably the exact same ones), but when I upgraded to my current speakers, the difference was like night and day.

[repete66211]

Originally Posted by mugupo

I had receiver that support hd sound, and ps3 latest update, i know that you has to set linear pcm, i had hdmi cable 1.3b. i can't tell sound different bewteetn hd dolby or dts hd over digital 5.1 when i switch.

I switched back and forth a few times with my old RM6750 set and could not tell a difference either. With my current lineup I can tell a difference. It's not like night and day but then I don't have the best speakers either.

I think a lot of what you hear depends on expectation and (of course) the interpretation of a subjective experience. I'd be interested in seeing blinded tests performed with different levels of speakers and equipment.

[SlmShdy1]

Originally Posted by richieb1971

This thread is misleading. The title says one thing and his post says another.

That's because you read it wrong. The OP said he can't tell the difference between TrueHD/DTS-HD and regular 5.1. This is not a Dolby VS. DTS thread.

[Warjack Prime]

Don't feel bad op. Any discernable difference I may pinpoint isn't like night and day to me. I think the most noticeable different I perceived was during the title scene of V For Vendetta; when the V was being drawn there's a sharp zinging noise and that sounded really sharp. Also, I've noticed the difference seems more prominent the louder you crank your system.

Other than that to me it sounds like CD vs SACD. I just couldn't pinpoint too much of a difference. I'm sure there are some folks that can but remember everyone is different.

For reference I have the following:

Denon 3808CI receiver
Infinity Alpha 50's fronts
Infinity Beta C360 center
Infinity Beta ES250's 3 rears 6.1
SVS sub
PS3 bluray for playback

So I think pretty decent. The PS3 decodes to linear PCM. I'm sure with much more expensive speakers I'd notice a bigger difference but I got what I got.

[jeff92k7]

Originally Posted by mugupo

i can't tell sound different bewteetn hd dolby or dts hd over digital 5.1 when i switch.

Don't feel bad. Most people really can't hear the differences. They really are pretty subtle. As has been mentioned, you'll need good speakers to hear the difference and I would add that you also need proper speaker placement as well as good acoustics in your room.

I find it laughable that people come on here claiming that the differences are like "night and day". I'll agree that there is a difference, but it's not that obvious. I would bet that most of the people on here claiming that the differences are "so huge that they can't live without HD audio", are fooling themselves and are just trying to convince themselves that they are better than someone else on here thanks to the anonymity of the internet. Think about it...anyone can come on here and claim anything they want.

Heck, I could be talking out my rear-end when I say that I can hear subtle differences between compressed and uncompressed tracks. You really don't know. What you need to keep in mind is that, if it sounds good to you, then it's a good sound. Sound is very subjective and the type of sound I like, may sound to muddy or bright (insert other arbitrary adjective here) to you.

Sit back and enjoy the movie. Stop worrying about what other people claim they can or can't do.

[mugupo]

I got the copy of the x3, their 6.1 dts master really show it in my 7.1 speakers, when i switch audio from 7.1 to 5.1 digital sorround or bitrate, i can tell the difference, perhaps i need to get more 7.1 sound bd in the future.

[scatcher]

I'm appalled at the amount of money I wasted chasing sound quality when I was younger. I was an audiophile, and my wallet suffered for it.

Today I have a DTS 5.1 system that's nearly a decade old, and unless I were to place a lossless audio system next to it I would never know I was missing anything. Sure I could tell the difference if I A/B'd them with an instant switch, but that difference doesn't mean DTS doesn't sound great. It sounds awesome.

That's why my marching orders to friends who are buying new systems is, "Buy decent speakers, and whatever amp you can comfortably afford, and don't sweat the difference."

[prerich]

Originally Posted by mugupo

I got the copy of the x3, their 6.1 dts master really show it in my 7.1 speakers, when i switch audio from 7.1 to 5.1 digital sorround or bitrate, i can tell the difference, perhaps i need to get more 7.1 sound bd in the future.

You're using a PS3 right? I hope you are not trying to Bitstream the HD codecs - you can't do it with a PS3 - set your PS3 to PCM and then try it.

[prerich]

Originally Posted by scatcher

I'm appalled at the amount of money I wasted chasing sound quality when I was younger. I was an audiophile, and my wallet suffered for it.

Today I have a DTS 5.1 system that's nearly a decade old, and unless I were to place a lossless audio system next to it I would never know I was missing anything. Sure I could tell the difference if I A/B'd them with an instant switch, but that difference doesn't mean DTS doesn't sound great. It sounds awesome.

That's why my marching orders to friends who are buying new systems is, "Buy decent speakers, and whatever amp you can comfortably afford, and don't sweat the difference."

All depends on what's important to the user. I have a 1080p set in my theater but my Projector is 720p (native) - can I tell a difference - yes. Do I mind, no. I'm in no rush to go 1080p on the projector end - 720p works fine for me -I'm not a videophile. My wallet doesn't suffer now either I buy on the used circuit now - gently used - but used none the less

[Q?]

Originally Posted by jeff92k7

Don't feel bad. Most people really can't hear the differences. They really are pretty subtle. As has been mentioned, you'll need good speakers to hear the difference and I would add that you also need proper speaker placement as well as good acoustics in your room.

I find it laughable that people come on here claiming that the differences are like "night and day". I'll agree that there is a difference, but it's not that obvious. I would bet that most of the people on here claiming that the differences are "so huge that they can't live without HD audio", are fooling themselves and are just trying to convince themselves that they are better than someone else on here thanks to the anonymity of the internet. Think about it...anyone can come on here and claim anything they want.

Heck, I could be talking out my rear-end when I say that I can hear subtle differences between compressed and uncompressed tracks. You really don't know. What you need to keep in mind is that, if it sounds good to you, then it's a good sound. Sound is very subjective and the type of sound I like, may sound to muddy or bright (insert other arbitrary adjective here) to you.

Sit back and enjoy the movie. Stop worrying about what other people claim they can or can't do.

Nice post! I totally agree with you.

[Steve]

Originally Posted by fireman325

This is what I was thinking. I was originally using Onkyo HTiB speakers (probably the exact same ones), but when I upgraded to my current speakers, the difference was like night and day.

Originally Posted by jeff92k7

Don't feel bad. Most people really can't hear the differences. They really are pretty subtle. As has been mentioned, you'll need good speakers to hear the difference and I would add that you also need proper speaker placement as well as good acoustics in your room.

I find it laughable that people come on here claiming that the differences are like "night and day". I'll agree that there is a difference, but it's not that obvious. I would bet that most of the people on here claiming that the differences are "so huge that they can't live without HD audio", are fooling themselves and are just trying to convince themselves that they are better than someone else on here thanks to the anonymity of the internet. Think about it...anyone can come on here and claim anything they want.

Heck, I could be talking out my rear-end when I say that I can hear subtle differences between compressed and uncompressed tracks. You really don't know. What you need to keep in mind is that, if it sounds good to you, then it's a good sound. Sound is very subjective and the type of sound I like, may sound to muddy or bright (insert other arbitrary adjective here) to you.

Sit back and enjoy the movie. Stop worrying about what other people claim they can or can't do.

If this is directed at me, I think my post is being taken wrong, but after re-reading it I can see why. I didn't mean to say that the difference between the lossless vs. lossy audio was like night and day. Like you say it's pretty subtle usually. My intended meaning is that the difference between my new and old speakers are like night and day. However, I can hear much more with my new speakers than I could with my old ones. With my old setup, I couldn't tell the difference at all between the lossless and lossy tracks. With my newer setup, I can hear things I never could before, even on lossy tracks. I can hear some differences now, IF I do direct comparisons of the same scenes back-to-back, but as stated, the differences are subtle. OP, I apologize if my post came across the wrong way. It wasn't my intention to misrepresent the information.

[repete66211]

Originally Posted by jeff92k7

Don't feel bad. Most people really can't hear the differences. They really are pretty subtle. As has been mentioned, you'll need good speakers to hear the difference and I would add that you also need proper speaker placement as well as good acoustics in your room.

I find it laughable that people come on here claiming that the differences are like "night and day". I'll agree that there is a difference, but it's not that obvious.

I agree. Well said.