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[Dase]

Originally Posted by Fors*

If I had to guess, I think it would be the Oppo 83...but I was telling eric this, that I find it hard to upgrade to it since my Panny BD-30 has been stellar, and it would seem to be a $500 upgrade to get SACD's and a few more bells and whistles that I am not sure if many mean all that much to me....but I keep reading how awesome it is, so of course I want one too.....

It's funny how that process works . That's how I am with the dual sub want, even though I am happy with my bass resonse right now in my room, I keep reading about you guys with duals and it makes my trigger finger itch like crazy lol. I'm sure the 83 would be absoutely awesome, it's little brother 80 does a fine job as well .

Have a good day guys!

[Jwilly019]

Originally Posted by Fors*

Go with the projector...it will do more for your HT than anything else you mentioned.

If I had to guess, I think it would be the Oppo 83...but I was telling eric this, that I find it hard to upgrade to it since my Panny BD-30 has been stellar, and it would seem to be a $500 upgrade to get SACD's and a few more bells and whistles that I am not sure if many mean all that much to me....but I keep reading how awesome it is, so of course I want one too.....

Unless you watch a lot of DVDs you might want to go with the Oppo 80 for just under $300. It seems like the 83 is for those who watch a lot of DVDs or use analog still.

Justin

[Fors*]

Originally Posted by Jwilly019

Unless you watch a lot of DVDs you might want to go with the Oppo 80 for just under $300. It seems like the 83 is for those who watch a lot of DVDs or use analog still.

Justin

I thought I read that the SACD's processor (I don't remember what it is actually called) is better on the 83? Enough so to help warrant the higher price tag. I have thought about the 80, but I then I think about how buying the 80 would be like buying the "cheaper" or "smaller" version of 2 subs, when I know I should just get the "best" or "biggest" one from the get go.

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The 83 does have a better analog section than the 80, but the 80 does sound sweet . It also has the ABT scaler, where the 80 just has a standard scaler much like the one in the PS3. I have the same ABT scaler in my AVR which is part of the reason I went with the 80.

The good thing with OPPO is you are getting an awesome machine whichever one you choose, you just need to pick the one that suits your needs best .

[Jwilly019]

Originally Posted by Fors*

I thought I read that the SACD's processor (I don't remember what it is actually called) is better on the 83? Enough so to help warrant the higher price tag. I have thought about the 80, but I then I think about how buying the 80 would be like buying the "cheaper" or "smaller" version of 2 subs, when I know I should just get the "best" or "biggest" one from the get go.

I think you are talking about the DACs, in which case you may be right. I'm not really sure if there is a difference or what that difference is. However, if you choose to bitstream to your Elite and let it do the decoding, there wouldn't be a difference. It all depends on which component has the best DACs.

Justin

[Fors*]

Originally Posted by Jwilly019

I think you are talking about the DACs, in which case you may be right. I'm not really sure if there is a difference or what that difference is. However, if you choose to bitstream to your Elite and let it do the decoding, there wouldn't be a difference. It all depends on which component has the best DACs.

Justin

Yeah, that is something I will need to look further into whenever I think I am ready for the Oppo. I would bitstream, so it may not make a difference for me.....thanks Justin.

[Jwilly019]

Originally Posted by Fors*

Yeah, that is something I will need to look further into whenever I think I am ready for the Oppo. I would bitstream, so it may not make a difference for me.....thanks Justin.

Just did a quick search of Oppo's site and AVS and (from this limited research) it looks like both will send DSD over HDMI, but only the 83 is capable of DSD over analog. Whereas the 80 will first convert the DSD stream to PCM when connected via analog. The 83 also has dedicated stereo analog outs.

Whether these are worth the additional $210 is up to you.

Justin

[Fors*]

Originally Posted by Jwilly019

Just did a quick search of Oppo's site and AVS and (from this limited research) it looks like both will send DSD over HDMI, but only the 83 is capable of DSD over analog. Whereas the 80 will first convert the DSD stream to PCM when connected via analog. The 83 also has dedicated stereo analog outs.

Whether these are worth the additional $210 is up to you.

Justin

I am starting to think not....and that means I would have to spend $200 less dollars, making it hard not to really give the Oppo 80 some serious thought. Again, I have to weigh the worth of SACD for myself. If I don't think I will play music often, the 80 may not even be worth it......

[Dase]

The 83 has a dedicated stereo output, where the 80's is shared with the 7.1 analog section. You can also output the DSD stream on SACD's via analog on the 83, whereas you can only output it as PCM via analog on the 80. Both output the DSD stream for SACD over HDMI (which is excellent ). The DAC's in the 83 are better than the DAC's in the 80 also, but for the price the 80 is a very high quality audio player.

Hope that helps a bit.

[Fors*]

Originally Posted by -dase-

The 83 has a dedicated stereo output, where the 80's is shared with the 7.1 analog section. You can also output the DSD stream on SACD's via analog on the 83, whereas you can only output it as PCM via analog on the 80. Both output the DSD stream for SACD over HDMI (which is excellent ). The DAC's in the 83 are better than the DAC's in the 80 also, but for the price the 80 is a very high quality audio player.

Hope that helps a bit.

Yes it does, thanks -dase-. I really need to weigh how much I would use the 80 or 83 as a SACD player versus the price tags. If it is not much, then keeping the Panny BD-30 makes good sense (until it dies, anyway.)

Load up times, and using a dedicated stereo output are not big issues for me. Any possible improved PQ for blu and DVD's along with the SACD element are.....at least I have time to ponder before making any decision.....

[Jwilly019]

Originally Posted by Fors*

I am starting to think not....and that means I would have to spend $200 less dollars, making it hard not to really give the Oppo 80 some serious thought. Again, I have to weigh the worth of SACD for myself. If I don't think I will play music often, the 80 may not even be worth it......

I have 5 SACD titles right now, but would like to get a few more so the Oppo 80 looks like a good fit for me. I had given some though to the Sony *70 line which also play SACD. However, the Oppos have a simple, $15 region-free mod in case I ever want a region B title.

Justin

[Fors*]

Originally Posted by Jwilly019

I have 5 SACD titles right now, but would like to get a few more so the Oppo 80 looks like a good fit for me. I had given some though to the Sony *70 line which also play SACD. However, the Oppos have a simple, $15 region-free mod in case I ever want a region B title.

Justin

So you already have the Oppo 80 Justin?

[Jwilly019]

Originally Posted by Fors*

So you already have the Oppo 80 Justin?

No, I currently have the Sony 550. For SACD I have a Denon 1940, which doesn't stream DSD over HDMI like I would like. The Oppo 80 is the currently the front runner when I decide to upgrade. If Oppo would add Netflix streaming I would probably upgrade now even though the 550 has performed flawlessly.

Justin

[Fors*]

Originally Posted by Jwilly019

No, I currently have the Sony 550. For SACD I have a Denon 1940, which doesn't stream DSD over HDMI like I would like. The Oppo 80 is the currently the front runner when I decide to upgrade. If Oppo would add Netflix streaming I would probably upgrade now even though the 550 has performed flawlessly.

Justin

I have to do some homework. I know the 83 is always at $500 and never on sale from what I've seen, but does the 80 occassionally go on sale from what you know?

[Jwilly019]

Originally Posted by Fors*

I have to do some homework. I know the 83 is always at $500 and never on sale from what I've seen, but does the 80 occassionally go on sale from what you know?

Not that I've heard. From what I understand, Oppo's products rarely (if ever) go on sale.

Justin

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FWIW I have been really satisfied with the 80. I only have a few SACD's myself, but I really enjoy them. As a bluray player, it is very fast, virtually silent (no fan), and also plays video off external devices via usb. Me likey

[Dase]

Originally Posted by Fors*

I have to do some homework. I know the 83 is always at $500 and never on sale from what I've seen, but does the 80 occassionally go on sale from what you know?

If you go through amazon and have prime you can get it without paying shipping , not to mention have it in 2 days .

[Fors*]

Originally Posted by -dase-

If you go through amazon and have prime you can get it without paying shipping , not to mention have it in 2 days .

LOL!!! I do have Prime, and this is definitely one piece of equipment I could add without telling the wife. She would never know either, but I promised to at least inform her of any purchases I wanted to make before I would. She wouldn't tell me I can't buy it, but then again, she can make me wish I never got it afterwards, if you know what I mean.

There is that delicate balance you have to maintain to get the WAF.

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Haha, delicate balance indeed .

When my wife asked what the package was from amazon, I told her it was leftovers from the plasma upgrade lol . Needless to say, I received "the look". But then when I gave her the rest of the leftovers "the look" magically disappeared , and was replaced with the WAF. haha.

[Fors*]

Originally Posted by -dase-

Haha, delicate balance indeed .

When my wife asked what the package was from amazon, I told her it was leftovers from the plasma upgrade lol . Needless to say, I received "the look". But then when I gave her the rest of the leftovers "the look" magically disappeared , and was replaced with the WAF. haha.

I have never tried to buy the WAF...but maybe I should?