Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[wormraper]

Originally Posted by Bluyoda

I watched ANH and TESB today, and they look and sound fantastic for the most part. Really amazing for such relatively old films.
These gotta be leaps and bounds above the DVDs or LDs.

They aren't that big a leap over the DVDs. I have both

[Thomas Guycott]

Originally Posted by Bluyoda

I watched ANH and TESB today, and they look and sound fantastic for the most part. Really amazing for such relatively old films.

I'm sorry, but this is an incredibly shortsighted remark. It's not like we're talking about nitrate prints from the 20s or 30s: these films aren't even 40 years old, for God's sake.

[Bluyoda]

Everything is relative.

[motorheadache95]

Originally Posted by Takeshi666

It'll stop once UOT is actually released. Up until then it's nothing more than a wild rumour and/or wishful thinking.

It hasn't been confirmed yet, yes, but I wouldn't call it wild speculation.

But that's not even the point-- the whole "They're HIS films, he can do what he wants" argument isn't even valid anymore. They aren't his films anymore-- he sold them to Disney. All the old arguments of the creator's versus audiences rights for these films are now a moot point. The creator relinquished his responsibility of it.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by motorheadache95

It hasn't been confirmed yet, yes, but I wouldn't call it wild speculation.

But that's not even the point-- the whole "They're HIS films, he can do what he wants" argument isn't even valid anymore. They aren't his films anymore-- he sold them to Disney. All the old arguments of the creator's versus audiences rights for these films are now a moot point. The creator relinquished his responsibility of it.

Fox own them, not Disney any release would be comarketed

[octagon]

Originally Posted by motorheadache95

They aren't his films anymore-- he sold them to Disney.

Oh, haven't you heard? Lucas insisted on super-double-secret contract provisions under which he gets the four+ billion dollars and retains full control of the Star Wars universe.

Even after he dies Disney has to hold séances to get his okay before they can do anything.

He's quite the negotiator

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by motorheadache95

It hasn't been confirmed yet, yes, but I wouldn't call it wild speculation.

But that's not even the point-- the whole "They're HIS films, he can do what he wants" argument isn't even valid anymore. They aren't his films anymore-- he sold them to Disney. All the old arguments of the creator's versus audiences rights for these films are now a moot point. The creator relinquished his responsibility of it.

Yes, this was covered many pages ago...so now what?
Say Disney doesn't release them. Does entitled fan now boycott everything Disney?
How funny would that be if George, as final F-you to all the venom spewers, had some clause incorporated into the Disney contract stating that the originals never be released.
I, highly, doubt any such thing happened, and I'm sure we'll see them released at some point in time. Probably when Disney has regained distribution rights to all three, or at least, Episodes 5/6 in 2020.
Even if they are released, there will some entitled fans out there that will not rest until they find fault. By this point, finding fault is ingrained into a select wacky few.

[Thomas Guycott]

Oh boy, I love the Disney/Fox ownership loop in the argument. It's like the ride that never ends!

[rickah88]

Well with verbiage like "in perpetuity", conceivably it never could.

[Thomas Guycott]

Originally Posted by rickah88

Well with verbiage like "in perpetuity", conceivably it never could.

But do we know whether that's still the case? What is the current situation since the Special Editions, Prequels, and finally the Disney sale? Things did change hands during that period and it seems like the debate keeps getting recycled because nobody listens to whoever has the latest news and just starts everything over at square one.

I would like the final, definitive news from somebody who actually knows what they're talking about so that this particular argument link in the debate chain can be broken once and for all.

[AmandaBanana]

I would pay good money to see that "Special Edition" version of The Force Awakens. I also like to punch myself in the head a lot, so same thing really.

[SymbioticFunction]

Originally Posted by Vlad Draculi

William Shatner is just too terrible of an actor to even enjoy the stuff he is in.

Hmmm. That aside. Maybe you'd like First Contact.

[shane01]

Originally Posted by svenge

Are you implying that there wasn't any time for GL to have James Earl Jones record a few takes of "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" back in 1983? Or that there was a shortage of boulders in Tunisia to hide a remote-controlled droid in in the mid-1970s? And I'm sure it would've taken days to set up a Greedo dummy to hold a blaster and add a single badly-aimed bolt in post-production...

Besides, if you asked any UOT fan if there was an absolute guarantee of getting the original cuts of Star Wars on BD that they'd find any of the three audio mixes exhibited in 1977 quite acceptable. Personally I'd prefer the 70mm mix, but I'd take the mono or the stereo mix (provided that it was lossless, of course).

Oh, I'd want it all, obviously. And the changes are baffling, but that's beside the point. It's interesting to know that Lucas was making alterations to Star Wars five hours after it premiered. And it's not like a sound mix from an IMAX screening of Interstellar vs. a general multiplex screening or something. The audio included new/different dialogue. I'm fascinated by the fact that at least two different "versions" of Star Wars were playing in May 1977. Only audio changes, but when dealing with Star Wars, the soundtrack is pretty important.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by Thomas Guycott

But do we know whether that's still the case? What is the current situation since the Special Editions, Prequels, and finally the Disney sale? Things did change hands during that period and it seems like the debate keeps getting recycled because nobody listens to whoever has the latest news and just starts everything over at square one.

I would like the final, definitive news from somebody who actually knows what they're talking about so that this particular argument link in the debate chain can be broken once and for all.

Well, I can say I've never seen the contract between LucasFilm and Fox, but methinks since the subject is Star Wars that somewhere over the last couple decades someone would've pointed out something to the contrary.
Ball is in Disney's court. We'll see what happens.

[Gold Ranger]

Originally Posted by Bluyoda

I watched ANH and TESB today, and they look and sound fantastic for the most part. Really amazing for such relatively old films.
These gotta be leaps and bounds above the DVDs or LDs.

I usually agree with you, but I think they really failed to do this series any justice on the Blu-Ray, considering that they were never scanned for HD.
The FX weren't enhanced either. The one that they did fix, they didn't even half-ass it, they quarter-assed it!
Luke's White/Blue/Green all in the same shot Lightsaber.
Matte Boxes around X-Wings and Ties are also more noticeable.

I didn't go looking for the errors, they just pop out to me.
Also, since you just saw them, what do you think about the Magical Rocks on Tatooine with R2?
And the Disappearing Windows on Cloud City?

[Gold Ranger]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

Fox own them, not Disney any release would be comarketed

FOX OWNS NOTHING!

They ONLY have Distribution Rights!
Nothing more, Nothing less!

Episode 1,2,3,4,5,6 all are owned by Disney now!

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by Thomas Guycott

I'm sorry, but this is an incredibly shortsighted remark. It's not like we're talking about nitrate prints from the 20s or 30s: these films aren't even 40 years old, for God's sake.

Not to mention there are many much older films that look look far better on Blu because of proper remastering.

[Vlad Draculi]

Originally Posted by bkfountain

there's some okay trek films, but it's really a tv franchise. The characters and storylines are far better in the shows than the action focused movies.

I've never been able to get into the TV series either. I do not know why, honestly, I just find them boring.

Originally Posted by BladeRunner2007

In fact I'd prefer the original audio mix and no 5.1 upmix bulls....

Uh no. This is 2014, nearly 2015, not 1984. If it is going to be released, it needs a 5.1 audio track. They can give it its mono/stereo/whatever tracks too, but they need to include a 5.1 one as well.

Originally Posted by dvdmike

Fox own them, not Disney any release would be comarketed

We don't know what the fine print says. However, what Disney wants Disney gets. Hell, I would rather Disney bought out our government as at least I would know we are going to get ****ed right if they ran it.

[BouCoupDinkyDau]

Originally Posted by amoergosum

"Star Wars: Episode VII Trailer - George Lucas' Special Edition"

Star Wars: Episode VII Trailer - George Lucas' Special Edition - YouTube

OMG that was excellent.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by HonestJohn

It's called a year of postproduction to go and add small touches

Trailers often look vastly different from the final versions.