Carrie (1976) (Collector's Edition)

[format916]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

color bars, those very simple amateur calibrations.

are tvs even set up with color bars? i dont think so. unless youre going by those old criterion dvd features of color bars. i mean to properly do color bars like a tv news station you need to match it with the black bars as well, and then comes waveform and vectorscope...nothing amateurish about it.

[Rockercub]

Originally Posted by format916

are tvs even set up with color bars? i dont think so. unless youre going by those old criterion dvd features of color bars. i mean to properly do color bars like a tv news station you need to match it with the black bars as well, and then comes waveform and vectorscope...nothing amateurish about it.

I think he's talking about something like a calibration disc. The Spears & Munsil disc I used has various bars for different settings. Not all color, but various bars to adjust things like the brightness, contrast, and color temperature (mine is actually set to cool per the calibration). And that's really amateurish compared to what a professional can do. But my experience is that it gets you pretty far compared to just using the factory settings.

[JohnCarpenterFan]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

They both look amazing, Thing doesn't look digital at all to my eyes.

Maybe not to you, but there are digital sharpening artifacts visible throughout the presentation that are not film-based and aren't present on the older master.

Carrie has no such issues and looks completely like film, The Thing looks pretty good/decent but is not a solid representation of how film should look and is capable of looking much, much better.

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by Rottweiler30

I just use the THX mode on my Panasonic V10 plasma. Apparently very close to an out of the box calibration.

I would seriously look at hiring someone reputable to do a full cal as you have severe drift (especially with greyscale) given it's almost an 8 year old plasma.

[StingingVelvet]

Originally Posted by sjconstable

Warm colour temp isn't accurate though, on every TV I've tested it's too cool and you need to adjust the engineer settings to bring it into line. If I were unable to do that I'd much rather a slightly too warm image in the Natural colour temp setting than a slightly too cool image in the Warm setting.

My entire post was about getting as close as possible without a pro-calibration, so you telling me a pro-calibration is better kind of misses the forest for the trees. Yes, preset color temps are not firmly d65 or rec709 accurate, but the point is warm is usually the closest setting for an amateur calibration. A ton of people, even enthusiasts on here, use medium or cool settings., which throws off their evaluation of these new masters.

Originally Posted by format916

are tvs even set up with color bars? i dont think so. unless youre going by those old criterion dvd features of color bars. i mean to properly do color bars like a tv news station you need to match it with the black bars as well, and then comes waveform and vectorscope...nothing amateurish about it.

My TV has them in the menu. Early Sony blus also have them in their calibration feature. You can also download them for free with a ton of other calibration images on AVS.

[StingingVelvet]

Originally Posted by JohnCarpenterFan

Maybe not to you, but there are digital sharpening artifacts visible throughout the presentation that are not film-based and aren't present on the older master.

It might have some mild sharpening baked in, similar to the Fifth Element. I didn't really see it despite being picky and having a large screen, but I am not super sensitive to sharpening, it might be there. That alone does not mean it looks "digital" though. It still looks amazing and much more like film than the previous BD.

[Ray Jackson]

I wouldn't even know how to calibrate my television even if I wanted to.

...yes I really am that stupid.

[Ray Jackson]

I received my order of Carrie and Glengarry today and I just want to take the time to give Bull Moose some props for the great service.

The price was right.

The customer service response was right.

The delivery time was relatively short.

The slipcover was there.

The condition of both cases was pristine.

...I would happily order from these guys again.

[starman15317]

^Agreed, my copies of Carrie and The Thing came from Bull Moose today. My first order from them and it definitely won't be my last.

[Jay Mammoth]

Originally Posted by Ray Jackson

I received my order of Carrie and Glengarry today and I just want to take the time to give Bull Moose some props for the great service.

The price was right.

The customer service response was right.

The delivery time was relatively short.

The slipcover was there.

The condition of both cases was pristine.

...I would happily order from these guys again.

Yep. My order of the 1st 4 Harry Potter movies came in Wednesday. I ordered the last 4 last night. Saved me about $45 if I bought them from Target. They have already shipped.

[Arch Stanton]

Received this in the UK today! Very excited to watch.

[Ray Jackson]

Watched this last night.

Never saw the old transfer, but this one looks fantastic imo.

And the new interviews are great--especially the one with the writer.

...love everything about this release.

[Rockercub]

I went to the screening last night and had a great time. Lots of people dressed up, and there was a costume contest. The audience was appreciative, but respectful. In other words, everybody cheered at the big moments, but it wasn't full out Rocky Horror Picture Show with people yelling at the screen throughout. When Carrie went on her rampage, they flipped on all the red lights in the theater and the audience went bonkers. The panel was good, but I thought Bryan Fuller was a little annoying. I did learn a few new things, but I'm curious to see if they're repeated on the blu-ray interviews. As to the movie, I thought it looked fantastic. I didn't have any issues with the framing, and actually some of the split screens looked very slightly lopsided to the other side, so it seemed balanced overall. I can see how someone not used to seeing real film grain might find it to be a grainy presentation, but this is the level of grain I'm familiar with. It didn't look wonky like some of the grain in other presentations I've complained about. Assuming the DCP matches the blu-ray, I should be very happy.

[wonkavision]

Finished watching Carrie Collector's Edition and it looked quite nice. I think this is maybe the third time I've ever seen this film...and have a question for those super familiar...

1) When Nancy Allen

[Show spoiler]tells the Coach to "stick it up your ___.

Is that word not meant to be heard or said? I'm not sure if it's an audio blip.

2) Does DePalma actually fast forward/high speed the guys at the tux shop in front of the mirror for a few moments?

[JackForrester]

Originally Posted by wonkavision

Finished watching Carrie Collector's Edition and it looked quite nice. I think this is maybe the third time I've ever seen this film...and have a question for those super familiar...

1) When Nancy Allen

[Show spoiler]tells the Coach to "stick it up your ___.

Is that word not meant to be heard or said? I'm not sure if it's an audio blip.

2) Does DePalma actually fast forward/high speed the guys at the tux shop in front of the mirror for a few moments?

1- She basically stops herself at the last second because she realizes cursing the teacher will get her into (even more) trouble. That's how its supposed to be.

2- Yes, that was just a comic relief moment.

[Rockercub]

Originally Posted by JackForrester

2- Yes, that was just a comic relief moment.

It works as comic relief, but it was really more of an editing choice. Paul Hirsch talked about it at the screening last night. He had already made two jump cuts in the scene and didn't want to make another, but this section was too long. He had seen a movie where they used this technique of speeding up through the unimportant portions of a long scene of dialogue, and he decided to try it here to maintain the pacing.

[Member-167298]

Originally Posted by JackForrester

2- Yes, that was just a comic relief moment.

I love Carrie, but let's call that what it is.

A really lame and out of place attempt at comic relief.

[wonkavision]

Originally Posted by PrestonXI

I love Carrie, but let's call that what it is.

A really lame and out of place attempt at comic relief.

I agree. It is a truly WTF moment. That whole guys at the tux shop scene was comic relief without the FF, adding that just seemed odd.

[JackForrester]

Just out of curiosity, did anyone ever tried to use a editing program to put their voices at normal speed? (I have no idea if this is possible, just something that came to me now)

[Member-167298]

Originally Posted by wonkavision

I agree. It is a truly WTF moment. That whole guys at the tux shop scene was comic relief without the FF, adding that just seemed odd.

I don't understand why a jump cut wasn't used. It wouldn't have been ideal, but it would have been better than speeding up the film. I wish I could do a fan edit.