Possible Problem with SUB-12

[HAMP]

Originally Posted by Blu-Dog

Dude, that is really weird. Guess I better check mine...

Your the person I thought about and couldn't remember the name. You have two of them also and I remember you saying you have the Hz turned all the way up and your not getting any serious bass.

Read this from the Manual:

For optimum performance, place your subwoofer in a corner of the room on the same wall as your front channel speakers.(refer to Figures 1 and 2).
Please note that room placement can have a dramatic effect upon the performance of your powered subwoofer. Corner placement, as suggested above, will increase the amount of bass output, while placing the subwoofer along the middle of a wall, or out in the room will decrease the amount of bass output. Experiment with a number of different placement options and control settings to find the one that best suits your particular room and taste.

[haste]

mine seems to be labeled and/or wired correctly.

[Blu_Ray_Fan]

SuperCube FTW! HaHa! I'm glad you got it figured out and it's no costing you anything! I want another SC1 but they are $1100 I think. No money for that right now after x-mas!

[Blu-Dog]

Originally Posted by HAMP

Your the person I thought about and couldn't remember the name. You have two of them also and I remember you saying you have the Hz turned all the way up and your not getting any serious bass.

Read this from the Manual:

For optimum performance, place your subwoofer in a corner of the room on the same wall as your front channel speakers.(refer to Figures 1 and 2).
Please note that room placement can have a dramatic effect upon the performance of your powered subwoofer. Corner placement, as suggested above, will increase the amount of bass output, while placing the subwoofer along the middle of a wall, or out in the room will decrease the amount of bass output. Experiment with a number of different placement options and control settings to find the one that best suits your particular room and taste.

Actually, I did that when I had them in my living room (a much larger space, which is why I bought two) and had mixed results. I finally got decent performance when I had them with the ports facing the front corners, about two feet from the wall - I have a slanted ceiling, wave propagation is just bizarre in there. Sat on the couch looking at it, it's all good, then I went to adjust the angle on the right rear surround and the volume boomed up something fierce - it was much louder there. And it was all reflected sound, just horrible.

So I threw in the towel, went out and bought the JL Audio, and just brute-forced it in there.

I moved the SUB-12's into the family room, an open area that's almost impossible to get decent placement in (I promise to get pictures up by tomorrow) and one of the amps promptly gave out. Just dead. So BB replaced the amp (they were only about six weeks old) and they've been good since then.

They're actually by our Mom & Pop seats, almost like Buttkickers, but again, decent placement is horrible. I'm building up my custom passives to sit in a TV alcove, under the set, can't put the Klipsch's there because of port placement.

So one, or both, is going to my youngest after he gets back from Kuwait. I like them, but they're probably best in a room with a lower ceiling, and smaller in size.

My oldest has all Klipsch, including this sub, in a small place he got, and it sounds terrific - and not pushed hard, either. I like the SQ, at medium volume, it's a good sub. You just need to find the right spot for it, if it exists in your home.

[HAMP]

Originally Posted by Blu-Dog

My oldest has all Klipsch, including this sub, in a small place he got, and it sounds terrific - and not pushed hard, either. I like the SQ, at medium volume, it's a good sub. You just need to find the right spot for it, if it exists in your home.

Wow!!.. So you do like the sound they put out, the way your son has it with medium volume and not pushed hard? That's how I have mine also, it's just not doing it for you in that size/shape room?

I glad I found out my problem was the reversed numbers with the Hz. Do you know what settings your son as his sub's? If they are at 80 or 120Hz

[Kev1080P]

i have mine set at 80 on both the sub and the receiver, is that what you do Hamp?

[Blu_Ray_Fan]

Originally Posted by Kev1080P

i have mine set at 80 on both the sub and the receiver, is that what you do Hamp?

The sub should be set at the highest setting if your receiver is performing the x-over duties.

[HAMP]

Originally Posted by Kev1080P

i have mine set at 80 on both the sub and the receiver, is that what you do Hamp?

Well that's what started all of this. I had my receiver set @ 80Hz and the subs set @ 80Hz. That's wrong

They sounded fine to me, people have told me to try and leave the receiver @ 80Hz and turn the subs all the way up to 120Hz. By doing this, mine sounded terrible. Reason it sounded terrible, I come to find out that the numbers are reversed on my subs.

Since the numbers were reversed by turning it to 120, I really was turning it to 40hz. Thus it sounded bad



It should be:
Receiver: 80Hz
Subs: 120Hz

The problem is make sure if you have the Klipsch Sub12, test to make sure that the numbers are not reversed.

I had:
Receiver: 80Hz
Subs: 80Hz

Even if the numbers were reversed 80hz was still 80hz, becasue it was at the top of the knob.

[Blu-Dog]

Originally Posted by HAMP

Wow!!.. So you do like the sound they put out, the way your son has it with medium volume and not pushed hard?

It was deep and clean. The thing is, he has a small house with an odd U shaped open area - the living room is at the bottom of the U, and the sub is on the right, with the port facing the right side of the U. Sound bounces in there just right, the sub sounds great.

Originally Posted by HAMP

That's how I have mine also, it's just not doing it for you in that size/shape room?

It's got to be the room. I took one of them into my home office, a bedroom about 12'x20', and it sounds great.

Originally Posted by HAMP

I glad I found out my problem was the reversed numbers with the Hz. Do you know what settings your son as his sub's? If they are at 80 or 120Hz

He's in Iraq right now, so I can't ask him. I remember going crazy with it a while back - I bought these after hearing his - and he told me how his was set up. I haven't changed it.

He has an earlier non-HDMI Pioneer, but it does have sub settings, and his is set to cross over at 80Hz. He's a communications gearhead, and swore a holy oath that the output signal rules; if the signal is filtered to 80Hz and below, it doesn't matter where the sub is set, as long as it's not set below 80Hz.

He gave me some "getting a refrigerator through a door, if it's wide enough, don't worry about it, Dad" analogy, as I recall, but I hate it when my kids talk down to me. I don't care if he's smarter than I am, I'm his Dad, dammit. So I set them at 120Hz like he said, and left it there, it's still that way. This was about a year ago.

[HAMP]

Originally Posted by Blu-Dog

He's in Iraq right now.

I do prey that he comes home safe and sound from over there...

I don't care if he's smarter than I am, I'm his Dad, dammit. So I set them at 120Hz like he said, and left it there, it's still that way. This was about a year ago.

So have you tried to turn to the other way to see if your numbers are reversed?
Because that's when I bought mine, about a year ago in Feb.