The Matrix 4K UHD (1999)

[ROSS.T.G.]

Originally Posted by Ray_Rogers

I also saw all three in cinemas. Some strange reason I didn't like The Animatrix when I got it in the clear plastic with the Neo mini-bust set. Always skipped over it often and I sold the set ages ago.


I've forgotten if any of the bonus features in the below set covered the three video games. Enter The Matrix, THE MATRIX: Path of Neo (IMO superior to the sequels), THE MATRIX Online. The latter which continued the story after the Trilogy. I'd have to look on DVDCompare.net

I don’t think I’ve seen that set before. I can’t remember the last time I opened up my BD set.

[JohnCarpenterFan]

IIRC the DP or someone closely involved with the film stated that camera filters were used to create the green hue seen in several scenes set inside the Matrix and I believe that the main source of the blues seen in the future scenes are blue color gels which were attached to light sources. I imagine that the yellow/brown seen in the DVD is a result of the telecine colorist attempting to "naturalize" a film where the green is baked-in at the negative stage.

Kind of reminds me of John Carpenter's Vampires, the whole film was given a heavy red push photochemically but for several scenes red graduated filters were used during shooting in order to create a gradient effect. When the original negative was scanned and the French and German Blu-rays came out, they didn't apply the red tint to the whole film (which they should have) so everything looked life-like, except the scenes that were shot with graduated filters still showed red at the top of the screen which stretched downwards and disappeared near the center of the image.

But yeah, when it comes to The Matrix: real world scenes = blue and scenes set in The Matrix = green. This is what the creators say and this is how it appears in the prints. The DVD is wildly inaccurate to say the least despite what some may claim, and the Blu-ray (while far from ideal) is a much more faithful representation of the film than many may think and I'm expecting the UHD to more closely resemble the Blu-ray than the DVD.

[azmodeous]

I seem to remember the DVD and Blu-ray sets both had the cinematic cutscenes from Enter the Matrix at the least. The other games I'm fuzzy on as I never owned either set though.

[OutOfBoose]

ASC read is really great. Detailed and sets the right expectations from the transfer.

[Ray_Rogers]

Originally Posted by azmodeous

I seem to remember the DVD and Blu-ray sets both had the cinematic cutscenes from Enter the Matrix at the least. The other games I'm fuzzy on as I never owned either set though.

http://dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=13689#2

AND I'm gonna just post in a massive copy and paste in a spoiler what it contains. It's quite a lot.

[Show spoiler]

Blu-ray ALL America - Warner Home Video
The Ultimate Matrix Collection    
Extras:
DISC ONE: "The Matrix" (Blu-ray)
* The Film
Audio commentary by philosophers Dr. Cornel West and Ken Wilder
Audio commentary by critics Todd McCarthy, John Powers and David Thomson
Audio commentary by cast and crew Carrie-Anne Moss, Zach Staenberg and John Gaeta
Musical audio commentary by composer Don Davis
"In-movie Experience" picture-in picture video commentary
"Behind the Story":
- "Written introduction by The Wachowski Brothers" notes (9 pages)
- "The Matrix Revisited" documentary (122:50)
- "Behind the Matrix" featurettes (with 'Play all' option - 42:58):
-- "Making The Matrix" (25:50)
-- "The Dance of the Master: Yuen Wo Ping's Blocking Tapes" (5:48)
-- "The Bathroom Fight and Wet Wall" (3:15)
-- "The Code of the Red Dress" (0:46)
-- "The Old Exit: Wabash and Lake" (2:36)
-- "Agent Down" (1:32)
-- "But Wait - There's More" (3:09)
- "Follow the White Rabbit" featurettes (with 'Play all' option - 23:01):
-- "Trinity Escapes" (1:06)
-- "Pod" (2:24)
-- "Kung Fu" (3:57)
-- "The Wall" (2:04)
-- "Bathroom Fight" (2:05)
-- "Government Lobby" (4:08)
-- "Government Roof" (2:35)
-- "Helicopter" (1:02)
-- "Subway" (3:35)
- "Take the Red Pill" featurettes (with 'Play all' option - 17:42):
-- "What is Bullet Time?" (6:15)
-- "What is the Concept?" (11:27)
"Audio"
- "The Music Revisited" - 41-track Audio Jukebox (with Play All) (41:44)
-- 1. Aleks Svaensson – "Syvelleve" (5:41)
-- 2. da.nu.lo – "I'm not right (Im what's left)" (4:11)
-- 3. Gooding – "Licorice and Grape Kool Aid" (3:06)
-- 4. Jetsetmusic – "Last Laugh Foundation Part C" (3:23)
-- 5. Obadia – "Lounge" (2:07)
-- 6. Obadia – "Slowride" (4:34)
-- 7. Omniverse – "Hipshot" (3:31)
-- 8. The Fur Ones – "Semicolon" (2:08)
-- 9. Robert Phoenix – "Speedy Astronaut" (4:53)
-- 10. Canton – "Birmingham, 43" (6:21)
-- 11. Electrostatic – "Electron Gun" (4:41)
-- 12. Ikarus – "Praying to different gods" (4:57)
-- 13. Nolens Volens – "Por Sea T" (10:01)
-- 14. Out of Body – "Beyond Mind" (4:24)
-- 15. Paul Cooper – "CEM2 New Stuff" (6:08)
-- 16. Proactive Noize Transmission – "One foot freek" (4:48)
-- 17. Project 3 – "Go get it" (4:05)
-- 18. VOID – "Chemical 2000" (5:29)
-- 19. Audible Ink – "Sand Turtle" (3:51)
-- 20. O.R.G. – "Sofa Surfur" (5:51)
-- 21. Simulacra – "Spy Vs Spy" (4:51)
-- 22. Wade R – "Squarely in the groove" (3:45)
-- 23. Audible Ink – "Beetle Instrumental" (2:29)
-- 24. Beet T Tribe – "Beet T Tribe (slight return)" (2:58)
-- 25. Fingertwister – "7 a.m. Disaster" (4:10)
-- 26. Hardknox – "Coz I can" (5:07)
-- 27. Aleks Svaensson – "Art of Recycling" (5:07)
-- 28. Canton – "Blue Groove" (8:49)
-- 29. Fingertwister – "Casino Royale" (3:59)
-- 30. Aleks Svaensson – "Sunny" (4:57)
-- 31. Fingertwister – "In Memory of..." (5:36)
-- 32. Less Skill – "Technical Difficulties" (3:04)
-- 33. Simulacra – "Panacea" (6:38)
-- 34. Fingertwister – "The Reverend Will Return"(6:24)
-- 35. O.R.G. – "Traveling Man" (4:27)
-- 36. Project 3 – "The Search" (7:19)
-- 37. Tripnotic – "Tripnofunk" (5:39)
-- 38. The Fur Ones – "Transit" (0:57)
-- 39. The Fur Ones – "Product" (2:16)
-- 40. The Fur Ones – "The End" (2:19)
-- 41. The Fur Ones – "Reduction" (3:55)
- "Rock is Dead" music video by Marilyn Manson (3:19)
"Trailers":
- Teaser trailer (0:58)
- Theatrical trailer (2:27)
- TV spots (with 'Play all' option - 3:46):
-- "Manson" (0:32)
-- "Reality" (0:32)
-- "Forget Everything" (0:32)
-- "Mystery" (0:32)
-- "Buckle Up" (0:17)
-- "The Answer" (0:32)
-- "Kung Fu" (0:32)
-- "Whoa" (0:16)

DISC TWO: "The Matrix Reloaded" (Blu-ray)
* The Film
Philosophers commentary by Dr. Cornel West & Ken Wilder
Critics commentary by Todd McCarthy, John Powers & David Thomson
In-Movie Experience picture-in-picture commentary
"Behind the Story"
- Written introduction by The Wachowski Brothers
- "Behind The Matrix" featurettes (with 'Play all' option - 46:57):
-- "The Matrix Unfolds" (5:20)
-- "Pre-Load" (22:10)
-- "Get Me an Exit" (9:47)
-- "The MTV Movie Awards Reloaded" (9:38)
- "Car Chase" featurettes (with 'Play all' option - 86:07):
-- "The Freeway Chase" (30:49)
-- "Oakland Streets and Freeway: Unseen Material" (10:06)
-- "Tour of the Merovingian's Garage" (2:08)
-- "Queen of the Road" (3:16)
-- "Arteries of the Mega-City: The Visual Effects of the Freeway Chase" (11:52)
-- "Foresight: Pre-planning the Mayhem" (6:29)
-- "Freeway Truck Crash: Anatomy of a Shot" (5:32)
-- "Fate of the Freeway" (1:26)
-- "Freeway Action Match" (14:25)
- "Teahouse Fight" featurettes (with 'Play all' option - 7:04):
-- "Two Equals Clash" (4:04)
-- "Guardian of the Oracle: Collin Chow" (3:00)
- "Unplugged" featurettes (with 'Play all 'option - 40:26):
-- "Creating the Burly Brawl" (17:21)
-- "A Conversation with Master Wo Ping" (10:00)
-- "Chad Stahelski: The Other Neo" (2:22)
-- "Burly Brawl Action Match" (6:07)
-- "Spiraling Virtual Shot: Anatomy of a Shot" (4:33)
- "I'll Handle Them" featurettes (with 'Play all' option - 17:10):
-- "The Great Hall" (5:18)
-- "Building the Merovingian’s Lair" (5:05)
-- "Tiger Style: A Day in the Life of Chen Hu" (3:37)
-- "Heavy Metal: Weapons of the Great Hall" (3:08)
- "The Exiles" featurettes (with 'Play all' option - 17:53):
-- "The Exiles" (9:27)
-- "Big Brother is Watching: The Architects Office" (8:26)
Additional Footage:
- "Enter the Matrix: The Game" featurette (28:15)
- View the 23 Live Action Scenes shot for the Video Game that plug into the action of the Matrix Reloaded (with 'Play all' option - 42:31)
Audio:
- Music Video by P.O.D. (3:43)
Trailers:
- Reloaded/Revolutions Teaser (1:18)
- The Matrix Reloaded Trailer (2:25)
- The Matrix Reloaded TV Spots (with 'Play all' option - 4:31):
- "Yes" (0:32)
- "Jack In" (0:32)
- "Nice Trick" (0:17)
- "Story" (0:32)
- "No Escape" (0:32)
- "I'm In" (0:32)
- "Prophecy" (0:32)
- "Neo" (1:01)

DISC THREE: "The Matrix Revolutions" (Blu-ray)
*The Film
Philosophers commentary by Dr. Cornel West & Ken Wilder
Critics commentary by Todd McCarthy, John Powers & David Thomson
In-Movie Experience picture-in-picture commentary
Behind the Story:
- Written introduction by The Wachowski Brothers
- "Behind the Matrix" featurettes (with 'Play all' option - 90:03):
-- "Revolutions Recalibrated" (27:04)
-- "Neo Realism: Evolution of Bullet Time" (12:23)
-- "CG Revolution" (15:31)
-- "Super Big Mini Models" (8:46)
-- "Double Agent Smith" (7:11)
-- "Mind Over Matter: The Physicality of the Matrix Future"(8:04)
-- "Future Gamer: Matrix Online" (11:00)
"Before the Revolution - Explore the Story Before the Revolution"
"3-D Evolution - Concept Art, Story Boards and More"
- "Crew" featurettes (with 'Play all' option - 25:01):
-- "Owen's Army: Australian Art Department" featurette (4:22)
-- "2nd Unit: A World of Their Own" (5:58)
-- "Bill Pope: Cinematographer of the Matrix" (7:47)
-- "Masters of Light and Shadow" (6:51)
- "Hel" featurettes (with 'Play all' option - 27:34):
-- "Coat Check" (4:40)
-- "Upsidedown Under" (5:11)
-- "Fast Break" (5:45)
-- "Exploding Man" (4:34)
-- "Gun Club" (2:26)
-- "The Extras of Club Hel" (4:56)
- "Super Burly Brawl" featurettes (with 'Play all' option - 16:53):
-- "The Skybarn" (4:49)
-- "The Crater" (4:54)
-- "The Egg" (2:42)
-- "Anatomy of the Superpunch" (4:24)
- "New Blue World" featurettes (with 'Play all' option - 26:06):
-- "Geography of Zion" (8:45)
-- "The Ships" (5:43)
-- "Tour of the Neb" (3:16)
-- "Matrix TV" (5:13)
-- "Logos Fight Expansion" (3:07)
- "Siege" featurette (with 'Play all' option - 40:09):
-- "Dig This" (9:53)
-- "The Siege Action Match" (10:02)
-- "Anatomy of a Shot: Mifune's Last Stand" (5:06)
-- "Building an APU" (5:05)
-- "Product of Zion" (9:57)
- "Aftermath" featurettes (with 'Play all' option - 39:49):
-- "Revolutionary Composition" (8:44)
-- "The Glue" (7:29)
-- "Dane Tracks" (7:21)
-- "Cause and Effects" (16:10)
Trailers:
- The Matrix Revolutions Trailer (2:15) HD, 1080p
- The Matrix Revolutions TV Spots (with 'Play all' option - 2:41):
- "Give Anything" (0:31)
- "Help" (0:31)
- "Power" (0:31)
- "Future" (0:16)
- "Believe" (0:16)
- "Control" (0:31)

DISC FOUR: "The Animatrix" (Blu-ray)
* The Shorts (with Play All)
Audio commentary with director Yoshiaki Kawajiri on "Program" (in Japanese, with English, French, Italian, Dutch, Spanish or Portuguese subtitles)
Audio commentary with director Mahiro Maeda on "The Second Renaissance Part 1" (in Japanese, with English, French, Italian, Dutch, Spanish or Portuguese subtitles)
Audio commentary with director Mahiro Maeda on "The Second Renaissance Part 2" (in Japanese, with English, French, Italian, Dutch, Spanish or Portuguese subtitles)
Audio commentary with director Takeshi Kokie on "World Record" (in Japanese, with English, French, Italian, Dutch, Spanish or Portuguese subtitles)
"Making Final Flight of Osiris" featurette (6:30)
"Making The Second Renaissance Parts 1 and 2" featurette (9:44)
"Making Kid's Story and Detective Story" featurette (9:42)
"Making The Program" featurette (6:10)
"Making World Record" featurette (7:23)
"Making Beyond" featurette (8:47)
"Making Matriculated" featurette (6:44)
"Scrolls to Screen: The History and Culture of Anime" featurette (22:24)

DISC FIVE SIDE A - "The Roots of The Matrix" (DVD)
"Return to Source: The Philosophy of The Matrix" documentary (61:01
"The Hard Problem: The Science Behind the Fiction" documentary (61:01)
7 featurettes (see "Easter Eggs")
Weblinks

DISC FIVE SIDE B - "The Burly Man Chronicles" (DVD)
"The Burly Man Chronicles" documentary (With "Follow the White Rabbit" branching featurettes) (94:33)
"Follow the White Rabbit" featurettes
- Pre-Production
-- "Steve Skroce" (2:37)
-- "Geof Darrow" (7:43)
-- "George Hul" (2:20)
-- "Pre-Production" (6:15)
-- "Kym Barett" (2:32)
-- "Owen Paterson" (4:54)
-- "Rock On: Rock Galotti" (6:00)
- Alameda Shoot
-- "Rigmaster" (2:19)
-- "Ronumentary" (5:27)
-- "A Day in the Life of Agent Johnson" (5:29)
-- "Anthony Zerbe" (2:14)
- Australian Shoot
-- "Tribute" (4:45)
-- "Roy Jones" (3:12)
-- "Mary Alice" (3:02)
-- "Desert Of The Real" (2:27)
-- "Peter Rob King" (3:37)
-- "Upgrades" (2:10)
-- "Ian Bliss" (2:12)
-- "Publicity Shoot" (2:10)
-- "A Day in the Life of Dr. Cornel West (8:07)
-- "The End" (2:05)

DISC SIX - "The Zion Archive" (DVD)
"The Zion Archive"
- Storyboards (Computer-Generated & Hand Drawings)
- The Characters (Color Sketches)
- Ships (Production Drawings)
- Machines (Production Sketches)
- Set Sketches (also some Photos)
"The Media of The Matrix"
- "The Matrix"
-- Trailers
--- Teaser Trailer (1:00)
--- Theatrical Trailer (2:33)
-- TV Spots
--- "Manson" (0:33)
--- "Reality" (0:33)
--- "Forget Everything" (0:33)
--- "Mystery" (0:33)
--- "Buckle Up" (0:17)
--- "The Answer" (0:33)
--- "Kung Fu" (0:33)
--- "Whoa" (0:17)
-- Music Video
--- Marilyn Manson "Rock Is Dead" (3:20)
- "The Matri Reloaded"
-- Trailers
--- Teaser Trailer (1:20)
--- Theatrical Trailer (2:27)
-- TV Spots
--- "Yes" (0:33)
--- "Jack In" (0:33)
--- "Nice Trick" (0:18)
--- "Story" (0:33)
--- "No Escape" (0:33)
--- "I'm In" (0:33)
--- "Prophecy" (0:33)
--- "Neo" (1:04)
-- Music Video
--- P.O.D. "Sleeping Awake" (3:44)
- "The Matrix Revolutions"
-- Trailers
--- Theatrical Trailer (2:24)
-- TV Spots
--- "Give Anything" (0:33)
--- "Help" (0:33)
--- "Power" (0:33)
--- "Future" (0:18)
--- "Believe" (0:18)
--- "Control" (0:33)
"Rave Reel" featurette (9:08)
"The Matrix Online" Preview (9:34)
Subtitles:
Dutch, English, French, Italian, Japanese, Portuguese (Brazilian), Spanish (Latin)
Aspect Ratio:
2.40:1
Picture Format:
1080p 24fps VC-1
Soundtrack(s):
English Dolby TrueHD 5.1
English Dolby Digital 5.1
French Dolby Digital 5.1
Italian Dolby Digital 5.1
Japanese Dolby Digital 5.1
Portuguese (Brazilian) Dolby Digital 2.0 Surround
Spanish (Latin) Dolby Digital 2.0 Surround
Case type:
Special Case
Easter eggs:
Featurettes
- "The Hero's Journey" (3:50)
- "Names" (4:18)
- "The Holy Grail" (2:00)
- "Interpretations" (4:40)
- "Nanotechnology" (1:17)
- "Modular Reconfigurable Robots" (1:51)
- "Future Technology" (1:09)
EASTER EGG: On DISC 5 SIDE A skip to the next page on the Menu (warnervideo.com) press right, then press enter. Press the arrow keys to highlight various featurettes, press enter.

From what I remember, when you complete stuff in THE MATRIX: Path of Neo, it unlocks behinds the scenes videos and other goodies.

[koberulz]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

The AC article (yes, them again) which mentions that ^ titbit is up for anyone who wants to take a gander, and interestingly enough the DP Bill Pope does mention using a green filter on the lights and/or dialling in a bit of green during the colour timing on the Matrix scenes. But for whatever reasons it comes through like a brown wash on the old transfer.

So is it the DVD that's in error, then?

Are there screenshot comparisons anywhere?

[Ray_Rogers]

Originally Posted by koberulz

So is it the DVD that's in error, then?

Are there screenshot comparisons anywhere?

Which DVD release? A (OG cinematic color timing) or B (digitally revised color timing)?

A or B

(Oh damn, those snapcases.)

[JohnCarpenterFan]

Originally Posted by Ray_Rogers

Which DVD release? A (OG cinematic color timing) or B (digitally revised color timing)?

A or B

(Oh damn, those snapcases.)

Neither of those have the original colors. At the moment, only the original 35mm prints do.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by JohnCarpenterFan

Neither of those have the original colors. At the moment, only the original 35mm prints do.

Are you sure about that? I saw this in the theater three times and then turned around and bought the VHS and DVD. They both had a similar color timing to what I saw in the theater.

[Poya]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

I barely made it through the rental. Just a pile of dung all around.

Jupiter Ascending is one of those films that turns out bad but then accidentally becomes good by the end of it. It’s just a spectacular mess, you have to see it once in your lifetime. It’s the Battlefield Earth of this decade.

[imsounoriginal]

Originally Posted by JohnCarpenterFan

IIRC the DP or someone closely involved with the film stated that camera filters were used to create the green hue seen in several scenes set inside the Matrix and I believe that the main source of the blues seen in the future scenes are blue color gels which were attached to light sources. I imagine that the yellow/brown seen in the DVD is a result of the telecine colorist attempting to "naturalize" a film where the green is baked-in at the negative stage.

Kind of reminds me of John Carpenter's Vampires, the whole film was given a heavy red push photochemically but for several scenes red graduated filters were used during shooting in order to create a gradient effect. When the original negative was scanned and the French and German Blu-rays came out, they didn't apply the red tint to the whole film (which they should have) so everything looked life-like, except the scenes that were shot with graduated filters still showed red at the top of the screen which stretched downwards and disappeared near the center of the image.

But yeah, when it comes to The Matrix: real world scenes = blue and scenes set in The Matrix = green. This is what the creators say and this is how it appears in the prints. The DVD is wildly inaccurate to say the least despite what some may claim, and the Blu-ray (while far from ideal) is a much more faithful representation of the film than many may think and I'm expecting the UHD to more closely resemble the Blu-ray than the DVD.

Did not know this. Thanks for the info.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by JohnCarpenterFan

But yeah, when it comes to The Matrix: real world scenes = blue and scenes set in The Matrix = green. This is what the creators say and this is how it appears in the prints. The DVD is wildly inaccurate to say the least despite what some may claim, and the Blu-ray (while far from ideal) is a much more faithful representation of the film than many may think and I'm expecting the UHD to more closely resemble the Blu-ray than the DVD.

Given that the Wachowskis retimed the last transfer to look as it did then the UHD - presuming their involvement - is bound (heh) to hew closer to that look than not, but there's still a myriad of problems with that transfer which I hope get rectified for the UHD.

Originally Posted by koberulz

So is it the DVD that's in error, then?

Are there screenshot comparisons anywhere?

For me it's six of one, half a dozen of the other. The old DVD is too brown but the newer transfer pushes the green and the contrast waaaaay too much, it's very much a product of its time (like the 2004 transfers for the Star Wars trilogy) so one hopes that the UHD transfer will be more nuanced.

[OutOfBoose]

Checked new transfers of movies that were shot on the same film stock. It should look quite grainy overall.

[singhcr]

Originally Posted by OutOfBoose

Checked new transfers of movies that were shot on the same film stock. It should look quite grainy overall.

What are some examples of those other movies?

[JohnCarpenterFan]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

Are you sure about that? I saw this in the theater three times and then turned around and bought the VHS and DVD. They both had a similar color timing to what I saw in the theater.

Positive. The DVD was just your typical telecine and it doesn't have the colors/qualities of film.

As mentioned there are scenes missing the green hue that were there theatrically and sometimes the green shows up as yellow in some shots but disappears in others, even if they are from the same scene.

35mm (appears to be a raw scan):



DVD:


Print being projected (to give a rough idea of how it looks):

Matrix on 35 mm - YouTube

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Given that the Wachowskis retimed the last transfer to look as it did then the UHD - presuming their involvement - is bound (heh) to hew closer to that look than not, but there's still a myriad of problems with that transfer which I hope get rectified for the UHD.

The green is pushed too far overall on the Blu-ray although on prints there are some scenes that are greener, and the contrast is way too much.

If the issues with the Blu-ray are fixed then we'd basically end up with the original color timing. The best option for me would be if Warner color-matched the film with an answer print like they have been doing with their latest remasters whenever possible.

[OutOfBoose]

Originally Posted by singhcr

What are some examples of those other movies?

Interior scenes (Kodak Vision 500T 5279):

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/A-Sin...7/#Screenshots
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Spide...4/#Screenshots

Exterior daylight scenes, FX (Kodak Vision 200T 5274):

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Spide...5/#Screenshots

[rewak]

Another thing on the 35mm colour, there's a scan of the trailer around. Obviously not properly timed but it gives you an idea of what it originally looked like.

https://vimeo.com/212361397

I'm glad this is coming but i can't help but feel like a better idea would be to hold off for the sequels and inevitable box set. I'd like to replace the Ultimate set with a 4K version, and i can see them milking it for every cent they can.

[OutOfBoose]

^It doesn't give an idea of what it looked like. Colors are completely off. Not much different from that 35mm scan (so-called 2.0) with yellow faces. The closest thing is the blu-ray still.

[Geoff D]

Never judge a look by the trailer.

[Ray_Rogers]

Originally Posted by geoff d

never judge a look by the trailer.

THE MATRIX REVISIONS.

Much can be said about trailers but no.