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Old 06-06-2019, 07:34 AM   #1341
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Those and the UHD are still closer together, than the old BD release was.
I am not sure what your point is.
The BD was trash from day one, I said it day one.
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Old 06-06-2019, 09:16 AM   #1342
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Love the uhd but I had to exchange it, unfortunately. The opening song was crackling from the right front speaker and I had a couple of total freezes in chapters 32 and 33. I haven't tried the exchanged disc yet.
Wow!! Same thing happened on my disc with the exact freezes on those chapters. I had that happen with my Sony 4k player, then tried it on my LG player and no freezing. Popped it back into the Sony player and no freezing again on CH 32 & 33. I still wanted Amazon to send a replacement, just to be on the safe side. Hope the replacement will be fine with no skipping on any player.

Has this happened to anyone else with Batman (1989) 4K? Now I will have a spare digital code with the replacement....hmmmm lol
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Old 06-06-2019, 09:27 AM   #1343
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Wow!! Same thing happened on my disc with the exact freezes on those chapters. I had that happen with my Sony 4k player, then tried it on my LG player and no freezing. Popped it back into the Sony player and no freezing again on CH 32 & 33. I still wanted Amazon to send a replacement, just to be on the safe side. Hope the replacement will be fine with no skipping on any player.

Has this happened to anyone else with Batman (1989) 4K? Now I will have a spare digital code with the replacement....hmmmm lol
If its free I will take the digital code
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Old 06-06-2019, 09:33 AM   #1344
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Amazing job by Warner on the remastered BDs this time... Basically the same as UHD without HDR P3
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Old 06-06-2019, 11:05 AM   #1345
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Yep, I don't see that teal hue on my screen AT ALL. His settings must be all outta wack, and blames the transfer for the messed-up image. But, if you try and call him out on it, he flips out and gets crazy defensive, too. Seems like an elitist little baby.

What's even sadder is his videos seem to actually dissuade people from wanting to but the movie... what, is his word the gospel, or something? Whatever, that is definitely the first and last comparison video I'll be watching of his. 😕👎
Of course he does, everyone thinks they're doing it correctly. Call them out on it and they don't like it, no sir. I would react the same way if I didn't have a ****ing clue. See also: mocomocomongo and his wonky screen caps.

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Indeed the 4K does appear to not suffer the issue as the 1080p disc does. Why does this keep happening?
You mean the cyan tinted highlights? Forget it Cap. It's Warnerstown.
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Old 06-06-2019, 11:12 AM   #1346
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They are tho.
Much better ones were posted earlier in the threads.
What, like the ones I posted previously...from the same source??

https://zauberklang.ch/filmcolors/ga...s/batman-1989/
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Old 06-06-2019, 11:51 AM   #1347
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If its free I will take the digital code
No sir, wouldn’t be free lol. Nice try though 😉
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Old 06-06-2019, 12:03 PM   #1348
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What, like the ones I posted previously...from the same source??

https://zauberklang.ch/filmcolors/ga...s/batman-1989/
Long day, they looked like bad scans on my phone my bad
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Old 06-06-2019, 01:03 PM   #1349
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It's a downmix of the Atmos track.
Yes.

So we all get the 1997 DVD Audio Track AND the NEW Sound Effects of the REMASTER/4K in Lossless or Lossy or both.

No 35mm Analog/Stereo Mix that was on the VHS and Laserdisc and film print 35mm. No 70mm 4 Mix either.

This Atmos downmix is super nice though, and the gunshots are better. Should they just have ported over the Laserdisc, or ripped both 35mm and 70mm and gave us those yes sure. But that would be to perfect and 4K format just gets it done with no extra's if you guys haven't noticed.
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Old 06-06-2019, 01:17 PM   #1350
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So we all get the 1997 DVD Audio Track AND the NEW Sound Effects of the REMASTER/4K in Lossless or Lossy or both.
Nope.
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Old 06-06-2019, 01:37 PM   #1351
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Yes.

So we all get the 1997 DVD Audio Track AND the NEW Sound Effects of the REMASTER/4K in Lossless or Lossy or both.

No 35mm Analog/Stereo Mix that was on the VHS and Laserdisc and film print 35mm. No 70mm 4 Mix either.

This Atmos downmix is super nice though, and the gunshots are better. Should they just have ported over the Laserdisc, or ripped both 35mm and 70mm and gave us those yes sure. But that would be to perfect and 4K format just gets it done with no extra's if you guys haven't noticed.
We will do when I get the bloody thing synced
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Old 06-06-2019, 01:49 PM   #1352
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So I know I'll get laughed at for this question, but if one wanted to attempt to contact WB in order to "attempt" to see about the possibility about a replacement disc with the original audio mix, how would they begin that process?

Again, I know my chances but I'm just curious.
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Old 06-06-2019, 02:59 PM   #1353
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I picked up all 4 and have so far watched Batman. This was my first viewing so I'll give my thoughts on the movie too. I had only seen Batman Forever previously.

The movie was good but not what I was expecting at all. I was expecting an origin story, but maybe it's good that it wasn't. Then I'd probably be comparing it to Batman Begins, which is an exceptional movie in my mind. It didn't feel very Burtonesque to me, but then I'm mostly familiar with his work since Sleepy Hollow so maybe that's to be expected. It also felt quite dated, but I tried to ignore this as SFX were only so good in 89.
[Show spoiler]That shot of the Joker falling off the Catherdral though was cringe worthy. That looked like something from the 50s.
I also felt like it spent more time on the Joker than Batman, it seemed like it was more his story.

I definitely liked it but did not feel it was as great as it seems most people in this thread do. But I can totally believe if I was older and saw this in 1989, it might have had more an an impact.

I felt Michael Keaton was the weakest link. He wasn't convincing to me at all, as either Batman or Wayne. I was surprised by that because I've always heard how disappointed people were with Kilmer and Clooney as Batman. Bassinger was pretty good as was the actor who played Alfred. I thought Nicholson was exceptional as the Joker. Seems like there's pretty much universal agreement on that. That was the highlight for me.

[Show spoiler]I did not see it coming that the Joker killed Bruce's parents. Of course that might be since he didn't in the various other interpretations. I'm also not sure if that actually happened or if Bruce was just inserting the Joker into his memory unconsciously. The Joker does confirm he killed them though, although I'm not sure how he could know this . Had he already figured out Barma's identity? I'm guessing this is something that has been debated before.


The picture quality was excellent. This is one of the better UHDs I have seen. You will definitely want this if you like the movie. The sound effects seemed fine to me, but of course it was my first time hearing them. Sucks if you're used to hearing them a different way though. (Some of you guys seem as intimately familiar with this movie as I am with Back to the Future! ). I agree they should have included both tracks. I'm still upset we don't have that for Terminator, as some of the new sound effects can actually affect your interpretation of the scenes.

I'm looking forward to watching the others in the next couple weeks!
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Old 06-06-2019, 03:03 PM   #1354
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So I know I'll get laughed at for this question, but if one wanted to attempt to contact WB in order to "attempt" to see about the possibility about a replacement disc with the original audio mix, how would they begin that process?

Again, I know my chances but I'm just curious.
It's possible Burton did not want it included.
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Old 06-06-2019, 03:04 PM   #1355
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They should redo the entire movie, replace Keaton and add all CGI.
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Old 06-06-2019, 03:07 PM   #1356
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I picked up all 4 and have so far watched Batman. This was my first viewing so I'll give my thoughts on the movie too. I had only seen Batman Forever previously.

The movie was good but not what I was expecting at all. I was expecting an origin story, but maybe it's good that it wasn't. Then I'd probably be comparing it to Batman Begins, which is an exceptional movie in my mind. It didn't feel very Burtonesque to me, but then I'm mostly familiar with his work since Sleepy Hollow so maybe that's to be expected. It also felt quite dated, but I tried to ignore this as SFX were only so good in 89.
[Show spoiler]That shot of the Joker falling off the Catherdral though was cringe worthy. That looked like something from the 50s.
I also felt like it spent more time on the Joker than Batman, it seemed like it was more his story.

I definitely liked it but did not feel it was as great as it seems most people in this thread do. But I can totally believe if I was older and saw this in 1989, it might have had more an an impact.

I felt Michael Keaton was the weakest link. He wasn't convincing to me at all, as either Batman or Wayne. I was surprised by that because I've always heard how disappointed people were with Kilmer and Clooney as Batman. Bassinger was pretty good as was the actor who played Alfred. I thought Nicholson was exceptional as the Joker. Seems like there's pretty much universal agreement on that. That was the highlight for me.

[Show spoiler]I did not see it coming that the Joker killed Bruce's parents. Of course that might be since he didn't in the various other interpretations. I'm also not sure if that actually happened or if Bruce was just inserting the Joker into his memory unconsciously. The Joker does confirm he killed them though, although I'm not sure how he could know this . Had he already figured out Barma's identity? I'm guessing this is something that has been debated before.


The picture quality was excellent. This is one of the better UHDs I have seen. You will definitely want this if you like the movie. The sound effects seemed fine to me, but of course it was my first time hearing them. Sucks if you're used to hearing them a different way though. (Some of you guys seem as intimately familiar with this movie as I am with Back to the Future! ). I agree they should have included both tracks. I'm still upset we don't have that for Terminator, as some of the new sound effects can actually affect your interpretation of the scenes.

I'm looking forward to watching the others in the next couple weeks!
Just like Adam West was Batman to the baby boomers, Michael Keaton is Batman to Gen Xers. Millennials have Christian Bale. Each brings something different to the role that resonated with it's audience at the time. Ranking them is pointless.
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It's possible Burton did not want it included.
There is no official word or confirmation on if Burton was even involved in these transfers at all whatsoever.
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There is no official word or confirmation on if Burton was even involved in these transfers at all whatsoever.
Yep and Digital Bits have contradicted themselves totally
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It's possible Burton did not want it included.
I’ll remind everyone that Donner wasn’t even aware that the extended version of Superman: The Movie had new sound effects. He was told that they were “enchanced,” which best describes what was done for the other three Batman films. In both these cases, they were outright changed.

Burton has been pretty adamant in the past about not wanting to change any of his previous works. He also doesn’t look back to fondly on making the film and obviously isn’t as attached to it as us fans are.
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Just like Adam West was Batman to the baby boomers, Michael Keaton is Batman to Gen Xers. Millennials have Christian Bale. Each brings something different to the role that resonated with it's audience at the time. Ranking them is pointless.
That's true. I might feel different if I saw this first.

I do think I prefer the Burton/Nicholson take on Joker better than the Nolan/Ledger take. They're both good though.
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