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Old 04-26-2009, 10:43 PM   #21
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OK I've got a question. Hunter's use "Deer Scent" to mask there own scent and to also attract deer. So, how about "Living Human Scent"? Say your getting chased by a zombie horde, just pull out a vial and throw it at the nearest zombie. Zombies being fairly stupid, would now "sense" a living human between them and you and should theoretically forget about you and go after them.




edit: Sorry, was just flipping through the channels and saw a commercial for this.

edit 2: The Deer Scent, not the Living Human Scent.

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Old 04-27-2009, 12:05 AM   #22
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OK I've got a question. Hunter's use "Deer Scent" to mask there own scent and to also attract deer. So, how about "Living Human Scent"? Say your getting chased by a zombie horde, just pull out a vial and throw it at the nearest zombie. Zombies being fairly stupid, would now "sense" a living human between them and you and should theoretically forget about you and go after them.
I always assumed it was more of a body heat thing, but who knows. But even if it is scent, do0 you think the right perfume will hide the scent of rotting flesh?
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Old 04-28-2009, 04:04 PM   #23
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I am not sure going to Wal-Mart would be a good idea. There would already be zombies wandering the aisles by the time you got there. Plus, you really think you would be the only one with that idea? Depending on how fast you could get there, the shelves could be cleared out and you may get trampled. If you have ever seen a city being evacuated or people getting ready to hunker down for a hurricane, you would know that stores are cleared out pretty quickly.

Also, what kind of zombie invasion are we talking about here? There are two particular kinds in the movies. One, where someone has to be infected to become a zombie or the other where all you have to do is die to come back and be a zombie. If it is the second and you are with a group of people, you would have to have a contingency plan in place incase someone dies due to medical reasons, accidentally or suicide. What happens if someone dies suddenly in the middle of the night?

As for waiting until the zombies starve to death, someone mentioned that zombies are already dead, so they can't starve to death, but will they continue to decompose? If that was the case, in reality, it would only be a matter of weeks before the original zombies were so decomposed that they would be immobilized. Unless there are more fresh dead people replacing them, I don't think an outbreak would last all that long, but you would still have to constantly be on the lookout for freshly dead people.

If we are talking a 28 Days Later or I Am Legend (movie, not book, because in the book they are vampires and that is a whole other story) you could wait until they starve to death, but how long before they do run out of food and die?

You can have a plan based on the experiences of other situations, but until it really happens, you have no idea what you are going to do and how you are going to handle it. What happens if the military comes in and rounds everyone up for their own safety? Would it really be safe?
Would anyone really be safe?
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Old 04-28-2009, 04:25 PM   #24
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to the hills...cabin on a island on the middle of a lake...plenty of fish..its cold...and I could grow out a hella nasty mountainman beard!!! That would be awesome.
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Old 04-28-2009, 06:03 PM   #25
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LOL!!! You can barely get ammo NOW, let alone in a zombie outbreak. Call your walmart and ask them if they have any 9mm ammo in stock, and if not when they will get some in

And Anti-gun states like California, New Jersey, Massachusetts and New York would spell death sentences for their unarmed population. Europe would be decimated within hours of patient zero hitting the sidewalk.

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Old 04-28-2009, 07:58 PM   #26
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LOL!!! You can barely get ammo NOW, let alone in a zombie outbreak. Call your walmart and ask them if they have any 9mm ammo in stock, and if not when they will get some in

And Anti-gun states like California, New Jersey, Massachusetts and New York would spell death sentences for their unarmed population. Europe would be decimated within hours of patient zero hitting the sidewalk.

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Single action rifles would be best in this type of situation depending on the type of zombie. 28 days infected would be best fought with semi/full auto weapons. Romero types with single action mid caliber rifles.

In World War Z they use single action .30 cal rifles with incindiary rounds.
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Single action rifles would be best in this type of situation depending on the type of zombie. 28 days infected would be best fought with semi/full auto weapons. Romero types with single action mid caliber rifles.

In World War Z they use single action .30 cal rifles with incindiary rounds.
In a zombie apocolypse, any gun is better than no gun...the 9mm ammo was just an example to show that there barely is any available now, and 9mm is probably the most popular/cheapest/usually easiset to find.

Rifles aren't always practical, but you do want to hit them when they're far away.

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Old 04-28-2009, 08:33 PM   #28
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In a zombie apocolypse, any gun is better than no gun...the 9mm ammo was just an example to show that there barely is any available now, and 9mm is probably the most popular/cheapest/usually easiset to find.

Rifles aren't always practical, but you do want to hit them when they're far away.

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Not just when they are far away. If they are in fact Romero zombies then you need to go for headshots and you would want them at a distance. You could empty an entire clip from an uzi and they might still come at you. One shot from a rifle with good sites and they are down.
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Not just when they are far away. If they are in fact Romero zombies then you need to go for headshots and you would want them at a distance. You could empty an entire clip from an uzi and they might still come at you. One shot from a rifle with good sites and they are down.
Just for the record, uzi's can fire a single shot too and most use 9mm rounds which have been known to explode a watermellon or two Heck, a simple .22 could even do the trick there.

Simply having a scope means nothing, unless it's been sighted in properly. And if you have it set for say 100 yards, it will cause you to miss the vital zombie shot at closer ranges if you don't compensate for distance. You could have the crosshairs directly on the Charles Manson forehead tattoo and wind up hitting the adams apple or chest instead.

But I'm pretty sure that all zombies require the headshots...Romero or not. Brain has to be destroyed and all that, because the parts are still animated so long as the brain is active. That might be the Living Dead series...don't recall.

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Old 04-28-2009, 11:18 PM   #30
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but will they continue to decompose? If that was the case, in reality, it would only be a matter of weeks before the original zombies were so decomposed that they would be immobilized
no idea, but my guess is that if they are not in the ground and walking around decomposition should be much slower. Most of the normal insects and stuff that are involved in decomposition don't go after stuff that moves.
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Old 04-29-2009, 12:05 AM   #31
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Just for the record, uzi's can fire a single shot too and most use 9mm rounds which have been known to explode a watermellon or two Heck, a simple .22 could even do the trick there.

Simply having a scope means nothing, unless it's been sighted in properly. And if you have it set for say 100 yards, it will cause you to miss the vital zombie shot at closer ranges if you don't compensate for distance. You could have the crosshairs directly on the Charles Manson forehead tattoo and wind up hitting the adams apple or chest instead.

But I'm pretty sure that all zombies require the headshots...Romero or not. Brain has to be destroyed and all that, because the parts are still animated so long as the brain is active. That might be the Living Dead series...don't recall.

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That was my original thought. A simple Ruger 10/22 with a few 50 rd. magazines is more than enough to take out zombies. You just need a headshot. And by using a small round like a .22 LR you can really load up on some rounds and not take up that much space. Now for taking out large groups of zombies I recommend one of these:

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Just keep some distance, I imagine it would get pretty messy.
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Old 04-29-2009, 12:11 AM   #32
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That was my original thought. A simple Ruger 10/22 with a few 50 rd. magazines is more than enough to take out zombies. You just need a headshot. And by using a small round like a .22 LR you can really load up on some rounds and not take up that much space. Now for taking out large groups of zombies I recommend one of these:

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Just keep some distance, I imagine it would get pretty messy.
if you are close you'll need one of these...




...great sugestion rob of this weapon versus zombies!
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Old 04-29-2009, 12:46 AM   #33
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man oh man, i forgot about this thread.

anyways great suggestion guys. i guess i was talking more or less about zombies infected and all, and not the 'walking from the grave' kinda zombie.

i have to rethink my walmart strategy then. probably end up rethinking a lot of other things. about robntami, well, boats are close to his/her location, here its not that easy to access them. again, its a hypothetical thingy that ive tried to keep this as realistic as possible. not setting boundaries or rules or what not, just something to keep focus on so to speak.

so, lets say guns or ammo are not an option, care to shed some light on a good medium range weapon? machetes anyone? chainsaw? da vincis chariot?

keep it up folks.
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so, lets say guns or ammo are not an option, care to shed some light on a good medium range weapon? machetes anyone? chainsaw? da vincis chariot?
Kukris would be excellent mid range weapons. 18"-21" ones can easily lop off limbs and heads.
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Old 04-29-2009, 01:32 AM   #35
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Since guns are out, let's see. A compound bow can be fairly effective at medium range. Molotov cocktails, easy to make and fairly effective. Explosives are fairly easy to make with household supplies. Add some nails, nuts and bolts or almost anything and you can make improvised grenades. A little bit of planning, and you can make some cool booby-traps.
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Old 04-29-2009, 01:36 AM   #36
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How come in Zombie movies we never really see guns with lasers attached to them? That'd make the killing a lot easier, wouldn't you think?
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just thought of this, assuming it is possible, ransack a museum. Get suit of armour (I would like to see them bite through that), sword/axe (near), spear (medium), bow/ crossbow (far)

chainsaws are good, but he issue is, except for in movies, they run out of gas pretty fast.
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Not just when they are far away. If they are in fact Romero zombies then you need to go for headshots and you would want them at a distance. You could empty an entire clip from an uzi and they might still come at you. One shot from a rifle with good sites and they are down.
Major nitpicking but the actual name is a magazine not a clip. The clip is what puts the bullets in the magazine. One of the only guns to actually use a clip is the M1 Garand.
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Kukris would be excellent mid range weapons. 18"-21" ones can easily lop off limbs and heads.
Isn't that what Milla Jovovich had in Resident Evil: Extinction?
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no idea, but my guess is that if they are not in the ground and walking around decomposition should be much slower. Most of the normal insects and stuff that are involved in decomposition don't go after stuff that moves.
Did you see "Life After People" last week? Even the mummies in museums in Egypt would decompose due to mold and bacteria within months if the power ever went out and their environment controlled cases shut off and those people have been dead thousands of years. You would think that mummies would simply stay the way the were. Things in the body just continue to breakdown without the help of insects and such anyway.
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