Bill Maher is 'Religulous'

[scrumptious]

Any hopes for a sequel? Maybe the pope will agree to an interview for a sequel. I wish that woman who plays that nerd with the glasses on 24 is interviewed too.

I haven't seen it yet ... I am waiting for it to appear on blu. I saw a Best Buy promotional ad which said it was going to be on blu but that was a long while ago and the date went by and nothing happened. Probably a misprint.

[WyldeMan45]

Originally Posted by scrumptious

Any hopes for a sequel? Maybe the pope will agree to an interview for a sequel. I wish that woman who plays that nerd with the glasses on 24 is interviewed too.

I haven't seen it yet ... I am waiting for it to appear on blu. I saw a Best Buy promotional ad which said it was going to be on blu but that was a long while ago and the date went by and nothing happened. Probably a misprint.

Don't really think it needs a sequel the first one was way too perfect and got the point across more than enough. Though a sequel of the Holy Land Experience may be worth it, just for the screaming lady running by behind Jesus during the interview, lol. What about the nerd from 24 is she a jesus freak or a rational thinker like us?

[toef]

I'll be honest, I hate Bill Maher, but I still enjoy watching his show, so I was looking forward to this movie. I was surprised at how fair/understanding he tried to be in the movie, whereas on his show he seems to try to belittle or mock religion any chance he gets.

The highlight of the movie was Reggie Foster, the Vatican scholar/Latinist guy.

[andyman1970]

Originally Posted by WyldeMan45

Don't really think it needs a sequel the first one was way too perfect and got the point across more than enough. Though a sequel of the Holy Land Experience may be worth it, just for the screaming lady running by behind Jesus during the interview, lol. What about the nerd from 24 is she a jesus freak or a rational thinker like us?

Where's the rationality in thinking the universe and all of life on Earth just happened by chance because of a BIG BANG? Because that's what you were taught in Science class? The theory of Evolution is just a theory because Science has yet to find any real evidence to support it. Do you honestly believe that all creatures evolved from tadpoles? If that is true then why don't we see this process of evolution continue today? Why haven't we as man evolved in to something higher by now? Look around at the trees, the animals and the stars. Think about how everything is perfectly placed with the sun in the center, the planets orbiting around it and the moons orbiting around the planets. Think about how the trees provide oxygen and plants and animal life provide nourishment for our bodies. How could all of this just happen by chance? There has to be a Divine Creators hand at work here. And the truly intelligent and rational thinking person would see that.

[statikcat]

Originally Posted by andyman1970

Where's the rationality in thinking the universe and all of life on Earth just happened by chance because of a BIG BANG? Because that's what you were taught in Science class? The theory of Evolution is just a theory because Science has yet to find any real evidence to support it. Do you honestly believe that all creatures evolved from tadpoles? If that is true then why don't we see this process of evolution continue today? Why haven't we as man evolved in to something higher by now? Look around at the trees, the animals and the stars. Think about how everything is perfectly placed with the sun in the center, the planets orbiting around it and the moons orbiting around the planets. Think about how the trees provide oxygen and plants and animal life provide nourishment for our bodies. How could all of this just happen by chance? There has to be a Divine Creators hand at work here. And the truly intelligent and rational thinking person would see that.

Just because someone is not religious does not mean they support or fully believe evolution. Imo it is contradicting to support one idea and say the other is dumb. They both require faith to some degree.

Originally Posted by WyldeMan45

Did you like that in his entire film and all the interviews he did, not one person had a single intelligent rebuttal or even one single reason as to why the believe in what they do?

This is called editing 101..

[mjbethancourt]

Originally Posted by andyman1970

Where's the rationality in thinking the universe and all of life on Earth just happened by chance because of a BIG BANG? Because that's what you were taught in Science class? The theory of Evolution is just a theory because Science has yet to find any real evidence to support it. Do you honestly believe that all creatures evolved from tadpoles? If that is true then why don't we see this process of evolution continue today? Why haven't we as man evolved in to something higher by now? Look around at the trees, the animals and the stars. Think about how everything is perfectly placed with the sun in the center, the planets orbiting around it and the moons orbiting around the planets. Think about how the trees provide oxygen and plants and animal life provide nourishment for our bodies. How could all of this just happen by chance? There has to be a Divine Creators hand at work here. And the truly intelligent and rational thinking person would see that.

Please, stop. You're embarrassing yourself, and you're embarrassing the other religious people. If you can't defend your faith without making childish attacks on science, that's a problem you should keep to yourself.

[jadedeath]

Originally Posted by andyman1970

Where's the rationality in thinking the universe and all of life on Earth just happened by chance because of a BIG BANG? Because that's what you were taught in Science class? The theory of Evolution is just a theory because Science has yet to find any real evidence to support it. Do you honestly believe that all creatures evolved from tadpoles? If that is true then why don't we see this process of evolution continue today? Why haven't we as man evolved in to something higher by now? Look around at the trees, the animals and the stars. Think about how everything is perfectly placed with the sun in the center, the planets orbiting around it and the moons orbiting around the planets. Think about how the trees provide oxygen and plants and animal life provide nourishment for our bodies. How could all of this just happen by chance? There has to be a Divine Creators hand at work here. And the truly intelligent and rational thinking person would see that.

You must remember friend, that just because we have been touched by the noodley appendage of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, it doesn't mean that we must belittle the faith or beliefs of others.

Logan

[Hep]

Originally Posted by andyman1970

Where's the rationality in thinking the universe and all of life on Earth just happened by chance because of a BIG BANG? Because that's what you were taught in Science class? The theory of Evolution is just a theory because Science has yet to find any real evidence to support it. Do you honestly believe that all creatures evolved from tadpoles? If that is true then why don't we see this process of evolution continue today? Why haven't we as man evolved in to something higher by now? Look around at the trees, the animals and the stars. Think about how everything is perfectly placed with the sun in the center, the planets orbiting around it and the moons orbiting around the planets. Think about how the trees provide oxygen and plants and animal life provide nourishment for our bodies. How could all of this just happen by chance? There has to be a Divine Creators hand at work here. And the truly intelligent and rational thinking person would see that.

It amazes me every time I hear statements like this. Unfortunately, it is a clear sign of a broken educational system that would allow misconceptions like that to flourish. This is not the place to debate the merits of science or religion, but I really can't stay silent when statements so scientifically challenged are made. Please continue to believe what you want, but just know that there is a magnificent and beautiful world of scientific knowledge out there if you want to raise your consciousness.

As an aside, I haven't seen this movie yet; I missed it in the theatre so I'm waiting for news of a BD release, either domestic or for import. Really looking forward to hearing the arguments.

[Hep]

It amazes me every time I hear statements like this. Unfortunately, it is a clear sign of a broken educational system that would allow misconceptions like that to flourish.

Discussions that are eerily similar to this thread are happening in real time within Texas' Board of Education; sadly, but not surprisingly, there isn't much in the way of opposition. I'm sure Bill Maher will have a field day with this one: "Texas is only 6000 years old" (source Discovery Magazine)

[bluRazor]

Originally Posted by andyman1970

Where's the rationality in thinking the universe and all of life on Earth just happened by chance because of a BIG BANG? Because that's what you were taught in Science class? The theory of Evolution is just a theory because Science has yet to find any real evidence to support it. Do you honestly believe that all creatures evolved from tadpoles? If that is true then why don't we see this process of evolution continue today? Why haven't we as man evolved in to something higher by now? Look around at the trees, the animals and the stars. Think about how everything is perfectly placed with the sun in the center, the planets orbiting around it and the moons orbiting around the planets. Think about how the trees provide oxygen and plants and animal life provide nourishment for our bodies. How could all of this just happen by chance? There has to be a Divine Creators hand at work here. And the truly intelligent and rational thinking person would see that.

ever get the flu? ever get it again? thats because it evolved since your body developed an immunity to it. that doesnt prove that god doesnt exist. it just prove that some people shouldve paid more attention in grade school.

[Liberal Hippie]

Originally Posted by andyman1970

Where's the rationality in thinking the universe and all of life on Earth just happened by chance because of a BIG BANG? Because that's what you were taught in Science class? The theory of Evolution is just a theory because Science has yet to find any real evidence to support it. Do you honestly believe that all creatures evolved from tadpoles? If that is true then why don't we see this process of evolution continue today? Why haven't we as man evolved in to something higher by now? Look around at the trees, the animals and the stars. Think about how everything is perfectly placed with the sun in the center, the planets orbiting around it and the moons orbiting around the planets. Think about how the trees provide oxygen and plants and animal life provide nourishment for our bodies. How could all of this just happen by chance? There has to be a Divine Creators hand at work here. And the truly intelligent and rational thinking person would see that.

The Devine Creators are Aliens from another world...we are here for their amusment.

[Sammy]

Originally Posted by andyman1970

Where's the rationality in thinking the universe and all of life on Earth just happened by chance because of a BIG BANG? Because that's what you were taught in Science class? The theory of Evolution is just a theory because Science has yet to find any real evidence to support it. Do you honestly believe that all creatures evolved from tadpoles? If that is true then why don't we see this process of evolution continue today? Why haven't we as man evolved in to something higher by now? Look around at the trees, the animals and the stars. Think about how everything is perfectly placed with the sun in the center, the planets orbiting around it and the moons orbiting around the planets. Think about how the trees provide oxygen and plants and animal life provide nourishment for our bodies. How could all of this just happen by chance? There has to be a Divine Creators hand at work here. And the truly intelligent and rational thinking person would see that.

Um, that's called gravity.

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by andyman1970

Where's the rationality in thinking the universe and all of life on Earth just happened by chance because of a BIG BANG? Because that's what you were taught in Science class? The theory of Evolution is just a theory because Science has yet to find any real evidence to support it. Do you honestly believe that all creatures evolved from tadpoles? If that is true then why don't we see this process of evolution continue today? Why haven't we as man evolved in to something higher by now? Look around at the trees, the animals and the stars. Think about how everything is perfectly placed with the sun in the center, the planets orbiting around it and the moons orbiting around the planets. Think about how the trees provide oxygen and plants and animal life provide nourishment for our bodies. How could all of this just happen by chance? There has to be a Divine Creators hand at work here. And the truly intelligent and rational thinking person would see that.

People who don't understand evolution (biological or cosmological) have no concept of the scale of time over which it occurs.

Define 1 PL (person lifetime) = 100 years

Christ born 20 PL ago
Human history is 50 PL
Human civilisation is 120 PL
Modern humans first appeared about 500 PL ago

The dinosaurs disappeared 650,000 PL ago
Multi-cellular life appeared 7,000,000 PL ago
Life on earth began 37,000,000 PL ago
Earth formed 46,000,000 PL ago
The Sun formed 100,000,000 PL ago
The Universe is 140,000,000 PL old

I expect you're not prepared to open your mind to the possibility it is true.

Gary

[xtop]

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

I expect you're not prepared to open your mind to the possibility it is true.

Gary

even if its true, it proves nothing.

[pEgLeG]

One of the things that actually shocked me was: How irrational the head of the human genome project was. First he states that the bible was "written by people who personally eye witnessed Christ", then when that was shot down he changes up to "practically eye witnessed via interviewing eyewitnesses", then to "would you really expect anyone that eye witnessed him to make a written account of him?" and "wouldn't you expect there to be all kinds of contradictions in a true story of this magnitude?" I wonder if this guy would maybe intentionally hinder the project he leads for fear that it would contradict his irrational belief system. His behavior in the film would suggest that this is possible of him.

[scrumptious]

Originally Posted by pEgLeG

One of the things that actually shocked me was: How irrational the head of the human genome project was. First he states that the bible was "written by people who personally eye witnessed Christ", then when that was shot down he changes up to "practically eye witnessed via interviewing eyewitnesses", then to "would you really expect anyone that eye witnessed him to make a written account of him?" and "wouldn't you expect there to be all kinds of contradictions in a true story of this magnitude?" I wonder if this guy would maybe intentionally hinder the project he leads for fear that it would contradict his irrational belief system. His behavior in the film would suggest that this is possible of him.

omg, they need to replace the head of the human gnome project with a more rational person.

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by xtop

even if its true, it proves nothing.

Proves nothing about what?

Some actually see the grandeur in elevating Him from a tyrannical cosmological and biological engineer to the unfathomable genius that could cause a Big Bang of such subtle design and execution that it would lead inevitably to stars, Sun, Earth, life and humans 14 billion years later.

I've never understood why the devout seem to want to minimize Him.

[xtop]

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

Proves nothing about what?

Some actually see the grandeur in elevating Him from a tyrannical cosmological and biological engineer to the unfathomable genius that could cause a Big Bang of such subtle design and execution that it would lead inevitably to stars, Sun, Earth, life and humans 14 billion years later.

I've never understood why the devout seem to want to minimize Him.

thats what i meant. evolution can be real and still have religion. the presence or lack of evolution changes nothing imo

[toef]

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

Define 1 PL (person lifetime) = 100 years

...

The Universe is 140,000,000 PL old

Nice numbers. I agree that people, in general, have a hard time really understanding vast amounts of time, or large numbers. It's not a slight against anyone in particular... it's just something humans in general have problems with.

With the recession and bailouts going on, lots of huge numbers get thrown around, but a lot of people tend to not really understand how big these numbers are. A million is a lot, sure. A billion is more, sure... but how much more relative to a million? A trillion... that seems like a lot, but how much bigger than a billion is it?

A person can remember what they were doing 1 million seconds ago, because that was just under 12 days ago.

A person can't remember what they were doing 1 billion seconds ago, because it was 32 years ago (so some people weren't even alive).

Nobody in the world knows what was going on 1 trillion seconds ago, because that was 32,000 years ago.

[Sammy]

Originally Posted by andyman1970

Where's the rationality in thinking the universe and all of life on Earth just happened by chance because of a BIG BANG? Because that's what you were taught in Science class? The theory of Evolution is just a theory because Science has yet to find any real evidence to support it. Do you honestly believe that all creatures evolved from tadpoles? If that is true then why don't we see this process of evolution continue today? Why haven't we as man evolved in to something higher by now? Look around at the trees, the animals and the stars. Think about how everything is perfectly placed with the sun in the center, the planets orbiting around it and the moons orbiting around the planets. Think about how the trees provide oxygen and plants and animal life provide nourishment for our bodies. How could all of this just happen by chance? There has to be a Divine Creators hand at work here. And the truly intelligent and rational thinking person would see that.

As to evidence, you have actually presented none in support of your hypothesis.