The Subtitle Debate

[koontz1973]

Original with subtitles that are done well.

[Moviefan1203]

Originally Posted by Romulus

Original language with subtitles, anything else is blasphemy!

I agree completely. If you don't understand the native language of the film, put the subtitles on. There is never a need for dubbing. I want to find out who actually voted for dubbing, let's sniff them out! I'll get the pitchforks and torches!

[Iron-Blu-123]

Original language with subtitles.

[Jeremy1983]

I demand that the 4 of you who voted for "dubbed" to defend your vote. We will be respectful, I promise

[mikejet]

Originally Posted by Jeremy1983

I demand that the 4 of you who voted for "dubbed" to defend your vote. We will be respectful, I promise

I'd rather hear from the two that voted for the last choice

[Jeremy1983]

Originally Posted by mikejet

I'd rather hear from the two that voted for the last choice

Trolling for sure.

[GLaDOS]

Originally Posted by Romulus

Original language with subtitles, anything else is blasphemy!

+1

Me no rike teh dub. Es horribel!

[fatediesel]

I can't watched dubbed movies, they give me a headache and they look and sound like crap. I won't watch a dubbed movie.

[Rob71]

Originally Posted by Romulus

Original language with subtitles, anything else is blasphemy!

Agree 100%. I haven't watched a dubbed foriegn film since the old Black Belt Theater on UHF back in the early 80's. Man those movies were great. Even dubbed.

[CZAR]

The best and most classic dubbed movies will always be those karate movies back in the late 70's and early 80's with and without Bruce Lee! Classic! Got Em!!

[Rob71]

Originally Posted by CZAR

The best and most classic dubbed movies will always be those karate movies back in the late 70's and early 80's with and without Bruce Lee! Classic! Got Em!!

Do you remember a show in the mid 80's called Mad Movies? They took old movies and dubbed in new dialog. I sort of remember a Shirley Temple one that was hillarious.

[GOAT]

I like to watch a dubbed version... then right after watch it in the original language with english subs... helps me understand the story better. But there have been some great films I have only watched in original language

[Brandon]

I voted dubbed, why would I want to read when I watch a movie if I wanted to read I'd read a book or something lol

[Marcusarilius]

My only exception to watching dubbed movies include the Godzilla and Chinese Karate films of the 60s and 70s. I love watching how bad it is to try and match these languages with english. (mouth has stopped moving, but the diologue continues)

Hard to beat that kind of entertainment!

[Terjyn]

I, for one, can't believe so many people said "Original w/Subtitles" over it depends.

If it's a movie I own and can watch freely, definitely subtitles.

If I have one crack at a movie, I miss a lot of the picture if I'm reading the subtitles, especially if they are of rapid speech. You aren't really seeing the movie if you spend half of it reading. This is especially true for Animation.

Of course I guess this isn't really "It depends on the movie" so much as "it depends on the situation".

[Afrobean]

Originally Posted by surfdude12

even if you cant understand the language, the vocal deflections and tone are critical to conveying emotion. some hired schmuck who does dubbed language has no idea who the character is. in the end, you haven't seen the film, just some hogwash.

Sometimes a dub can work excellently. Examples I like to give are FLCL and Fullmetal Alchemist. Both have terrific dubs. I will normally choose to watch subtitled in Japanese even for these, but the dub is definitely very watchable.

FMA even makes sense to be in English, because they are ostensibly speaking English in the show. All text is in English and it is definitely a Western European sort of country that the story takes place in.

And for FLCL, they even went to the trouble of including some of the Japanese creative staff in finding English voice talent who would match what the had already Japanese delivered. Haruko and Mamimi are especially good at nailing it in my opinion.

Originally Posted by Moviefan1203

There is never a need for dubbing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubbing_(filmmaking)

ADR.

Also: Spaghetti Westerns.

[ManUtd]

Of course only the original language with subtitles.

[surfdude12]

Originally Posted by Afrobean

Sometimes a dub can work excellently. Examples I like to give are FLCL and Fullmetal Alchemist. Both have terrific dubs. I will normally choose to watch subtitled in Japanese even for these, but the dub is definitely very watchable.

FMA even makes sense to be in English, because they are ostensibly speaking English in the show. All text is in English and it is definitely a Western European sort of country that the story takes place in.

And for FLCL, they even went to the trouble of including some of the Japanese creative staff in finding English voice talent who would match what the had already Japanese delivered. Haruko and Mamimi are especially good at nailing it in my opinion.
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you seem to be making the "its not so bad" argument, which i'd agree with if we had no other option. but we do: original language + subs.

[Meeklo]

Originally Posted by BrandonT

I voted dubbed, why would I want to read when I watch a movie if I wanted to read I'd read a book or something lol

This was my original arguement. But there are some exceptions.

I haven't seen Passion of the Christ, but I do like the idea of them speaking Hebrew. It's more faithful.

And speaking of faithful....as I mention before on an Inglourious Basterds thread (which I'm guessing is where the OP of this thread got the idea of creating this thread) does everyone expect the Germans and French to be speaking English during WWII?

I do like subtitles when someone is speaking in a foreign language and it's either historically or geographically accurate. (Besides....how weird would it have been if every alien/creature/robot in Star Wars spoke English?

[surfdude12]

Originally Posted by BrandonT

I voted dubbed, why would I want to read when I watch a movie if I wanted to read I'd read a book or something lol

wow Brandon, i have to say i'm a little shocked. however, a lot of my buddies still detest subs and i did for a while. i felt the way you did, but then i actually sat down and watched a film with subs on. and guess what i realized? after about 5 mins into the film, i didnt even realize i was reading + it was WAY more engrossing hearing the natural language