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mjbethancourt · 10-28-2010, 02:51 AM

I'm acting dumb?

Cool. If that's what you want to call it when somebody calls you on hyperbole and falsehoods, then fine, I'm the dumbest guy around.

Josh5890 · 10-28-2010, 03:05 AM

All I know is this, it's going to be a long year waiting. My plan is to not watch any of them again until the blu-ray version comes out.

rexcrk · 10-28-2010, 02:01 PM

^^^ I wouldn't be able to do that! lol. I always watch Star Wars multiple times a year, I couldn't go a whole year without watching them lol (at least, the original trilogy... I don't watch the prequels all that often

)

BellesPrince · 10-28-2010, 06:01 PM

It makes me laugh when people tell others not to act dumb, yet they can't even spell.

mjbethancourt · 10-28-2010, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BellesPrince

It makes me laugh when people tell others not to act dumb, yet they can't even spell.

...or figure out how to properly embed a quote, or use punctuation.

RudyC · 10-29-2010, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mjbethancourt

...or figure out how to properly embed a quote, or use punctuation.

lol i used the green tint so the whole post would get shown... if you press quote, only half the stuff gets quoted... im not going to spend 30min using the proper syntax to get everything in the correct manner.. blu-ray.com is broken.

BellesPrince · 10-29-2010, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RudyC

lol i used the green tint so the whole post would get shown... if you press quote, only half the stuff gets quoted... im not going to spend 30min using the proper syntax to get everything in the correct manner.. blu-ray.com is broken.

How about going back to school to learn how to spell and to use proper grammar? That might be a start.

mjbethancourt · 10-29-2010, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RudyC

lol i used the green tint so the whole post would get shown... if you press quote, only half the stuff gets quoted... im not going to spend 30min using the proper syntax to get everything in the correct manner.. blu-ray.com is broken.

Funny, I've never had a problem with it. Doesn't seem to be too much trouble for anyone else, either. Blu-ray.com is neither broken, nor difficult to use.

STARKILLER--1138 · 10-30-2010, 04:05 AM

Wow! De hateraid iz be-ing cunsumed n masssss quantitties twoday .?!()

BellesPrince · 10-30-2010, 07:32 AM

I just always feel that people who can't type, spell, or construct a sentence properly, ultimately invalidate their argument.

vegeta88 · 10-30-2010, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh5890

All I know is this, it's going to be a long year waiting. My plan is to not watch any of them again until the blu-ray version comes out.

Same here! I was going to do the same for Jurassic Park, but it was the choice by majority and ... sometimes it is hard to turn down a good movie

RudyC · 10-30-2010, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BellesPrince

I just always feel that people who can't type, spell, or construct a sentence properly, ultimately invalidate their argument.

lol... if you want me to take a spelling test. i'll pass with flying colors. grammar i might get a B or something..

also

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjbethancourt

Funny, I've never had a problem with it. Doesn't seem to be too much trouble for anyone else, either. Blu-ray.com is neither broken, nor difficult to use.

yes you do have a problem with it. your post #4228. pressing quote only shows what the other person said..not what you had said prior. most other forums do this correctly.. but not blu-ray.com.

Chiyo_chichi · 10-31-2010, 04:43 AM

I know there's nothing to talk about bluray wise, but maybe we should at least keep things related to star wars

...

marvinski · 11-06-2010, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiyo_chichi

I know there's nothing to talk about bluray wise, but maybe we should at least keep things related to star wars

...

a wise one he is!

JoshKelhoffer · 11-06-2010, 12:45 PM

Going to chime in on the whole Original vs. Special Edition debacle.

The original is clearly a better film, but not because some of the effects were later replaced, but because the additions were cartoonish crap. In one scene, an annoying droid flies in the background, makes a few beeps, distracts the audience from the dialogue, and leaves. What was the point of that? It was silly and dumb. If you like that kind of thing, that's cool (well, no it isn't actually), but understand that additions like these are:

a) annoying

b) pointless

c) distracting

Almost every addition to the Mos Eisley sequence was on par with the juvenile crap you found on Nickelodian at the time. It takes many of us out of the film, because for a few small seconds, it feels like we are watching the antics found from the live action Scooby Doo movies that came out a few years after the Special Edition releases.

The Jabba the Hut sequence was completely unnecessary. At the time, it was pretty cool to see deleted footage from Star Wars, but the scene a storytelling nightmare. The information is redundant. It kills the pacing of the sequence. The part where Han steps on the tale is idiotic. The movie works better without the scene, and it makes the reveal of the character in ROTJ both more dramatic and more consistent.

The dance number. The Holiday Special is more bearable than that. The song sucks, and the moment where the slave girl turns on her master is completely lost to it.

And yes, it would be nice to have a decent quality editions of both versions. The criticism of this is not that the Special Edition exists, but that unlike Spielberg's E.T. or Ridley Scott's Alien or Cameron's The Abyss, the audience hasn't been treated to both editions in equal quality. Most of us just want to see the original editions in anamorphic.

There's also artistic integrity that goes far beyond "the crappy mask was replaced by crappy CGI."

Beast · 11-06-2010, 01:27 PM

I couldn't disagree more. The additions to Mos Eisley make it a much more active and living city. Where as before, it seemed exactly what it was... a set. A set with not enough money or extras to really convey the feel of a real living and breathing city. Yes, there are some fun little additions to the scene, like the aformentioned droid or the bucking Ronto. But the Star Wars films have always had their lighthearted moments. So it didn't seem out of place.

Gotta disagree with you on the inclusion of Jabba the Hutt also. Especially since the scene was always meant to be included, but time and money issues required it being removed before the stop motion Jabba could be included. Sure some of the dialogue is repeated from the meeting with Greedo. But it's not as redundant and unneccessay as you claim it to be. As for the tail scene, I can somewhat agree to that. But given Jabba wasn't designed at the time, it's the only way of using the footage without replacing Harrison Ford entirely with a CGI figure to better fit the scene.

Sorry. Never going to agree with anyone on the RotJ dance number being bad. Lapti Nek was mediocre at best. And the Sy Snootles puppet never worked right and just screamed puppet. Where as Yoda and others in ESB and RotJ never looked that badly fake. The replacement with the CGI Sy and the more spirited musical number just seemed to feel more real. Also made Jabba's Den of Thieves feel more wild and alive.

I frankly applaud Lucas for not giving in to a few shouting fanboys, and rather choosing to satisfy his own artistic desires.

Oateyboat · 11-06-2010, 02:35 PM

Don't know if anyone's seen this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVjTB...eature=related

Best advert I've seen in a while

KubrickFan · 11-06-2010, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beast

Gotta disagree with you on the inclusion of Jabba the Hutt also. Especially since the scene was always meant to be included, but time and money issues required it being removed before the stop motion Jabba could be included. Sure some of the dialogue is repeated from the meeting with Greedo. But it's not as redundant and unneccessay as you claim it to be. As for the tail scene, I can somewhat agree to that. But given Jabba wasn't designed at the time, it's the only way of using the footage without replacing Harrison Ford entirely with a CGI figure to better fit the scene.

Well, when Lucas cut the sequence, he rewrote the dialogue from the Greedo scene to incorporate the information given in the Jabba scene. So, it's now unnecessary, and the unconvincing new effects don't really help either.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beast

Sorry. Never going to agree with anyone on the RotJ dance number being bad. Lapti Nek was mediocre at best. And the Sy Snootles puppet never worked right and just screamed puppet. Where as Yoda and others in ESB and RotJ never looked that badly fake. The replacement with the CGI Sy and the more spirited musical number just seemed to feel more real. Also made Jabba's Den of Thieves feel more wild and alive.

The problem with replacing the effects is that while the original effects might look fake, the new ones stand out even more. The type of CG used simply doesn't belong in an early 80's movie. It looks completely unconvincing and over the top.

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Originally Posted by Beast

I frankly applaud Lucas for not giving in to a few shouting fanboys, and rather choosing to satisfy his own artistic desires.

And what might those be? It doesn't really help if he keeps altering the movies, even though he would have had the chance to do them 'right' with the SEs of 1997.

high def ho! · 11-06-2010, 06:50 PM

You guys just have to agree to disagree. Some people, myself included, would like to see the original trilogy done right. I watch those crappy bonus feature discs all the time, and when I pop in the special editions and see the unaltered scenes, I know that Lucas has the money and the right people to give the original releases the treatment and care they deserve. I also see that some people enjoy the special editions, maybe you saw those first or like the cg mixed in with 70s/80s film. That's your prerogative. But the fighting and name calling doesn't really help, does it?
I'm down to see an Ultimate Bluray set that features both. That's where I will spend my money. If not, Lucas won't see a dime, no big deal. Plus, I can always just go watch Star Wars Revisited for a spectacular version of the OG trilogy.
So just make your point with your dollars.

D_M · 11-06-2010, 06:52 PM

I'd like to see both versions of the original trilogy on the set as well.

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10-28-2010, 02:51 AM	#4221
mjbethancourt Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2008 Location:suburban fly-over USA 4K collection:15 Blu-ray collection:876	I'm acting dumb? Cool. If that's what you want to call it when somebody calls you on hyperbole and falsehoods, then fine, I'm the dumbest guy around.

10-28-2010, 03:05 AM	#4222
Josh5890 Power Member Member since:Apr 2010 Location:Mokena, IL 4K collection:39 Blu-ray collection:601 Trading Score:26	All I know is this, it's going to be a long year waiting. My plan is to not watch any of them again until the blu-ray version comes out.

10-28-2010, 02:01 PM	#4223
rexcrk Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Aug 2010 4K collection:265 Blu-ray collection:585 DVD collection:235	^^^ I wouldn't be able to do that! lol. I always watch Star Wars multiple times a year, I couldn't go a whole year without watching them lol (at least, the original trilogy... I don't watch the prequels all that often )

10-28-2010, 06:01 PM	#4224
BellesPrince Banned Member since:Apr 2009 Blu-ray collection:153	It makes me laugh when people tell others not to act dumb, yet they can't even spell.

10-30-2010, 04:05 AM	#4229
STARKILLER--1138 Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jan 2008	Wow! De hateraid iz be-ing cunsumed n masssss quantitties twoday .?!()

10-30-2010, 07:32 AM	#4230
BellesPrince Banned Member since:Apr 2009 Blu-ray collection:153	I just always feel that people who can't type, spell, or construct a sentence properly, ultimately invalidate their argument.

10-31-2010, 04:43 AM	#4233
Chiyo_chichi Power Member Member since:Jul 2009 Location:Bayonne, NJ, USA Blu-ray collection:40	I know there's nothing to talk about bluray wise, but maybe we should at least keep things related to star wars ...

11-06-2010, 12:45 PM	#4235
JoshKelhoffer Active Member Member since:May 2009	Going to chime in on the whole Original vs. Special Edition debacle. The original is clearly a better film, but not because some of the effects were later replaced, but because the additions were cartoonish crap. In one scene, an annoying droid flies in the background, makes a few beeps, distracts the audience from the dialogue, and leaves. What was the point of that? It was silly and dumb. If you like that kind of thing, that's cool (well, no it isn't actually), but understand that additions like these are: a) annoying b) pointless c) distracting Almost every addition to the Mos Eisley sequence was on par with the juvenile crap you found on Nickelodian at the time. It takes many of us out of the film, because for a few small seconds, it feels like we are watching the antics found from the live action Scooby Doo movies that came out a few years after the Special Edition releases. The Jabba the Hut sequence was completely unnecessary. At the time, it was pretty cool to see deleted footage from Star Wars, but the scene a storytelling nightmare. The information is redundant. It kills the pacing of the sequence. The part where Han steps on the tale is idiotic. The movie works better without the scene, and it makes the reveal of the character in ROTJ both more dramatic and more consistent. The dance number. The Holiday Special is more bearable than that. The song sucks, and the moment where the slave girl turns on her master is completely lost to it. And yes, it would be nice to have a decent quality editions of both versions. The criticism of this is not that the Special Edition exists, but that unlike Spielberg's E.T. or Ridley Scott's Alien or Cameron's The Abyss, the audience hasn't been treated to both editions in equal quality. Most of us just want to see the original editions in anamorphic. There's also artistic integrity that goes far beyond "the crappy mask was replaced by crappy CGI."

11-06-2010, 01:27 PM	#4236
Beast Blu-ray Champion Member since:Feb 2008 Blu-ray collection:376 Blu-ray reviews:3	I couldn't disagree more. The additions to Mos Eisley make it a much more active and living city. Where as before, it seemed exactly what it was... a set. A set with not enough money or extras to really convey the feel of a real living and breathing city. Yes, there are some fun little additions to the scene, like the aformentioned droid or the bucking Ronto. But the Star Wars films have always had their lighthearted moments. So it didn't seem out of place. Gotta disagree with you on the inclusion of Jabba the Hutt also. Especially since the scene was always meant to be included, but time and money issues required it being removed before the stop motion Jabba could be included. Sure some of the dialogue is repeated from the meeting with Greedo. But it's not as redundant and unneccessay as you claim it to be. As for the tail scene, I can somewhat agree to that. But given Jabba wasn't designed at the time, it's the only way of using the footage without replacing Harrison Ford entirely with a CGI figure to better fit the scene. Sorry. Never going to agree with anyone on the RotJ dance number being bad. Lapti Nek was mediocre at best. And the Sy Snootles puppet never worked right and just screamed puppet. Where as Yoda and others in ESB and RotJ never looked that badly fake. The replacement with the CGI Sy and the more spirited musical number just seemed to feel more real. Also made Jabba's Den of Thieves feel more wild and alive. I frankly applaud Lucas for not giving in to a few shouting fanboys, and rather choosing to satisfy his own artistic desires.

11-06-2010, 02:35 PM	#4237
Oateyboat Special Member Member since:Feb 2009 Location:England, UK 4K collection:139 Blu-ray collection:406 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:4	Don't know if anyone's seen this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVjTB...eature=related Best advert I've seen in a while

11-06-2010, 06:50 PM	#4239
high def ho! Member Member since:Oct 2010 Location:la la land Blu-ray collection:48	You guys just have to agree to disagree. Some people, myself included, would like to see the original trilogy done right. I watch those crappy bonus feature discs all the time, and when I pop in the special editions and see the unaltered scenes, I know that Lucas has the money and the right people to give the original releases the treatment and care they deserve. I also see that some people enjoy the special editions, maybe you saw those first or like the cg mixed in with 70s/80s film. That's your prerogative. But the fighting and name calling doesn't really help, does it? I'm down to see an Ultimate Bluray set that features both. That's where I will spend my money. If not, Lucas won't see a dime, no big deal. Plus, I can always just go watch Star Wars Revisited for a spectacular version of the OG trilogy. So just make your point with your dollars.

11-06-2010, 06:52 PM	#4240
D_M Power Member Member since:Apr 2009 Location:Canada Blu-ray collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:1	I'd like to see both versions of the original trilogy on the set as well.

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