Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[Dotpattern]

Originally Posted by starwarsagent

Any updates on the audio commentaries?

1. Is Mark Hammil doing them? is Mark hammil involved at all in any new interviews?

2. Harrison Ford? New Audio commentary??????


3. New carrie fisher audio commentary?


Please NO MORE Ben Burtt talking about artoo and lightsaber sounds!

AGAIN with this? Really?

[starwarsagent]

Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

Each of the OT films has an archival commentary on it. Basically it's interviews with the cast members from the Lucasfilm archives from around the time of each films release. It will be great to hear some of the deceased actors (Cushing/Guiness) talk about the films as they're playing. That's probably going to be the best extra on the set.

Those interviews are not Audio commentaries for a DVD/BD. As all good releases should have. It aint good enough.

This release should have, Mark, Carrie, Harrison & Lucas all watching the movie in 2011 and commenting on it.

Name me a source where you said this was done by the main cast while the film was playing?

the last one we got, Ben burtt, Lucas, Lorne peterson and Carrie talking about her weight and drug problem.

[starwarsagent]

Originally Posted by Dotpattern

AGAIN with this? Really?

Sure! why not? Harrison ford needs to get off his horse and do something totally new for this set.

[Moviefan2k4]

I really didn't have much to dislike about Burtt's comments on the DVDs, but his timing just sucked. I mean, the movie's playing, and we get to really important or intense scene, where sound FX are the last thing on your mind...and sure enough, here comes Burtt, with his latest rant about something that's not even in the scene being played.

[Shallow_]

Any comment except Irvin Kershners. Ep V commentary was horrible /me thinks. Personally id like a GL only on all 6 films, its his babies even though he used surrogates on a couple of them

[Breather]

It's obvious that the first set of commentaries on each film are nothing more than ports of the original DVDs.

I'm guessing here but I think the second set, on the OT, might be the commentaries from the "Definitive Collection" Laserdisc set from '93. The second set of prequel commentaries? No idea.

I would love to hear a commentary with Ford, Mark, Carrie, and Lucas. Harrison Ford is very blunt. I'd love to hear his take on the Han/Greedo scene.

Harrison Ford: "George, what the **** were you thinking here??"

George Lucas: "Well, even though it was perfectly clear from the subtitles that Greedo was about to murder Han, I felt self-defense made Han look like a cold-blooded killer. I was afraid that the illiterate among us would think Han was a murderer. I always intended for Greedo to shoot first anyway."

Harrison Ford: "George, that's so damn stupid, I don't have anything else to say. Things like this are the reason I stay away from the franchise nowadays."

[riverbelow]

Originally Posted by BillieCassin

[Show spoiler]He has soooo been caving on that, though. Gone are his "workprint" nonsense terms, he now refers to them as the "classic" editions.

That said, I stand with my theory that we WILL see the unaltered films on Blu. It's marketing genius - to attach them as "extras" on the inevitable single releases of each of the 3-D films.

It makes such perfect sense.

[Show spoiler]People like me who don't give one crap about SW in 3D (or 3D at all) would buy them instantly if they included 1080p versions of the OT. It would be a way to force up sales - if they included the corresponding OT to each 3-D release, then just about everyone would double-dip - those who want 3D, and those that want to own the films we grew up with.

This ^

Totally agree. I hope that's how it's done. After the theatrical 3D releases, there is a special edition UOTrilogy set bundle with the latest 3D *updated* purchase. This is the best of both worlds, for UOT fans, completeists, and for GL business strategy.

This way if you only want to own Episode 1 on 3D, you can get the UOT as well in 2012..etc etc if you are willing to wait for your favourite.

[kenkraly2004]

I know I say the same things over and over again of what I want fixed for the OT on blu-ray , the color timing issues , the sound mix for episode 4 A New Hope and so on but these issues are important that where messed up in 2004 for the dvd release and they need to be addressed for the blu-ray release. Soory if I say those things over and over again but these issues are important and need to be addressed.

[Moviefan2k4]

Originally Posted by Breather

I would love to hear a commentary with Ford, Mark, Carrie, and Lucas. Harrison Ford is very blunt. I'd love to hear his take on the Han/Greedo scene.

Harrison Ford: "George, what...were you thinking here??"

George Lucas: "Well, even though it was perfectly clear from the subtitles that Greedo was about to murder Han, I felt self-defense made Han look like a cold-blooded killer. I was afraid that the illiterate among us would think Han was a murderer. I always intended for Greedo to shoot first anyway."

Harrison Ford: "George, that's so damn stupid, I don't have anything else to say. Things like this are the reason I stay away from the franchise nowadays."

Even with his penchant for "blunt honesty", I sincerely doubt Harrison would disrespect George with a comment like that. Even though its clear from "Empire of Dreams" that Harrison's opinions aren't all positive, there's still a sense of his respect for Lucas. Truth be told, without "Star Wars", there's no telling where Harrison would be today...and I think both he and George understand that.

[Breather]

Originally Posted by Moviefan2k4

Even with his penchant for "blunt honesty", I sincerely doubt Harrison would disrespect George with a comment like that. Even though its clear from "Empire of Dreams" that Harrison's opinions aren't all positive, there's still a sense of his respect for Lucas. Truth be told, without "Star Wars", there's no telling where Harrison would be today...and I think both he and George understand that.

Moviefan, I was joking.

I know he would never go THAT far. It's my fantasy for a commentary. Don't spoil it!!

He does keep the franchise, and especially the fanbase, at arm's length. His personality would never tolerate the extremes that some in the fanbase go to. Can't say I blame him either. He's quite blunt about his opinions on everything, including Star Wars. I heard some years back that Harrison was not happy about having his work altered in the Greedo scene. I could almost picture him saying the first line I wrote, albeit in a nicer manner. More like, "George, why would you make a change like this? It never made me look like a killer in the first place." I don't think George would allow it on the DVD.

[Moviefan2k4]

Originally Posted by Breather

He does keep the franchise and especially the fanbase, at arm's length though.

Yeah, and that always puzzles me. I know he wants to be seen as a "serious actor" with a wide range, and not spend the rest of his life solely associated with Han Solo or Indiana Jones, but he's accomplished that already. Just look at this (brief) sample of films he has done...


American Graffiti
Blade Runner
Witness
Regarding Henry
The Fugitive
Air Force One
Patriot Games


All of these and more have solidified his reputation as one of the most popular and versatile actors today, so I fail to understand his continued avoidance of the "Star Wars" fanbase. It almost seems like he's afraid that if he gets too close to it again, it'll somehow tarnish or ruin his ability or reputation in the filmmaking business...a notion which is utterly ridiculous. Like it or not, "Star Wars" is largely what put Harrison on the cultural map, and many of us would like to see him more directly involved with its legacy.

[Breather]

Originally Posted by Moviefan2k4

Yeah, and that always puzzles me. I know he wants to be seen as a "serious actor" with a wide range, and not spend the rest of his life solely associated with Han Solo or Indiana Jones, but he's accomplished that already. Just look at this (brief) sample of films he has done...


American Graffiti
Blade Runner
Witness
Regarding Henry
The Fugitive
Air Force One
Patriot Games


All of these and more have solidified his reputation as one of the most popular and versatile actors today, so I fail to understand his continued avoidance of the "Star Wars" fanbase. It almost seems like he's afraid that if he gets too close to it again, it'll somehow tarnish or ruin his ability or reputation in the filmmaking business...a notion which is utterly ridiculous. Like it or not, "Star Wars" is largely what put Harrison on the cultural map, and many of us would like to see him more directly involved with its legacy.

Nice post. I agree with everything you wrote. I wish he had been more involved with the franchise as well. Clearly, he did not allow himself to be pigeonholed into one character over the years. His talent plus his screen presence have made sure that didn't happen. I think he was afraid of just that and that fear has probably played a role in his choice to stay at arm's length over the years, whether he was right or not.

On the other hand, based on interviews I've seen/read with him, he looks at acting as more of a job and source of income than other actors do. While he can be gruff and even odd in some interviews, he doesn't seem to hold the same level of pretentiousness about his craft as many actors do. He's immensely private as well. In addition to that, I think he likes the idea of being top banana in a film. With Star Wars, he was a member of a small ensemble and a spectacle, although a standout in that universe. With Indiana Jones and most of his other films, he was the guy.

No matter what happens to his career from this point on, I don't think his personality, cynicism, and considerable wealth will ever allow him to become a member of the convention circuit. I couldn't picture him in that role. The thought of Harrison Ford at an autograph table, staring out at thousands of fans in costumes, makes me think of the old Shatner SNL sketch. I could picture him standing up and yelling at everyone "it's just a movie series, people" and walking out.

I do feel that once he ages a little more and his career has wound down, we may see him get a little more involved. Maybe in 5-6 years, when a 3D box set is released, he'll do a commentary and attend a few more festivities than normal.

[Moviefan2k4]

Originally Posted by Breather

No matter what happens to his career from this point on, I don't think his personality, cynicism, and considerable wealth will ever allow him to become a member of the convention circuit. I couldn't picture him in that role.

See, and that's the kind of attitude which some actors seem to have, that really gets under my skin. They see the conventions as little more than a chance for more money, when ultimately, its supposed to be about them showing genuine appreciation for their fans. I've got nothing against actors wanting some compensation for such an event, but the prices some of these guys charge for a signed 8x10 is insane. Take a look at Mark Hamill for example; he mostly does cons in LA, because he hates to fly, and I've heard he charges over $150 sometimes; that's just nuts. I like his work, but at a certain point you start to think, "its just a signed photo, not gold".

The thought of Harrison Ford at an autograph table, staring out at thousands of fans in costumes, makes me think of the old Shatner SNL sketch. I could picture him standing up and yelling at everyone "it's just a movie series, people" and walking out.

I hope you're joking again, because I'd lose a great deal of respect for any celebrity who pulled a stunt like that.

I do feel that once he ages a little more and his career has wound down, we may see him get a little more involved. Maybe in 5-6 years, when a 3D box set is released, he'll do a commentary and attend a few more festivities than normal.

He's 68 now; in a few more years, he may be too old to do much, be it "Star Wars" related or anything else.

[IndyMLVC]

Originally Posted by Breather

I'm guessing here but I think the second set, on the OT, might be the commentaries from the "Definitive Collection" Laserdisc set from '93. The second set of prequel commentaries? No idea.

Again, please see my post. That's exactly what the commentaries will be.

Those laserdisc commentaries had so much silence in between comments by the participants that the booklet had to tell you where to find the audio...and it wasn't even that accurate.

Originally Posted by Moviefan2k4

See, and that's the kind of attitude which some actors seem to have, that really gets under my skin. They see the conventions as little more than a chance for more money, when ultimately, its supposed to be about them showing genuine appreciation for their fans. I've got nothing against actors wanting some compensation for such an event, but the prices some of these guys charge for a signed 8x10 is insane. Take a look at Mark Hamill for example; he mostly does cons in LA, because he hates to fly, and I've heard he charges over $150 sometimes; that's just nuts. I like his work, but at a certain point you start to think, "its just a signed photo, not gold".

I hope you're joking again, because I'd lose a great deal of respect for any celebrity who pulled a stunt like that.

He's 68 now; in a few more years, he may be too old to do much, be it "Star Wars" related or anything else.

As someone who studied acting and went to great lengths to make it my career. Most of my friends are actors. That said, signing autographs at a convention is pretty much a joke. It's a pathetic way to make money. Have you ever seen those guys? They sit at a table waiting for someone to come up and get their autograph or take a picture with them. It's like a monkey in a cage at the zoo. For someone of his stature, it's certainly not worth it. He's made his money and has no need for the pittance he would get from a convention. Could you see Sean Penn or Al Pacino at a freakin' movie convention? Pretty pathetic if you ask me.

[Monolithium]

Originally Posted by Breather

George Lucas: "I felt self-defense made Han look like a cold-blooded killer."

This sounds about right.

[Breather]

Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

Again, please see my post. That's exactly what the commentaries will be.

Those laserdisc commentaries had so much silence in between comments by the participants that the booklet had to tell you where to find the audio...and it wasn't even that accurate.



As someone who studied acting and went to great lengths to make it my career. Most of my friends are actors. That said, signing autographs at a convention is pretty much a joke. It's a pathetic way to make money. Have you ever seen those guys? They sit at a table waiting for someone to come up and get their autograph or take a picture with them. It's like a monkey in a cage at the zoo. For someone of his stature, it's certainly not worth it. He's made his money and has no need for the pittance he would get from a convention. Could you see Sean Penn or Al Pacino at a freakin' movie convention? Pretty pathetic if you ask me.

I saw your post. I didn't see any mention of the DVD-ported commentaries. I do agree that it's understoood what we're getting in the first commentary on each film.

I agree that the "Definitive Collection" commentaries were quite 'gappy' and I remember them well. They came out of nowhere on each film and weren't laid out in the best possible manner. The description of the archival commentary on the new set is quite vague. It would be nice to get something new but considering the vague description, it's no guarantee that it won't be the DC commentaries.

I'm with you on Harrison Ford appearing at a convention. I think he may get more involved with the franchise over the next few years in terms of certain types of appearances and maybe a commentary, but I don't think we'll ever see him at a convention.

[Breather]

Originally Posted by Moviefan2k4

but the prices some of these guys charge for a signed 8x10 is insane. Take a look at Mark Hamill for example; he mostly does cons in LA, because he hates to fly, and I've heard he charges over $150 sometimes; that's just nuts. I like his work, but at a certain point you start to think, "its just a signed photo, not gold".

I hope you're joking again, because I'd lose a great deal of respect for any celebrity who pulled a stunt like that.

He's 68 now; in a few more years, he may be too old to do much, be it "Star Wars" related or anything else.

I can't get over what I've heard these guys charging for autographs. That's outrageous. I know, for some, it's how they make a living when their careers haven't went beyond Star Wars or roles have dried up, but I can't see paying someone hard-earned money like that, especially those amounts. I couldn't pay someone myself. When I was 17, I ran into former Brown's running back Jim Brown in downtown Cleveland outside one of the restaurants. I asked for his autograph. He said $20. I laughed and walked away. I don't even charge for mine.

I really do think that Harrison Ford would take exactly the attitude I described. Although, I don't think he would ever do a convention to let that attitude come out in the first place.

He is getting up there, isn't he? To see so many of his films again and again over the years, it's hard to imagine him being almost as old as my father today. However, he was in his 30's by the time he made it big. Sometimes it's easy to forget that.

[horizonline]

Harrison Ford is a positive role model IMO.

[Moviefan2k4]

Originally Posted by Breather

I can't get over what I've heard these guys charging for autographs. That's outrageous. I know, for some, it's how they make a living when their careers haven't went beyond Star Wars or roles have dried up, but I can't see paying someone hard-earned money like that, especially those amounts.

Well, the convention circuit has sadly become just as much about business, a it has about fan appreciation. Far more often than not, celebs who appear at them are paid a flat fee by the promoters, and get a certain percentage of each autograph on top of that. I understand why some of them would want to be compensated, especially if it takes them away from their families, but so many folks now are just taking it too far. I wanted to go see Carrie Fisher, when she did a local con in Dallas a few weeks ago, but balked at her $50 autograph price tag, I think the most I've ever paid was $30, and only three times at that (Billy Dee Williams, David Prowse, and Brent Spiner). Most of them, until recently, were $20 or $25 a pop. I even got a dually signed 8x10 by "Batman" voice actors Kevin Conroy & Arleen Sorkin...and they were doing it for free! Now that kind of thing shows more concern for people than profit.

When I was 17, I ran into former Brown's running back Jim Brown in downtown Cleveland outside one of the restaurants. I asked for his autograph. He said $20. I laughed and walked away.

Yeah, that's just rude. I can understand such an approach in an official capacity, but charging folks who approach you on the street is just wrong. You don't see most celebs charging to sign things at red carpet events, do you?

[IndyMLVC]

Originally Posted by Breather

I saw your post. I didn't see any mention of the DVD-ported commentaries. I do agree that it's understoood what we're getting in the first commentary on each film.

I never mentioned the first commentaries. I'm talking about the "new" archival commentaries. The 2nd ones.