Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[nathan_393]

Almost missed the teaser info because of the hubbub in the LOTR EE thread right now!

That looks great though; can't wait for September! Loving the extras

[starwarsagent]

Originally Posted by greg_achen

When the original Star Wars came out, it was a film not specifically targeted for children and had a more universal appeal. Children, teenagers, and adults all loved it for that reason. Saying it was originally designed as a children's tale is somewhat spurious.

Well, did you grow up in the 1980s?

I did. And the people I saw playing with the toys and raving about the movie were us. The kids. We traded the cards, got the toys and begged our mother to buy us an AT-AT. I never saw any adults or teenagers walking around with SW action figures or comic books or even T-shirts. It was mostly the kids...us at the time.

Lucas has said Star Wars is for kids...and I love the book artwork with Anakin on it...It shows innocence and sensibility. How can anyone argue this? ask Lucas today who star wars is for, He will tell you its for the kids...this set is for your kids..for the next generation.

[adywan]

Originally Posted by starwarsagent

Well, did you grow up in the 1980s?

I did. And the people I saw playing with the toys and raving about the movie were us. The kids. We traded the cards, got the toys and begged our mother to buy us an AT-AT. I never saw any adults or teenagers walking around with SW action figures or comic books or even T-shirts. It was mostly the kids...us at the time.

Lucas has said Star Wars is for kids...and I love the book artwork with Anakin on it...It shows innocence and sensibility. How can anyone argue this? ask Lucas today who star wars is for, He will tell you its for the kids...this set is for your kids..for the next generation.

well, being 5 years older than you, i can honestly say you are so wrong there. When Star Wars came out adults and children alike wore the t-shirts and raved about Star Wars. Just take a look at the Making of Star Wars doc, which will also be included on this set. Then tell me that it was just the kids. Of course it was the kids that played with the action figures because that's what this section of merchandising was aimed at. But adults purchased the T-Shirts, the posters, the magazines etc. The appeal of the original films spanned generations

Planet of the Apes was an adult film and the TV series aimed at the family audience, yet kids had the action figures, so that proves nothing about what generation the films were aimed at. Lucas always said these were in the style of the saturday morning family serials like Buck Rogers and Flash Gordon. It was only when people started slating the prequels that he started to say that they were only films aimed at kids and that's why the adults don't like them. And you said it yourself "ask Lucas today.." and not "Lucas has always said" so there is your answer.

[starwarsagent]

Originally Posted by adywan

well, being 5 years older than you, i can honestly say you are so wrong there. When Star Wars came out adults and children alike wore the t-shirts and raved about Star Wars. Just take a look at the Making of Star Wars doc, which will also be included on this set. Then tell me that it was just the kids. Of course it was the kids that played with the action figures because that's what this section of merchandising was aimed at. But adults purchased the T-Shirts, the posters, the magazines etc. The appeal of the original films spanned generations

Planet of the Apes was an adult film and the TV series aimed at the family audience, yet kids had the action figures, so that proves nothing about what generation the films were aimed at. Lucas always said these were in the style of the saturday morning family serials like Buck Rogers and Flash Gordon. It was only when people started slating the prequels that he started to say that they were only films aimed at kids and that's why the adults don't like them. And you said it yourself "ask Lucas today.." and not "Lucas has always said" so there is your answer.

Aren't you going off topic? I'm just saying the book style blu ray set...the one you don't like is aimed at kids maybe?..what's wrong with that? it obviously have Anakin on the cover and it looks like a children's book like someone has said. I'm fine with it. whats the problem?

[kenkraly2004]

Adywan no one want to argue with you ok but I disagree about your opinion about the complete saga box art. I think it looks good maybe not great but it's not bad and yes it could have been done better with the poster art that I will agree with you. The bottom line is where getting the blu-ray box set for the films and the extra stuff that is on them not on weather the box art is good or not. And star wars is enjoyable for everyone not just for kids.

[starwarsagent]

Originally Posted by kenkraly2004

Adywan no one want to argue with you ok but I disagree about your opinion about the complete saga box art. I think it looks good maybe not great but it's not bad and yes it could have been done better with the poster art that I will agree with you. The bottom line is where getting the blu-ray box set for the films and the extra stuff that is on them not on weather the box art is good or not. And star wars is enjoyable for everyone not just for kids.

I don't have any complaints about the artwork, the box or anything else...Only problem is that there are no new documentaries, no new audio commentaries and no holiday special

This set could be for kids or adults...but I really think it's for the parents of kids who like star wars...and it shows in the design.

[ObiTrentKenobi]

Originally Posted by adywan

Of course most are going to go for the complete set because that is the only way you are going to get all the extras. It has nothing to do with how many want the whole saga.

Anyway, some more info about the blu-rays:

Not to be a weeeeeeeener or anything; but, where is the discs 7,8 and 9? I see the Prequel Trilogy set, that no doubt holds 3 discs. I see the Original Trilogy set, that no doubt holds 3 discs as well. Where is the packaging for Supplemental discs 7, 8 and 9?

I'm looking at the "Complete Saga" uggo box, and I can't understand how all this fits into it. It doesn't look much bigger than a double-thick bluray case itself.

[octagon]

Originally Posted by ObiTrentKenobi

Not to be a weeeeeeeener or anything; but, where is the discs 7,8 and 9? I see the Prequel Trilogy set, that no doubt holds 3 discs. I see the Original Trilogy set, that no doubt holds 3 discs as well. Where is the packaging for Supplemental discs 7, 8 and 9?

I'm looking at the "Complete Saga" uggo box, and I can't understand how all this fits into it. It doesn't look much bigger than a double-thick bluray case itself.

Look at the uggo book in front of the uggo box. It looks a lot like the Alien Anthology book and that thing can hold a surprising number of discs.

(And before the hand-wringing gets too overdone, I actually love the AA packaging - it's very elegant and I don't see any real danger of scratching the discs at all. If anything, you need to take care not to get the cardboard edges of the slots get too dinged up)

[Brightstar]

Originally Posted by ObiTrentKenobi

Not to be a weeeeeeeener or anything; but, where is the discs 7,8 and 9? I see the Prequel Trilogy set, that no doubt holds 3 discs. I see the Original Trilogy set, that no doubt holds 3 discs as well. Where is the packaging for Supplemental discs 7, 8 and 9?

I'm looking at the "Complete Saga" uggo box, and I can't understand how all this fits into it. It doesn't look much bigger than a double-thick bluray case itself.

Its gonna be like the Alien antholgy book style packaging

[P@t_Mtl]

Originally Posted by adywan

well, being 5 years older than you, i can honestly say you are so wrong there. When Star Wars came out adults and children alike wore the t-shirts and raved about Star Wars. Just take a look at the Making of Star Wars doc, which will also be included on this set. Then tell me that it was just the kids. Of course it was the kids that played with the action figures because that's what this section of merchandising was aimed at. But adults purchased the T-Shirts, the posters, the magazines etc. The appeal of the original films spanned generations

Planet of the Apes was an adult film and the TV series aimed at the family audience, yet kids had the action figures, so that proves nothing about what generation the films were aimed at. Lucas always said these were in the style of the saturday morning family serials like Buck Rogers and Flash Gordon. It was only when people started slating the prequels that he started to say that they were only films aimed at kids and that's why the adults don't like them. And you said it yourself "ask Lucas today.." and not "Lucas has always said" so there is your answer.

Star Wars was and will always be movies made for kids to begin with.
The reason Star Wars also took hold with many adults (and by many here I am being generous, let's not kid ourselves here the plus 40 population of the time saw Star Wars as "nice but come one" " ask my parents), it was a much different time and a much different society. Star Wars was extremely popular with kids from 5-25 and some of the 30 something. Society back then was very different then today. Vietnam, oil crises, recession....the entire planet was pretty much looking for a way to escape and Star Wars was the fun thing to escape with. Kids had the toys (I know me and my friends were kids and we had the toys, in wagon loads). Society was more innocent then, less jaded then the society of the 21st century more concern with their cell phone and social networking and complaining on the Internet Do you think disco would catch on with today's society like it did with the mid 70's society? Of course not because things were different back then, very different. The 35 years since as pretty much break out the innocent view we have of the world. We are jaded, tired, very skeptical of everything and complaining on a global scale is our new past time.

Star Wars was always for kids, then and now. Only the jaded view and the pink tinted glasses some use make them thing it was a serious thing back 35 years ago. By the way, if Planet Of The Ape was such a adult film, how come the adults did not go see it en masses, why did it not break box offices records? Or 2001? Or any other scifi movies? Because most adult see scifi as kid stuff, then and now. Some adults will like it, of course they will. I am 43 and I enjoy scifi! Maybe because as a kid I enjoyed it but the kids who did not (and there are some) as adult they can't stand it. Plus even if they did, a lot of people stop caring about such things as they grow older, that is just a sad fact but the truth as well. They look at it as kid stuff and they are adult now and want adult entertainment, not kid stuff, never mind they use to enjoy it once.

[starwarsagent]

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

Star Wars was and will always be movies made for kids to begin with.
The reason Star Wars also took hold with many adults (and by many here I am being generous, let's not kid ourselves here the plus 40 population of the time saw Star Wars as "nice but come one" " ask my parents), it was a much different time and a much different society. Star Wars was extremely popular with kids from 5-25 and some of the 30 something. Society back then was very different then today. Vietnam, oil crises, recession....the entire planet was pretty much looking for a way to escape and Star Wars was the fun thing to escape with. Kids had the toys (I know me and my friends were kids and we had the toys, in wagon loads). Society was more innocent then, less jaded then the society of the 21st century more concern with their cell phone and social networking and complaining on the Internet Do you think disco would catch on with today's society like it did with the mid 70's society? Of course not because things were different back then, very different. The 35 years since as pretty much break out the innocent view we have of the world. We are jaded, tired, very skeptical of everything and complaining on a global scale is our new past time.

Star Wars was always for kids, then and now. Only the jaded view and the pink tinted glasses some use make them thing it was a serious thing back 35 years ago. By the way, if Planet Of The Ape was such a adult film, how come the adults did not go see it and masses, why did it not break box offices records? Or 2001? Or any other scifi movies? Because most adult see scifi as kid stuff, then and now. Some adults will like it, of course they will. I am 43 and I enjoy scifi! Maybe because as a kid I enjoyed it but the kids who did not (and there are some) as adult they can't stand it. Plus even if they did, a lot of people stop caring about such things as they grow older, that is just a sad fact but the truth as well. They look at it as kid stuff and they are adult now and want adult entertainment, not kid stuff, never mind they use to enjoy it once.

wow. very good post man. I'm so tired, but I read this and it almost made me cry. im 38. I grew up in that era. My GF doesn't understand why I focus on Scifi and why I love it so much. She thinks the new TRON movie is just for kids, and she doesnt understand why I love that movie too and collect the toys ( doing that now). I love to think young, I always said to myself i want to stay young and think young...because I was a happier person as a child. Growing up sucks. Growing pains. So scifi takes me back to my childhood and those great times. but people from our time, the people who grew up with star wars are very different type of people. respectful, spiritual and motivated..with ideas and imagination beyond anyone today. I kinda feel sorry for todays kids....

reason this set, will open doors to the kids..and that's something everyone shuold be proud of.

[Coov]

There seems to be a bit of assumption made as in thinking this was a movie aimed directly at children. It is an assumption that is hard to not make in being a lot of us have our first memories from our childhood with the smell of buttered popcorn on our fingers and the soft glow of a Star Wars film on the movie screen.

In my opinion George Lucas has a different mindset now than he used to. The times are different and the technology made his mouth water. Who can blame him? The original films completely relied on his imagination and the depth of the characters that he had created. Even the actors were pushed beyond what they had planned on giving.

Eventually George had lost his love in capturing the character, and replacing it with capturing everything with CGI with character being an afterthought. His care and love for his product just seems be have gotten really sloppy lately and I am expecting no different with this Blu-ray release. The covers are a glimpse of that. From the distance at least the separate releases look almost half way decent. The set with all of the movies looks particularly awful and half hearted. If this whole set meant so much to him he would have had someone whip something up that even UOT guys like myself would not be able to pass up. Now the only thing that could get me excited about this release will be the reviews. They will be letting me know what I will be spending $90 on.

[Ryan0503]

Here is a bit of REAL news to break up all the debates. You can read the full article here

Last week, A.D.D. got a preview of the forthcoming Star Wars nine-disc Blu-ray set, which includes all six movies plus three discs of extras. Here are our initial thoughts from what we gleaned from the 15-minute presentation we received.

The Box. Stars Wars: The Complete Saga (not to mention the two individual trilogy boxes that will also be released simultaneously) comes housed in a handsome package assembled in book form, with every two pages devoted to a painted panel on the left side and a movie or extras disc housed on the right. There is also a nicely painted exterior cover. All the painted works were inspired by iconic Star Wars images from the appropriate movie being represented. The box looks sturdier than a lot of sets where the discs are tightly fitted into awkward sleeves or other bad design configurations. (Remember the annoying Planet Of The Apes Blu-ray box from 2008? Once you removed the discs from the little rubber knobs that held them, you never got them back in because they did not fit right.) We saw no booklet here, but I have been told that a small one will be included. But honestly, when you have more than 40 hours of bonus material, that’s not an important issue.

The Films. While the newer Star Wars films were ready made for high definition, the older films will obviously suffer a little from the all scrutinizing eye of HD. (The only pre-digital, color sci-fi film that holds up spectacularly well to date is 2001: A Space Odyssey; and to quote Malcolm McDowell out of context, you’re talking about Stanley ****ing Kubrick. No offense, Mr. Lucas.) We only managed to get small glimpses of scenes from a couple of the movies, as well as a montage of scenes from throughout the series, and the older effects hold up well and the colors look great. Makeup is obviously noticeable in some spots, but from what we saw it should not be a glaring distraction as with many other vintage sci-fi movies. (And to be LCD for a moment, fanboys who love seeing Princess Leia in her slave girl outfit from Return Of The Jedi will certainly find her even more alluring in HD.) Lucasfilm publicist Chris Argyropoulos mentioned that during the Sarlacc sandpit scene in Return Of The Jedi, he noticed a wall mural of Jabba the Hutt in Jabba’s sail barge that he had not noticed until this HD incarnation. It makes us wonder what other details we might discover later. Keep in mind that all of these comments come from previewing material on a 62-inch HD screen. Many fans will certainly complain that the original trilogy release (before they were digitized in the late Nineties) does not surface here, and those three unaltered films do deserve some HD love. But at least the revamped original trilogy looks more modern and fits in with the effects and technology used to make the prequel trilogy. I won’t get into the predictable debate comparing the new and old versions here.



The Extras. In terms of bonus material beyond some previously released material (including DVD audio commentary tracks), the Blu-ray set will feature over 40 deleted, extended and alternate scenes; new cast and crew interviews, including some unused vintage material; new documentaries including A Conversation with the Masters: The Empire Strikes Back 30 Years Later (featuring Empire director Irvin Kershner’s last on camera appearance) and Star Warriors, about the costume enthusiasts in the 501st Legion fan club; a flythrough of the Lucasfilm Archives; prop, maquette and costume turnarounds; and a 91-minute collection of Star Wars Spoofs. (For a comparison of the DVD and BD features, check out this Amazon page.) The few bits we saw, particularly about early designs for characters and props, were pretty interesting. We wish we could have seen clips from the spoofs or some deleted scenes, but those probably will not be revealed until release date.





The Summation. On top of getting high quality HD transfers — and we know that George Lucas will be quite adamant about QC — there will be a good amount of bonus material included to satiate hardcore fans. We can’t really say too much about it as we only caught glimpses, but it looks like there will be at least 8 to 10 new hours to go through. To be honest, my Star Wars DVDs look pretty damn good upconverted on my BD player and shown on a 40-inch screen, but there are many fans undoubtedly craving everything in HD, and they will get their wish on September 16th. I’m looking forward to checking out the spoofs, the 360 views of maquettes and various props like the original Millennium Falcon (which unintentionally looked like a Space: 1999 Eagle ship), plus the Empire anniversary doc (my fave film of the bunch). What would make Star Wars: The Complete Saga truly complete would be the original trilogy as it was originally released. At least those have surfaced on DVD, but without proper restoration. Regardless of that gripe, the Star Wars Blu-ray sets should please a multitude of fans and make a great gift for younger viewers who have yet to delve into them. And while I will always prefer the original trilogy, Episode III still kicks ass.

YouTube - STAR WARS The Complete Saga on Blu-Ray Trailer

[aiman04]

Originally Posted by aiman04

Anyway, I hope we get digibook style of packaging, just like the first season of The Clone Wars but with a slipbox.

They heard me! Exactly what I wished for!

[Ryan0503]

Originally Posted by aiman04

They heard me! Exactly what I wished for!

I will have to get all three now, I must have the 3 bonus disc bet the seprate trilogies will look SO much better on my shelf!!!! DAMN IT!!!

[s2mikey]

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

Star Wars was and will always be movies made for kids to begin with.
The reason Star Wars also took hold with many adults (and by many here I am being generous, let's not kid ourselves here the plus 40 population of the time saw Star Wars as "nice but come one" " ask my parents), it was a much different time and a much different society. Star Wars was extremely popular with kids from 5-25 and some of the 30 something. Society back then was very different then today. Vietnam, oil crises, recession....the entire planet was pretty much looking for a way to escape and Star Wars was the fun thing to escape with. Kids had the toys (I know me and my friends were kids and we had the toys, in wagon loads). Society was more innocent then, less jaded then the society of the 21st century more concern with their cell phone and social networking and complaining on the Internet Do you think disco would catch on with today's society like it did with the mid 70's society? Of course not because things were different back then, very different. The 35 years since as pretty much break out the innocent view we have of the world. We are jaded, tired, very skeptical of everything and complaining on a global scale is our new past time.

Star Wars was always for kids, then and now. Only the jaded view and the pink tinted glasses some use make them thing it was a serious thing back 35 years ago. By the way, if Planet Of The Ape was such a adult film, how come the adults did not go see it en masses, why did it not break box offices records? Or 2001? Or any other scifi movies? Because most adult see scifi as kid stuff, then and now. Some adults will like it, of course they will. I am 43 and I enjoy scifi! Maybe because as a kid I enjoyed it but the kids who did not (and there are some) as adult they can't stand it. Plus even if they did, a lot of people stop caring about such things as they grow older, that is just a sad fact but the truth as well. They look at it as kid stuff and they are adult now and want adult entertainment, not kid stuff, never mind they use to enjoy it once.

I dunno about it being only for kids.... I realize the incredible amount of toys sold may support that, but I know plenty of adults that love the Star Wars storyline.

Keep in mind that the backdrop of the story doesnt neecessarily matter. They could have told this story against a medeival backdrop or an LOTR fantasy-style backdrop and I bet it would have been just as popular and epic. Why? The characters, the battles, the element of good and evil, the redemeption of a man, etc, etc.

And, remember, the term "for kids" might not always refer to age. I am a certfied "kid" at heart and so are many other of age "adults" out there. Maybe SW is too campy or kiddie-ish for the valedictorian, smug adults out there who'd rather watch slow, boring foreign films. Thats their problem. The Sci-Fi genre has produced some of the best actual films ever made. Its assumed Sci-Fi is nerdy and dorky. But, take a look - lots of great films are set against a Sci-Fi backdrop. Its not just for nerds anymore!

Star Wars crosses all age boundaries, IMO.

[starwarsagent]

I'm gonna get al 3 variations...

has anyone heard of special editions? like steebooks or something?????

[starwarsagent]

Originally Posted by s2mikey

I dunno about it being only for kids.... I realize the incredible amount of toys sold may support that, but I know plenty of adults that love the Star Wars storyline.

Keep in mind that the backdrop of the story doesnt neecessarily matter. They could have told this story against a medeival backdrop or an LOTR fantasy-style backdrop and I bet it would have been just as popular and epic. Why? The characters, the battles, the element of good and evil, the redemeption of a man, etc, etc.

And, remember, the term "for kids" might not always refer to age. I am a certfied "kid" at heart and so are many other of age "adults" out there. Maybe SW is too campy or kiddi-ish for the valedictorian, smug adults out there who'd rather watch slow, boring foreign films. Thats their problem.

Star Wars crosses all age boundaries, IMO.

Well, for me kids range between 0-15. Do you agree????

[Jumpman]

aiman,

Is that a legit picture? If so, booyah!

[Ryan0503]

Originally Posted by starwarsagent

Well, for me kids range between 0-15. Do you agree????

I'd say a child is 0-13 ... A kid can be any age