Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[goldenrod]

Originally Posted by danny_boy

Adywan

Retreating to OT.com(where you will obviously be protected) and baiting me from there is a pretty hypocritical thing to do.

If you had an argument it would hold water HERE.

Otherwise consider your 2004 DVD lightsaber incorrect colour assertion to be debunked.

That's what I don't understand. membres of ot.com wants the UOT out and hate the changes that George lucas made to his saga, but they worship editions that were altered by a fan..... it still isn't the UOT. I don't understand.

I really like the new trailer and can't wait to get my hands on these movies.

[Falaskan]

so can someone post images of these corrected shots on the site here?

[al cos.]

Originally Posted by goldenrod

That's what I don't understand. membres of ot.com wants the UOT out and hate the changes that George lucas made to his saga, but they worship editions that were altered by a fan..... it still isn't the UOT. I don't understand.

Do you really not understand that someone can want the UOT AND be interested in an alternate version? It's not exactly a supernatural puzzle, you know.

[Elandyll]

To the entire Lightsaber color discussion, all I have to say is

[goldenrod]

Originally Posted by al cos.

Do you really not understand that someone can want the UOT AND be interested in an alternate version? It's not exactly a supernatural puzzle, you know.

To me the real alternate version is the special editions.

[motorheadache95]

Originally Posted by goldenrod

That's what I don't understand. membres of ot.com wants the UOT out and hate the changes that George lucas made to his saga, but they worship editions that were altered by a fan..... it still isn't the UOT. I don't understand.

I really like the new trailer and can't wait to get my hands on these movies.

That's just because fans who want the UOT don't have any problems with altered versions of the films--its about keeping the originals restored and alive, not about the existence of alternate/enhanced versions.

I still think everyone needs to cool off and just wait for the damn discs to actually come out and get reviewed. I know it's Star Wars and it's fun to discuss to death while everyone is impatiently waiting for them, but man, just take your mind off of it until september and then we will all know for sure what the movies look like and what has been altered and what has been left the same.

And believe me, as a fan (of the OT at least), I am VERY curious about this set. I am still on the fence about this release-- for me it really boils down to how good the OT looks, and if there is still color-timing problems or not. The trailer isn't giving me high hopes, but I'm still waiting for the actual reviews.

[Breather]

Originally Posted by Deciazulado

RED

All the times I saw the pictures in the 70's and 80's original, reissues, 35mm, 70mm, Super8mm the lightsaber color was red. On books and articles too, and the original CBS US and japanese laserdiscs. If people today are thinking it's supposed to be another color because DVD video versions have tint/hue errors, they're in the wrong forum.

Originally Posted by Deciazulado

You're basing you "Darth Vader's lightsaber was magenta" from pics made with a camera from a screen (which look horribly magenta in those pics)?? And VHS releases and TV broadcasts recorded from the air etc, when VHS has chroma phase errors up the wazoo?

I've seen it all now

Never ever remotedly while watching Darth Vader in the CINEMA, i ever thought, wow that lightsaber looks magenta always evil red (Yeah and since a lightsaber emits light, in its center the red desaturating to white, making the cinematic illusion that it was a very powerful energy that could cut through everything like a molten white hot core of a sun).

Quoted for correctness.

[georgec]

Originally Posted by al cos.

Do you really not understand that someone can want the UOT AND be interested in an alternate version? It's not exactly a supernatural puzzle, you know.

Logic doesn't apply here. You're either with Lucas or you're against him. And if you're against him, you aren't a true fan and should stop complaining because they're his movies and he can do whatever he want LOL.

[estoniankid]

Holy Moly, relax

No one will know anything for sure until they are released.

Hopefully they are reference, and I must say, based on the trailer
that is within the realm of possibility.

Avatar br is the best I have ever seen.

While the transfer for these 6 movies will be much trickier due to
their more primitive sources, it does sound like they are shooting for the top.

And personally I don't care what color Vadar's light saber is
as long as it is consistent in all the movies.

[Breather]

Originally Posted by georgec

And only one person (Breather) has followed up on writing e-mails to Lucasfilm.

And still no response with two emails sent.

[frogmort]

Originally Posted by georgec

You're either with Lucas or you're against him.

Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

[gregmasciola]

Originally Posted by Deciazulado

This is closer of how the thing should look, and still it has too much magenta highlights and green shadows (color crossover error it's called in photographic chemistry)

[Show spoiler]

You gave it the Fellowship Of The Ring Treatment!!!
Maybe the reason Vader's lightsaber doesn't look red anymore was because red made it seem too heavy!

[whaleman]

Originally Posted by motorheadache95

And believe me, as a fan (of the OT at least), I am VERY curious about this set. I am still on the fence about this release-- for me it really boils down to how good the OT looks, and if there is still color-timing problems or not. The trailer isn't giving me high hopes, but I'm still waiting for the actual reviews.

When do you guys think reviews will start appearing? Does blu-ray.com (or anyone) get access to the set before the rest of us on Sept 16?

[georgec]

Originally Posted by frogmort

Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

I'm glad someone got that one!

It's hard keeping this up without Cowboy.

[greg_achen]

While the new lightsaber cross from RotJ is a definite improvement, I was hoping that this shot was genuine.

Fake Shot:


Blu Ray Shot:

[gallandro]

Originally Posted by Deciazulado

You're basing you "Darth Vader's lightsaber was magenta" from pics made with a camera from a screen (which look horribly magenta in those pics)?? And VHS releases and TV broadcasts recorded from the air etc, when VHS has chroma phase errors up the wazoo?

I've seen it all now

Never ever remotedly while watching Darth Vader in the CINEMA, i ever thought, wow that lightsaber looks magenta always evil red (Yeah and since a lightsaber emits light, in its center the red desaturating to white, making the cinematic illusion that it was a very powerful energy that could cut through everything like a molten white hot core of a sun).



Seems I will need to administer soon some of my drops of special bottle potion

Really??? Let's look back at some history shall we?

One of the first promotional pics from TESB:



The famous Boris Vallejo promotional poster for TESB:



...and again the original 1977 Vader poster:




Curious....

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by greg_achen

While the new lightsaber cross from RotJ is definite improvement, I was hoping that this shot was genuine.

Slug's still there.

I wouldn't be surprised if this whole trailer wasn't taken from the 2004 transfer, with a quick fix on the sabre cross.

And am I wrong, but were there no shots of Yoda in the Empire Strikes Back in this trailer, or any of the Jabba Palace creatures? Or Ewoks?

If not, why not? Dare I say possible digital tweakage?



Just sayin...

[BMM]

Originally Posted by Cook

Glad to see the lightsabers have been touched up. Disappointed to see that Vader is rocking a pink saber more so than ever. Are some people actually trying to say that Vader's saber was always meant to be pink? Vader's saber is red. Always, has been, and was always meant to be.

That sums it up PERFECTLY! I'm glad to see that shot of the crossed sabers fixed for ROTJ, but anyone who thinks Vader always had a pink saber in ESB needs their bloody heads examined. He NEVER had a pink lightsaber in ESB and any argument to the contrary is pure, unadulterated BS. Period.

[STARSCREAM]

Trailer looks great. That new trailer also gives us a nice look at the packaging and what images they used inside. Looks good to me. Cannot wait to get this!

[oaguirre]

I´ve already seen the new trailer on Yahoo Movies US. Well, what can I say? Pink lightsabers and white boxes surrounding the Tie Fighters ? I didn´t expect those things again.

I´m worried about this set. First Lord of the Rings and the green tint and now this??