Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005) - Page 1011 - Blu-ray Forum

Starpower67 · 08-20-2011, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ozzsoad

1,2,3,4,5,6 is the only order I watch them in. You guys talk about there being no surprises if you watch the PT first, but who on Earth doesn't know who Luke Skywalker's father is?

If you were Introducing a kid to the series, they would have no knowlege of anything star wars so all of the revelations would be a suprise to them. When I first watched the OT it had already been on vhs for a while, and all 3 had already came out and the twist in empire was a major shock to me! Simply because there was no internet to spoil things like there is now, and everyone was polite enough who had already seen it not to spoil it for me.

So there is definitly a possibility of someone watching the OT and not knowing all of the plot twist, even if there isn't many who don't know anymore. The problem now is would the SE ending of jedi make sense to someone who has never seen or heard of the prequels?

Strevlac · 08-20-2011, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Beast

I'm of course going to watch them in story order. 1-2-3-4-5-6. Which is great, since The Phantom Menace is my favorite.

The Phantom Menace is my favorite of the prequels. But I consider Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith unwatchable, so that's not saying much.

Blu-man08 · 08-20-2011, 07:47 PM

The first time I watch the Blus, I'm going story order. Repeat viewings will be release order which is my preferred viewing order, though I may try IV, V, I, II, III, VI just for fun once or twice.

Aragorn the Elfstone · 08-20-2011, 08:37 PM

For some bizarre reason, I like the following viewing order: IV - I - II - V - III - VI. Star Wars introduces the whole world and establishes the main characters, then TPM and AotC take us back to the past of the Jedi and establish the history of Anakin becoming a Jedi. Then return to TESB, further developing the story of Luke, Han, & Leia - and dropping the bombshell of Vader's identity (which, granted, the viewer might be able to guess at this given the events of AotC, but it's still not fully given away). It also sets up the "other" potential Jedi, who we don't yet know the identity of. RotS then tells of the downfall of Anakin and the rise of Vader and the Empire - as well as the surprise reveal of Leia as Luke's sister (and the "other" Yoda spoke of). Then go back to RotJ, as the emotional resolution of all the different characters' storylines.

Sort of a Tarantino-esque order; but I rather like it.

gregmasciola · 08-20-2011, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

Agreed. Not impressed at all. The Brightness is far too high.

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Originally Posted by adywan

Those comparisons are completely misrepresentative of the differences between the DVDs and the SKYHD broadcasts. They have used two different colour scales for the captures, which makes the SKYHD broadcasts seem as if the blacks aren't as crushed and the picture is lighter. The only difference between the DVDs and the SKYHD broadcasts are resolution. The colour, brightness etc should be exactly the same between the two sources if the person had actually known what they were doing when they did the screen captures.

No offense, but it seems like some people just want something negative to say. The point of those comparisons is to show the increase in detail/resolution, not colors or brightness. There's so much more detail in skin textures and hair. So we can bet that the blu rays will look just as good (maybe even a little better) as far as detail. How good the colors will be, we can't know for sure yet.

adywan · 08-20-2011, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by gregmasciola

No offense, but it seems like some people just want something negative to say. The point of those comparisons is to show the increase in detail/resolution, not colors or brightness. There's so much more detail in skin textures and hair. So we can bet that the blu rays will look just as good (maybe even a little better) as far as detail. How good the colors will be, we can't know for sure yet.

So why quote my post then? That wasn't negative at all. It was in reply to the posts where people had commented on how much better the HD versions would look because there is more detail because they are brighter. I just pointed out that the screen captures misrepresented the colouring/ brightness and i actually did say that the only difference would be the resolution and therefore the detail aspect.

Maggot · 08-20-2011, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

I will probably go 1-6, just because the originals are my favorite....sort of save the best for last if you know what I mean.

Agree. I'll go 1 through 6, saving the three originals(and best)for last.

bmk1138 · 08-20-2011, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Cowboy

Maybe someone who has not seen the films? There is always someone.....

Just had to scan and post this comic, from the book The Art of Star Wars.

nmycon · 08-20-2011, 09:23 PM

OK, after a very quick contrast/colour adjustment, now which ones looks better. Han's skintone is a bit different (better IMO), the background green colours are identical. I've improved the contrast and select colours in the others as well.

HAN SOLO

[Show spoiler]

YODA

[Show spoiler]

LEIA

[Show spoiler]

goldenrod · 08-20-2011, 09:27 PM

on the star wars youtube channel, new pics of the OT were added. check the brasilan one. sorry dunno how to add pictures.

anh: Han and Jabba in docking bay 94
tesb: Lando and Fett while Han is being tortured
rotj: crossed lightsabers

gregmasciola · 08-20-2011, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

No. Sorry. If it looked good, I'd be VERY happy to say it. These look like shit.

Again, I was talking about the CLARITY of the picture, not the colors.

And saying they look like "shit" just proves my point, so thanks.

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Originally Posted by adywan

So why quote my post then? That wasn't negative at all. It was in reply to the posts where people had commented on how much better the HD versions would look because there is more detail because they are brighter. I just pointed out that the screen captures misrepresented the colouring/ brightness and i actually did say that the only difference would be the resolution and therefore the detail aspect.

Sorry if I misread you, your post just seemed more like you were just complaining about the colors being off.

miniroll32 · 08-20-2011, 10:04 PM

Oh well, least we know now that the 2004 Jabba is in A New Hope (not that it was ever really in doubt). Funny screenshot though - it just reminds me of how poor he looks in comparison to the 1997 version!

IndyMLVC · 08-20-2011, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by gregmasciola

Again, I was talking about the CLARITY of the picture, not the colors.

And saying they look like "shit" just proves my point, so thanks.

That's fine. I could also make a case that you're just looking to prove your point with pictures that are dissimilar.

Perhaps if you actually gave a caveat, it would have made your case stronger. Regardless, ANYONE could see that there is a major contrast issue with the caps.

That's not looking for an argument. That's being accurate. If you had wanted people to ignore the obvious and only agree with you, then you should have said that and we could have all done that and moved along.

Beast · 08-20-2011, 10:12 PM

Wait? You think the 1997 one looks better than the 2004 one?

I can't see how anyone would. The 1997 one is off on a number of areas. He's scrawny and a bit too short. But his face is the biggest problem. His nostrils and eyes don't look anything like the RotJ puppet. His coloring is especially off... and they even screwed up on the correct number of fingers. The 2004 one fits so much better with the Jabba from RotJ. Not only facially but he also has the correct number of fingers, and the right coloring. Heck, they even left off the tattoo on the '97 one.

Morsoth · 08-20-2011, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by goldenrod

I would like to see that in the spoof section of disc 9, but doubtful.

AT-AT DAY AFTERNOON - YouTube

Wow, that's cute and awesome!!! And by a Montreal team as I can see!!

2004 Jabba is better IMO. I always disliked how he scream (and How Han Solo "walk" on the tail) in the 1997 version.

miniroll32 · 08-20-2011, 10:14 PM

I preferred the '97 Jabba as he had a bit more personality in his body language/facial expressions. The '04 version just looks like what I dump during a hangover.

Cowboy · 08-20-2011, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Beast

Wait? You think the 1997 one looks better than the 2004 one?

I can't see how anyone would. The 1997 one is off on a number of areas. His face being the biggest problem. His nostrils and eyes don't look anything like the RotJ puppet. His coloring is especially off... and they even screwed up on the correct number of fingers. The 2004 one fits so much better with the Jabba from RotJ. Not only facially but he also has the correct number of fingers, and the right coloring. Heck, they even left off the tattoo on the '97 one.

They both look terrible and nothing like Jabba in Jedi to me anyway.

miniroll32 · 08-20-2011, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Beast

Wait? You think the 1997 one looks better than the 2004 one?

Yeah, but don't forget that we've only seen the '97 Jabba on VHS's. He could look quite different in HD

Starpower67 · 08-20-2011, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Cowboy

They both look terrible and nothing like Jabba in Jedi to me anyway.

Thats very true! However his color looks a little better on the blu-ray than on the 04 dvd I guess that's something.

Starpower67 · 08-20-2011, 10:25 PM

The 2004 Jabba is definitly closer to the look of Jabba from Jedi, even though it is still off.

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08-20-2011, 09:23 PM	#20209
nmycon Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Toronto, Ontario 4K collection:3 Blu-ray collection:446 DVD collection:87 Blu-ray reviews:4 Trading Score:1	OK, after a very quick contrast/colour adjustment, now which ones looks better. Han's skintone is a bit different (better IMO), the background green colours are identical. I've improved the contrast and select colours in the others as well. HAN SOLO [Show spoiler] YODA [Show spoiler] LEIA [Show spoiler] Last edited by nmycon; 08-20-2011 at 09:44 PM.

08-20-2011, 10:12 PM	#20214
Beast Blu-ray Champion Member since:Feb 2008 Blu-ray collection:376 Blu-ray reviews:3	Wait? You think the 1997 one looks better than the 2004 one? I can't see how anyone would. The 1997 one is off on a number of areas. He's scrawny and a bit too short. But his face is the biggest problem. His nostrils and eyes don't look anything like the RotJ puppet. His coloring is especially off... and they even screwed up on the correct number of fingers. The 2004 one fits so much better with the Jabba from RotJ. Not only facially but he also has the correct number of fingers, and the right coloring. Heck, they even left off the tattoo on the '97 one. Last edited by Beast; 08-20-2011 at 10:15 PM.

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08-20-2011, 07:47 PM	#20203
Blu-man08 Expert Member Member since:May 2008 Location:Michigan 4K collection:160 Blu-ray collection:518 Trading Score:123	The first time I watch the Blus, I'm going story order. Repeat viewings will be release order which is my preferred viewing order, though I may try IV, V, I, II, III, VI just for fun once or twice.

08-20-2011, 08:37 PM	#20204
Aragorn the Elfstone Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Sep 2008 Location:The Secondary World 4K collection:244 Blu-ray collection:772 DVD collection:152 Digital collection:115	For some bizarre reason, I like the following viewing order: IV - I - II - V - III - VI. Star Wars introduces the whole world and establishes the main characters, then TPM and AotC take us back to the past of the Jedi and establish the history of Anakin becoming a Jedi. Then return to TESB, further developing the story of Luke, Han, & Leia - and dropping the bombshell of Vader's identity (which, granted, the viewer might be able to guess at this given the events of AotC, but it's still not fully given away). It also sets up the "other" potential Jedi, who we don't yet know the identity of. RotS then tells of the downfall of Anakin and the rise of Vader and the Empire - as well as the surprise reveal of Leia as Luke's sister (and the "other" Yoda spoke of). Then go back to RotJ, as the emotional resolution of all the different characters' storylines. Sort of a Tarantino-esque order; but I rather like it.

08-20-2011, 09:27 PM	#20210
goldenrod Senior Member Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Montréal, Québec Blu-ray collection:653 DVD collection:18	on the star wars youtube channel, new pics of the OT were added. check the brasilan one. sorry dunno how to add pictures. anh: Han and Jabba in docking bay 94 tesb: Lando and Fett while Han is being tortured rotj: crossed lightsabers

08-20-2011, 10:04 PM	#20212
miniroll32 Expert Member Member since:Oct 2009 Location:U.K Blu-ray collection:87	Oh well, least we know now that the 2004 Jabba is in A New Hope (not that it was ever really in doubt). Funny screenshot though - it just reminds me of how poor he looks in comparison to the 1997 version!

08-20-2011, 10:14 PM	#20216
miniroll32 Expert Member Member since:Oct 2009 Location:U.K Blu-ray collection:87	I preferred the '97 Jabba as he had a bit more personality in his body language/facial expressions. The '04 version just looks like what I dump during a hangover.

08-20-2011, 10:25 PM	#20220
Starpower67 Special Member Member since:Dec 2009 4K collection:12 Blu-ray collection:178 DVD collection:97 Digital collection:2	The 2004 Jabba is definitly closer to the look of Jabba from Jedi, even though it is still off.

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