Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[Jay444]

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

So am I? Lucas gave in the the crying online (the only time he did) and he should have not. I am quite sure he still had more plans for Jar Jar in the other two movies but most likely change them because of all the crying over Jar Jar. Me I would have just keep going.

I don't buy this. From a character perspective, Jar Jar's role was taken over by the two droids in the following films. He was merely a 'fill in' for them in TPM as they were hardly present in their typical Laurel & Hardy fashion. Lucas, as a writer would have realized this very early on in the script process of ATOC.

Think of how painful it would be to have TWO C3P0s running around in ATOC and I think you get the idea that Jar Jar's presence would have been redundant and not worthwhile in the films following TPM. Besides, the reduced role served the two follow ups quite well I thought.

Besides, if Lucas truly felt that strongly about the character he could easily add scenes into the PT if he wanted to. Afterall, he is the creator of the series...

[Inspector Toschi]

Is it just the new tweaks that people are complaining about? (which was to be expected anyways) Because I've watched a solid hour now of A New Hope, and the PQ is pretty damn great. Anyone who says otherwise is full of it IMO. The detail is often remarkable and miles better than I've ever seen Ep4 look. Nor has image been sharpened or DNR'rd. It looks natural (Sans the CG)

I understand the hate towards the tweaks, but were people really not expecting any? People are acting like we were supposed to get the unaltered cuts. We all knew we were getting the special editions, right? How is this shocking news?

It just seems the tweaks are being more reviewed as opposed to the actual quality. And from what I've actually seen with my own eyes, the quality appears to be very very good. I'm still thinking about how great the 3PO and R2 in the desert looked. Outstanding detail o those droids.

I guess it's no shock though this set is turning into another Alien/s and LOTR controversy (If you can call it that) It's always the ones with big effects and a big fan base.

[pmac]

Originally Posted by miniroll32

Wow I forgot, can't post my opinion

What he said has nothing to do with you not posting your opinion,

If you don't like it don't buy it, simple as that...keep your opinion, you do have options to express your outrage.

[adywan]

Just found one of the alterations done to Episode 4:

[Show spoiler]

[Jumpman]

Toschi,

Thanks for that. It's good to hear that the picture quality seems to be outstanding...even on a rip.

[Jumpman]

adywan,

That's an interesting change. I don't like or it or hate it. It's just an interesting change.

[Roonan]

Originally Posted by 42041

okay, dare I ask the question that's been bugging me for a long time: who cares if his saber is green

Many of us?

[thecathedral]

Originally Posted by backgroundactorman

Heres an idea rather than spending hours,days,weeks, or months compalining about these changes to HIS movies. Why not choose to just not watch them, and be done with it allready. either watch it or dont most ppl dont care one way or another. In fact all of the worked up cliched "GL raped my child hood whines" just add fuel to the sterotypes about star wars fans.

Lucas cried like a baby in front of the US Congress over the colorization of movies and did so again over the Three Stooges.

In fact many of his arguments against the colorizations were EXACTLY the same as those complaining about Star Wars.


Do a little research before you spew at people who don't want classic movies tampered with.

[Blu-Runner]

Wait a sec, so how did R2 fit in there now?

[nmycon]

Originally Posted by 42041

okay, dare I ask the question that's been bugging me for a long time: who cares if his saber is green


at this point, the idea of a very elaborate prank on the Star Wars obsessives is not something I'll rule out.

Why should we have to settle for this:

[Show spoiler]

When they could have, just as easily, given us this:

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Took me less than 30 seconds.

[georgec]

Originally Posted by adywan

Just found one of the alterations done to Episode 4:

[Show spoiler]

I guess R2 can flatten himself to wedge between tight areas.

It's almost as if a child got a hold of these movies and decided to make all the changes.

Originally Posted by backgroundactorman

Heres an idea rather than spending hours,days,weeks, or months compalining about these changes to HIS movies. Why not choose to just not watch them, and be done with it allready. either watch it or dont most ppl dont care one way or another. In fact all of the worked up cliched "GL raped my child hood whines" just add fuel to the sterotypes about star wars fans.

The only person mentioning "GL raped my childhood" is you. Why all the anger directed at people who are noticing the various changes and color problems? The only stereotype about SW fans I see is those who will gladly accept anything, no matter how faulty, GL puts out. The rest of us are rational about this and don't feel obligated to spend money on something we don't feel has sufficient quality or treatment.

[pmac]

Originally Posted by backgroundactorman

Heres an idea rather than spending hours,days,weeks, or months compalining about these changes to HIS movies. Why not choose to just not watch them, and be done with it allready. either watch it or dont most ppl dont care one way or another. In fact all of the worked up cliched "GL raped my child hood whines" just add fuel to the sterotypes about star wars fans.

+1 for the whole thing but the bolded is bang on

There is no anger to that post I must add.

[DetroitSportsFan]

Originally Posted by Blu-Runner

Wait a sec, so how did R2 fit in there now?

I was thinking the same thing.

[Beast]

Originally Posted by Jumpman

adywan,

That's an interesting change. I don't like or it or hate it. It's just an interesting change.

While how he gets back there will likely lead to more debates...

It makes sense for how Obi-Wan doesn't even notice R2-D2, until he makes noise. And then is surprised.

[nmycon]

Originally Posted by adywan

Just found one of the alterations done to Episode 4:

[Show spoiler]

NO WAY!

What the hell is this?

The general idea of the change (R2 hiding behind rock) is fine... but it looks so sloppy! The edge of the rock doesn't blend with the scene, the shadow on R2 looks awful...

[anomynous]

Just saw the Ewok eyes.

What the hell.

[Jumpman]

Oh crap, this thing is going to blow up. It's gone beyond home theater forums.

http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/r.../news/?a=45503

[kurtlingle]

Originally Posted by adywan

Just found one of the alterations done to Episode 4:

[Show spoiler]

Not sure what is more amazing:

- The fact that Lucas bothered to change something like this
or
- The fact that Adywan noticed it!

[Weirded Wonder]

Originally Posted by adywan

Just found one of the alterations done to Episode 4:

[Show spoiler]

God that always bothered me... I was like, why don't the sandmen come and take R2?

It's not as distracting unlike the ROTJ dance number.

[bboisvert]

Originally Posted by Inspector Toschi

We all knew we were getting the special editions, right? How is this shocking news?

No one knew exactly what we were getting. What are the "special editions", exactly? We've gotten different versions with different changes in '97, '04, and now '11.

Yes, people were expecting what we got in 2004, maybe with some other changes (wicket's eyes or shit like that). They weren't expecting Vader's "noooooooooooo!". At least I don't remember anyone predicting that the climax of the entire 6-film saga was going to be altered.

Originally Posted by Inspector Toschi

It just seems the tweaks are being more reviewed as opposed to the actual quality.

Honestly, when you're dealing with "tweaks" of this degree, I start to care less and less about the quality. I'm buying, but I'm guessing mostly for the prequels and bonus material at this point. Most of my 1080p viewings of the OT going forward are going to be from a quality, fan-made version... 'cuz this is getting further and further away from the films I love. Hayden in RotJ was close to my breaking point. The added Vader dialog pretty much is it... I'm done. Lucas can refilm the damn thing for all I care. I'll find my own way to watch the films that I actually love and have been watching for decades.