Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[Snowmaker]

Originally Posted by moviestar

feel free to make your own shot and compare when you have the BD. these are the discs, your shots are not going to be magically different

BD

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PremiereHD

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Every time is see a shot of that scene, all I hear is "Han mah boogie"

[danny_boy]

Lucas: The special edition, that’s the one I wanted out there. The other movie, it’s on VHS, if anybody wants it. ... I’m not going to spend the, we’re talking millions of dollars here, the money and the time to refurbish that, because to me, it doesn’t really exist anymore. It’s like this is the movie I wanted it to be, and I’m sorry you saw half a completed film and fell in love with it. But I want it to be the way I want it to be. I’m the one who has to take responsibility for it. I’m the one who has to have everybody throw rocks at me all the time, so at least if they’re going to throw rocks at me, they’re going to throw rocks at me for something I love rather than something I think is not very good, or at least something I think is not finished.

AP: Do you pay much attention to fan reactions to your choices?

Lucas: Not really. The movies are what the movies are. ... The thing about science-fiction fans and “Star Wars” fans is they’re very independent-thinking people. They all think outside the box, but they all have very strong ideas about what should happen, and they think it should be their way. Which is fine, except I’m making the movies, so I should have it my way.
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/601138...ilogy-returns/

[Merlinpants]

Originally Posted by moviestar

my agenda is simply to show how the PQ is going to be like and then everyone can decide whatever they want with their money.

Then you are failing, do you work for Lucasfilm? They are experts at half truths, smoke and mirrors, and that is all you are achieving. Post ACTUAL uncompressed blu ray footage, and if that looks like the HDTV rip or the production Blu rip, well done. Until then it is pointless. People are asking the question, the answer is - no-one actually knows yet. The MKV files have astounded some people, so the outlook is positive.

It is just a shame that the films themselves may not be as impressive.

There is no way such a high profile release will not excel in terms of audio and picture quality, and lets face it, it is all Lucasfilm has left to drag the naysayers and haters back into the fold. The reviews will be outstanding from a technical point of view (all the preview reviews have confirmed as much), not so good on the content front.

[moviestar]

BD

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HDTV

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[P@t_Mtl]

Originally Posted by El_Jay

Actually, if they just said "HAHA JUST KIDDING APRIL FOOLS!" and none of the new changes were real, the mob would relax a fair bit.

It may be their way of getting us to accept the 1997 and 2004 changes.

"See?! It could have been worse!"

I don't know, at this point I doubt it would make much change, the rage as reach a all time level of high on this subject.

[Merlinpants]

Originally Posted by HandyDandy

Wait people are actually trying to say that the SW dvd's are better in terms of Pic quality than the Blu's.

That does not make sense.

No, the content is identical to the '04 DVD (colour timing, errors etc) but in HD demo quality.

[Kryptonic]

Originally Posted by danny_boy

Lucas: The special edition, that’s the one I wanted out there. The other movie, it’s on VHS, if anybody wants it. ... I’m not going to spend the, we’re talking millions of dollars here, the money and the time to refurbish that, because to me, it doesn’t really exist anymore. It’s like this is the movie I wanted it to be, and I’m sorry you saw half a completed film and fell in love with it. But I want it to be the way I want it to be. I’m the one who has to take responsibility for it. I’m the one who has to have everybody throw rocks at me all the time, so at least if they’re going to throw rocks at me, they’re going to throw rocks at me for something I love rather than something I think is not very good, or at least something I think is not finished.

AP: Do you pay much attention to fan reactions to your choices?

Lucas: Not really. The movies are what the movies are. ... The thing about science-fiction fans and “Star Wars” fans is they’re very independent-thinking people. They all think outside the box, but they all have very strong ideas about what should happen, and they think it should be their way. Which is fine, except I’m making the movies, so I should have it my way.
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/601138...ilogy-returns/

[chip75]

Originally Posted by toddly6666

What about in other countries? There must be a PAL VHS of Revenge of the Sith somewhere...

There are quite a few countries that had a Sith VHS release, the US wasn't one of them though.

[chad_1138]

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Originally Posted by moviestar

BD


HDTV

Much better. You can actually see the droid in the doorway.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by Merlinpants

No, the content is identical to the '04 DVD (colour timing, errors etc) but in HD demo quality.

Demo quality? do you have the discs then?

[P@t_Mtl]

Originally Posted by HandyDandy

Wait people are actually trying to say that the SW dvd's are better in terms of Pic quality than the Blu's.

That does not make sense.

No! Some prefer the DVD because of the missing alterations that they feel make's the story less interesting.

[moviestar]

Originally Posted by Merlinpants

Then you are failing, do you work for Lucasfilm? They are experts at half truths, smoke and mirrors, and that is all you are achieving. Post ACTUAL uncompressed blu ray footage, and if that looks like the HDTV rip or the production Blu rip, well done. Until then it is pointless. People are asking the question, the answer is - no-one actually knows yet. The MKV files have astounded some people, so the oitlook is positive.

It is just a shme that the films themselves may not be as impressive.

There is no way such a high profile release will not excel in terms of audio and picture quality, and lets face it, it is all Lucasfilm has left to drag the naysayers and haters back into the fold. The reviews will be outstanding from a technical point of view (all the preview reviews have confirmed as much), not so good on the content front.

png compression is basically not really noticeable and standard when comparing different kind of screenshots to each other. what you see here are shots from the BD and not some kind of .mkv encode.

[Merlinpants]

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Please wrap your enormous misleading images in spoiler tags.....thanks.

[georgec]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

Oh and I will just leave this here for the haters out there:

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/77579

Kthanksbye

I wish more people on this forum could mentally separate the ideas of sharpness and color.

Yes, the blu-rays are sharper - that is expected. However, the color is horribly dark and loses some nicer details in the blacks. The blu-ray image makes it look like I'm watching through a pair of Real3D glasses.

Side note - it would be funny if Vader said no like the following instead of the longer emoting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z_Qqnq8pI8

[Merlinpants]

Originally Posted by moviestar

png compression is basically not really noticeable and standard when comparing different kind of screenshots to each other. what you see here are shots from the BD and not some kind of .mkv encode.

You have the discs then?

[moviestar]

Originally Posted by Merlinpants

You have the discs then?

nope. no disc and no encode either (only the HDTV cap). but as said, take pngs yourself after you have the disc (with same tools and settings) and youll find out it will look the same.

[Merlinpants]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

Demo quality? do you have the discs then?

no, sarcasm is the lowest form of wit. The HD discs will be demo quality for the '04 DVD, geddit?

Really this place is like a playground, it really makes it clear why there are thousands of pointless posts made in a Blu Ray forum.

[El_Jay]

Originally Posted by Merlinpants

But you don't have the blu ray, case closed. I'm not debating anything other than misrepresentation of the final picture quality. Not sure what your aganda is, apparently 95% of this forum isn't buying the film 'cause Georgey added 2 words.

It's all about what it does to the overall feel of the movie, not just "adding 2 words". If he added the words "if" and "or" to a throwaway line, nobody would care.

Imagine the scene with Michael Corleone telling Fredo "I knew it was you Fredo, and it breaks my heart... *POOT* ... I farted".

BOOM changes the tone of the whole movie.

It's easy to trivialize something if you try hard enough.

Honestly the change is offensive to me because before it was subtle. Now it smacks you over the head. All of his changes seem to be changing something subtle into something that beats you over the head. It's just insulting to our collective intelligence.

I am probably still going to buy the set, but sheesh, how much unnecessary tinkering can possibly be done to 30 year old films.

Anyway, none of the new changes are as bad as Hayden in ROTJ or "Jedi Rocks", but in their totality I don't think a single addition has added anything to the movies. The fixes are appreciated (landspeeders etc.) but the stuff like Jedi Rocks that just throws off the whole tone of the scene are still baffling.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by chad_1138

Much better. You can actually see the droid in the doorway.

How about this? better or worse?

[madlost1]

Originally Posted by moviestar

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You do have to realize that Merlin is right. The shots that you are posting are compressed and are not a representation of the final product that will be put onto the market. Just because it is a rip of the Blu's doesn't mean that that is what the blu quality will be. An mkv is a file type that is used for high definition video on computers. The fact is what you are posting are screenshots from a (compressed from the original blu) mkv file.