Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[Post Prod]

Originally Posted by El_Jay

Yeah, so sad.

I've always been a way bigger fan of Wars than Trek (even though I loved the 2009 Abrams reboot) but I kind of feel like converting to Trekkism, those freaks always get what they want.

It's just such a weird control freak issue to not only make changes as a "directors cut", but to willfully keep the originals from being produced again and make comments that scorn people who want them.

I don't get who he's trying to impress.

There are technical mistakes in The Godfather but it hasn't hurt it's legacy in the slightest.

So are we now saying the films are best left in the hands of the studios and not the creators?

I can think of a bunch of counterpoint examples to that, if that's your perspective. Hell just with Fox alone.

[El_Jay]

Originally Posted by Monkey

I also zoom 400% in on my wife and kid for every flawed pixel. She also added two more words that I didn't want to hear.

I was able to return the wife, but not without a huge penalty.

If my wife started singing Jedi Rocks out of the blue I would return her.

[earmullet]

Originally Posted by HDPlasma

Yup.
It's No.3 on the best seller list.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers...d_i=2625373011


Only a small portion of hardcore fans will not buy/cancel(just like LOTR EE) this release, which will not be enough to impact the bottom line(revenue).

Continue to discuss the whining, *****ing, moaning, venting of distaste for this release on to deaf ears of the Internet black hole because GL is in his ivory tower shrugging his shoulders counting his cash.

*I personally do not like the changes but watching an upconverted DVD on a 117" screen just doesn't cut it. I'll probably wait though when there's a price drop around/after Black Friday to make a purcahse.

I wasn't whining last week, in fact I was railing against people complaining against this release. What a difference a couple days makes.
It should be easily #1, and the reviews on amazon are getting worse.

[Dave_6]

Originally Posted by Chordata

I hope that some of you guys put the same amount of time and dedication toward your jobs and families as you do toward this thread.

Wow.

This x 1000. Seriously.

[scamander]

Originally Posted by toddly6666

And this also means on the German blu-ray, we hear, " nine.....NIIIIIIIINE!!!!!"

"Nein.... NEEEEEIIIIN"

[nathan_393]

Originally Posted by El_Jay

Hmm, this poses an interesting question, at least interesting to me...

How much of a film can you change and still claim it's from 1977?

Not much. That's why there are the 1997 originals, 1997 Special Editions, the 2004s, and the 2011s. That's pretty much how it is imo.

[Dynamo of Eternia]

Originally Posted by El_Jay

I don't think this is far off. Judging by some of his comments, he has nothing but disdain for his nerdy fans. It's like he's getting even with us for taking shots at him, "bringing the ball home with him" as it were. "Oh yeah? Don't like my changes? HAH suck it, how do you like this?" I don't think we're far off from a scene with Han playing 1 on 1 basketball against Jabba to pay off his debt.

I have a feeling that the light sabers will probably be updated for the 3D release. Heck, he may even make other changes that people will actually want (maybe even get rid of this new "Nooooo"). BUT, when it comes time for the Blu-Ray release, he will ONLY release them in 3D... There will be no separate 2D disc (at least not of that same version of the movie), and it will be on a 3D disc that doesn't give the option to watch it in 2D. So, you can have the preferable updates, but if you are someone who doesn't like or want 3D, or even if you do like it but also want the option to watch it in 2D from time to time you're essentially screwed.

Originally Posted by Merlinpants

Dynamo,

Do you know the funniest thing about Star Trek fans, they are all up in arms about the Directors cuts of the films not being available on Blu, only the originals.

Star Wars fans are up in arms about the Directors cut of the original trilogy being released on Blu, but the originals not.

Ying and yang will bring balance to the force, not the chosen one after all.

It's an understandable frustration IMO. Not everyone is the same, and everyone is going to have their preferences. It would be nice if those versions were to be released on Blu-Ray for those who want them (though wasn't there a problem where some of the added effects were rendered in SD and therefore wouldn't look good in HD? If so, then it kind of makes sense... but if it can be fixed, then awesome). IMO it's preferable that all versions of a movie that have been released be made available, whether it's in one pack together or sold separately.

At least the Star Trek films haven't gone through as many revisions as Star Wars.

[HandyDandy]

Originally Posted by Scorxpion

Let's wait for a final conclusion from Blu-ray insider or interviewer ,who told you this picture or that picture is taken from BD original disk. what if they are from pirated resources as all we know.Do you have a clue or evidence 100 percent that these are taken from original resources.if You want now Fast five on BD i can bring it for you and all we know still not released and no one have the original disk.Already Bill Gates mentioned in digitalbits that Star wars on BD are promising especially he was astonished by DTSHD master audio.

I agree we should just wait for the reviews.

[El_Jay]

Originally Posted by Post Prod

So are we now saying the films are best left in the hands of the studios and not the creators?

I can think of a bunch of counterpoint examples to that, if that's your perspective. Hell just with Fox alone.

No, I don't think I made any blanket generalizations like that.

In this particular case, the director is an OCD megalomaniac who feels owning these films means he owes his fans, fans who made his empire, nothing.

In the hands of say, Francis Ford Coppola or Martin Scorsese or Ridley Scott, I say they have been trusted to listen to what other people think and take it into consideration.

Dude, George, here's a thought... if you want these changes made, make them. Then keep that version for yourself and release the ones we want to us.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by El_Jay

Hmm, this poses an interesting question, at least interesting to me...

How much of a film can you change and still claim it's from 1977?

he does not claim it is from 77 the dvds were copyrighted as 2004 as they are classed as new movies.

[insomniac013]

Originally Posted by Post Prod

So are we now saying the films are best left in the hands of the studios and not the creators?

I can think of a bunch of counterpoint examples to that, if that's your perspective. Hell just with Fox alone.

George obviously does not get Star Wars or gives a shit about his fans. Why should the rights be with him when he keeps ****ing it up?

Yeah, El Jay knows whats up!

[meehan]

Originally Posted by Merlinpants

The HD discs will be demo quality for the '04 DVD

Demo quality of a seven year old DVD? And you're happy to pay for that?

[Dynamo of Eternia]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

he does not claim it is from 77 the dvds were copyrighted as 2004 as they are classed as new movies.

Actually, if you look at the ending credits of the 2004 DVDs, they are still credited as 1997.

What you are saying was true of the 1997 updates and release. But the 2004 DVD changes were done a bit more under the radar in that sense. As far as I know, the ending credits are completely unchaged from the 1997 version, and there is nothing with a 2004 copyright date on it.

Also, when these play on Spike and I bring up my digital cable menu, the year always shows as 1997 for the OT movies, even though the versions that they've been showing are based on the 2004 DVDs.

[Jay444]

Originally Posted by HandyDandy

Don't you want to wait and see what the PT rip will be like.
Wonder what new stuff has been added as well as dialogue??

Nope, not at all. The PT was all done by Lucas. No one else is credited as director and his ex-wife didn't edit them, so chances are slim he does much to them at all. So, my guess they are as 'the creator' intended them to be, lol. Plus, the only film to have any issues in transfer was TPM and that will be fixed as it needed a new master for the 3D process anyway. So, we are good there. Now, if it turns out he added more Jar Jar in or has Anakin says: "No! Noooooooo!" when his mommie dies, then I will cancel the order...lol. But until then, not going to bother waiting for a rip to pop up online.

[kristoffer]

Originally Posted by insomniac013

Yeah! Just because both directors have passed away it gives him the right to mess with their work? I don't think so Both were more capable than Lucas too... Which is why i wish he would get off his arse and let other better directors make Star Wars films!

That could be amazing!

[Cortiz]

I guess George can change whatever he wants. After all, they are his movies and I don't have a problem with that. What I have a problem with is "Choice". he can alter all he wants, I don't give a rat a$$, but c'mon, give the fans a choice by releasing the originals unaltered and in good quality along with the altered versions.....let the fans decide which version they want to watch.....C'mon George, Is it really too much to ask???

[kristoffer]

Originally Posted by Cortiz

I guess George can change whatever he wants. After all, they are his movies and I don't have a problem with that. What I have a problem with is "Choice". he can alter all he wants, I don't give a rat a$$, but c'mon, give the fans a choice by releasing the originals unaltered and in good quality along with the altered versions.....let the fans decide which version they want watch.....C'mon George, Is it really too much to ask???

But are episode V and VI really "his" movies?

[Agent Bond]

Granted, these are George Lucas' movies, but he's still a d*ck for not releasing the original versions. Its like going to a burger joint and getting a cheeseburger when you ordered a hamburger. He should give the fans the option like he did with the DVDs. Not only would he make even more money by simply giving the fans what they want, but he actually might get some respect back from them.

The biggest problem is him constantly making these changes. First, 1997 then 2004 now 2011. If you have to keep making changes to something, you'll never be truly satisfied with it.

And I'd like to think that maybe this company will be better after George Lucas is dead, but the fact is it's going to get taken over by his idiotic daughter and his doofus son-in-law and the rest of his stupid family.

We never see Leia hand Chewie a medal, so it would be weird if he suddenly has one.

True, but IIRC he did get a medal in the original novel. I was hoping they would fix it to be like the book. A great example would be the updated Emperor scene in The Empire Strikes Back.

[Monkey]

Originally Posted by El_Jay

If my wife started singing Jedi Rocks out of the blue I would return her.

Haha

[Bucky]

Originally Posted by kristoffer

But are episode V and VI really "his" movies?

who elses movies would they be???????????????????