Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[phansson]

Originally Posted by Dotpattern

I like how Lucas is painted in amongst the other villains.

That is funny, I didn't notice that.

[LaserD]

Originally Posted by Agent Bond
Lucas has butchered the originals so much now, he might as well remake them.

Originally Posted by phansson

I am beginning to think the same thing. We are getting to that point anyway.

I have no doubt that we will see not only more SW films in the future, made by other filmmakers, but indeed remakes. Everything gets remade, even when it's unnecessary. There are at least 3 versions of The Ten Commandments, all of them now on Blu, a few versions of The Wizard of Oz. Even the ancient Beowulf gets redone every few years. Hopefully I'm still around when these 6 films are remade in the future. I'm curious to see what another director and writers could do with this material.

[besi]

Originally Posted by Vashetti

I hope one day he does replace the puppet.

I'll probably be shot down for this but I find the puppet hilariously fake and would celebrate the day it becomes CGI.

first one : good digestive system

second : bad constipation symptoms

[kingkong650]

Originally Posted by phansson

I guess we will have to disagree on the yoda getting cgi'ed into the OT. I just really wouldn't put it past Lucas to do anything now. The small changes I understand, Wicket's blinking give him some sort of life, etc, Now changing dialogue to the climax of a 3 part movie? He is not right in the head.

And yet there´s method to his madness as far as the Vader dialogue change is concerned. Yes, adding the ´no´, then ´no......................!´ is awful and cringeworthy, especially the cheesy way its delivered with that echo effect, but one can see what George is thinking, even if its flawed reasoning and totally unnecessery, even going so far as to greatly undermine the power of the scene as it originally was (one of the best/most iconic scenes in the entire trilogy, perfect as it was IMO).

He´s trying to create symmetry between the PT and OT by having both trilogies end with Anakin/Vader going ´No................................!´, linking OT Vader to PT Vader and emphasising that they´re the same person. I know, its like storytelling 101, emphasising a point that is already obvious, but in George´s mind it was absolutely necessery

There´s no reason that I can see for changing puppet Yoda into digital Yoda. It would be expensive and for no real purpose. That´s why I think George will never do it, however nuts he may seem to us now.

[kenobi3]

Originally Posted by Moviefan2k4

I'd love to have a full-size poster of this, if Lucas ever releases one. It'd look so awesome on my wall!

i've got it ! every year with the lucasfilm magazine which is (was) the french fan club we had a poster for the member ! and it was a poster one year !

[double_l4488]

Originally Posted by Vashetti

I hope one day he does replace the puppet.

It's one thing when he starts messing up ROTJ and even ANH, but ESB is different. It's the hallowed one, maybe b/c Lucas did not write it or direct. The less he messes with it the better. The extra vader scene added already was not needed.

[DarthMarino]

Originally Posted by Moviefan2k4

I'd love to have a full-size poster of this, if Lucas ever releases one. It'd look so awesome on my wall!

http://www.amazon.com/Movies-Posters-Characters-Poster-91-5x61cm/dp/B001TURB2U

[DarkRuler4Life]

you know im watching Blue Harvest and i realized that Han shoots first, which is close to the original that we will get even if it is in animated form in this day and age

[Cobra33]

can someone who has the bluray already confirm if that stupid "krayt dragon" obiwan call is really real or not? it sounds very phony to me.

[Cobra33]

Originally Posted by Vashetti

I hope one day he does replace the puppet.

I'll probably be shot down for this but I find the puppet hilariously fake and would celebrate the day it becomes CGI.

wow i am defiently gonna have to shoot you down for this. no way does the CGI cartoon look more real then the puppet yoda.

[NYorker]

Originally Posted by kingkong650

And yet there´s method to his madness as far as the Vader dialogue change is concerned. Yes, adding the ´no´, then ´no......................!´ is awful and cringeworthy, especially the cheesy way its delivered with that echo effect, but one can see what George is thinking, even if its flawed reasoning and totally unnecessery, even going so far as to greatly undermine the power of the scene as it originally was (one of the best/most iconic scenes in the entire trilogy, perfect as it was IMO).

He´s trying to create symmetry between the PT and OT by having both trilogies end with Anakin/Vader going ´No................................!´, linking OT Vader to PT Vader and emphasising that they´re the same person. I know, its like storytelling 101, emphasising a point that is already obvious, but in George´s mind it was absolutely necessery

There´s no reason that I can see for changing puppet Yoda into digital Yoda. It would be expensive and for no real purpose. That´s why I think George will never do it, however nuts he may seem to us now.

For 30 years it was good and now it needed change...?

[CodyCourtBlack2]

is yoda going digital in all six films?

is the empire of dreams documentary going to be included?

[Weirded Wonder]

Originally Posted by Cobra33

can someone who has the bluray already confirm if that stupid "krayt dragon" obiwan call is really real or not? it sounds very phony to me.

Oh it's real. Right after that Ben says, "Sorry. Beans for lunch."

[Moviefan2k4]

Originally Posted by NYorker

For 30 years it was good and now it needed change...?

Well, it appears to be Lucas' opinion that "it was the best I could do for 30 years, and now I can make it better". As misguided as some may think he is, it really seems like he's doing what he believes is right, to connect as much of the overall story together as possible. Folks say, "why does the OT get most of the changes?", and IMO, Lucas' reason is probably akin to, "because the advances in film-making allowed me to do the PT like I wanted, but I had to rush things with the OT...so now, I'm fixing it".

[Falaskan]

Originally Posted by Bukax42

I think entire trilogy should me remade as 100% CGI movies, just in case.

And what about Jabba in ROTJ? It looks nothing like the one in ANH. Come on George, replace it with CGI!

have you seen ppl on The Biggest Loser after they've lost over half their bodyweight? They don't even look the same. In this case Jabba has become a giant obese slug so he's not going to look the same.

[CodyCourtBlack2]

i'm not going to be able to preorder this. i hope best buy or target will have enough copies on opening day if i were to walk in and pick one up.

[Moviefan2k4]

Originally Posted by PixarPerfect

is yoda going digital in all six films?

is the empire of dreams documentary going to be included?

As far as I know, the answers to both questions is "no". Yoda will be completely digital in the PT, and while Lucas is doing some minor changes for the OT, Frank Oz's original puppetry will be left mostly intact. Also, "Empire of Dreams" isn't being included on this release, probably because Lucas wanted to show some stuff that folks hadn't seen recently.

[Weirded Wonder]

Originally Posted by NYorker

For 30 years it was good and now it needed change...?

I never realized Anakin and Vader were the same person until that No was put in. I was like, hey I know that No from somewhere. Wasn't there another movie with someone saying No and crying a lot and killing lemmings or younglings.

I always assumed Vader had some flesh eating disease that ate away his jaw so he needed that suit to talk for him, because just a voice box would have been kind of creepy. I guess they could have taped the voice box to the roof of his mouth, but they were going for PG here. At least I think that's what George's original notes say about him. Vader - creepy old guy that smoked too much back in the 60s.

[Weirded Wonder]

Originally Posted by Moviefan2k4

Well, it appears to be Lucas' opinion that "it was the best I could do for 30 years, and now I can make it better". As misguided as some may think he is, it really seems like he's doing what he believes is right, to connect as much of the overall story together as possible. Folks say, "why does the OT get most of the changes?", and IMO, Lucas' reason is probably akin to, "because the advances in film-making allowed me to do the PT like I wanted, but I had to rush things with the OT...so now, I'm fixing it".

If George were to do what is right he would put some pants on Jabba in the latest version. Maybe give him a pipe too.

[CodyCourtBlack2]

what is on the archival discs? is there a list of that content anywhere?