Star Wars and Indiana Jones question?

[Afrobean]

Originally Posted by AFightingPanda

I remember there being an urban legend that when Lucas had gotten the new reels for the special edition versions of the film he burned all the originals. A hole pops up since two or so years later he released those single dvds that had both versions available on them. Makes for an interesting story though.

Not much of a "hole" there, since the recent release of the theatrical cut is sourced from an old LASERDISC master.

[tlimof]

Originally Posted by BozQ

Grain should be the least of your concerns. I've heard Lucas is going to digitally change all the Ewoks to Gungans, retconning Endor to Naboo.

LOL Good one I actually think Spielberg and Lucas won't disappoint us, and they'll great blus from this movies.

[GeneD5]

Whatever happens the star wars thread when it is released on blu will turn out to be the biggest ***** fest in the history of history. I'm hoping they go dts hd master audio...I can't wait to hear lightsabers swirling around my living room!

[The Dragon]

Originally Posted by GeneD5

...I can't wait to hear lightsabers swirling around my living room!

!!!!!!!!!!

[jceperley]

I've actually heard that there are still some old 35mm prints around of the original versions, so they could be cleaned up and fixed. Or they could try to create a new master from the LD rips?

I just don't understand why Lucas hates them so much and refuses to do a decent release of the theatrical versions. Sure, he might have problems with them, but we have more problems with the new versions. I just like what Ridley "King of the Director's Cut" Scott has done by using seamless branching and other ways to present multiple cuts of his films on DVD and Blu. I even remember what he says on his intro to the theatrical cut of Blade Runner, something like "This ISN'T my prefered cut of the film, but some people are fans of it, so if your one of them, here it is..."

Why can't Lucas just be a man and say, I might not like it, but some people do, lets do a decent release this time around. None of this childish attitude saying, oh I don't like it, so no one can have it.

Sorry for the rant, but I have issues with this and it's something I can't stand. But, here's a simple question for everyone that I just thought of: Why not have the Criterion Collection handle the release, then you know we can have a proper release on Blu.

[Esox50]

Originally Posted by KaiGusto

you got to be kidding, i watched Last Crusade on dvd the other week, it was bloody pristine, granted it was upscalled, but hell, it was so clear and the colours were nice as.

Yes, it's called sarcasm.

[syncguy]

Originally Posted by steve_dave

Lowry Digital Images handled the restoration for Raiders, Temple, Last Crusade, A New Hope, Empire, and Return of the Jedi.

The DVDs sre representative of Lowry's work and Lowry also elminates at least 95-98% of the film grain regardless of the film stock used.

I watched the restoration documentary for Roman Holiday and the interview with John Lowry made me laugh...paraphrasing since I'm not going to load this DVD: "Our intention is to remove any film granularity and imperfections while also being true to the filmmakers' original intentions."

The only instances I've noticed in Lowry Restorations where the grain was still there are in scenes where the grain is indistinguishable from elements in the shot. I.E. Removing the grain also removes rain, bugs, and other objects that can be confused with grain.

Don't get me wrong they do good work but as in the case of Once Upon A Time in The West, it may not be the right way to do a restoration.

This means excessive DNR and possibly EE. Are they saying they are going to make a mess out of IJ transfers. Details are in the grain. It may be okay to remove details for the DVD but not for the blu-ray. No point of having a blu-ray without the details....

[Dotpattern]

I think a good indication of how great the Indiana Jones movies will look on BD can be found on the Crystal Skull BD. The teaser trailer, which is in HD, contains footage from the first 3 films and those shots look awesome!

[RiseDarthVader]

Lucas probably has the 2K scans of the Star Wars negatives stored somewhere so if in the future if he decides to release them he can pull those out. And as far as I know he tracked down all the cinemas that kept their prints because some parts of the negatives were damaged beyond repair.

[Elvis]

Originally Posted by GeneD5

Whatever happens the star wars thread when it is released on blu will turn out to be the biggest ***** fest in the history of history. I'm hoping they go dts hd master audio...I can't wait to hear lightsabers swirling around my living room!

I hope so and I hope im the one that starts the thread. They just better give us the un-raped versions and clean them up as good as Patton looks then us old geezers will be happy!

[Beta Man]

Originally Posted by Elvis

I hope so and I hope im the one that starts the thread. They just better give us the un-raped versions and clean them up as good as Patton looks then us old geezers will be happy!

without the Excessive DNR you mean....... I think Patton looks great too.... but they didn't need that much DNR.

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by Beta Man

without the Excessive DNR you mean....... I think Patton looks great too.... but they didn't need that much DNR.

I dunno how much DNR movies that were filmed with a blue screen will really need. I just hope they look a lot better than the DVDs which really don't look too bad at all for DVDs.

[Duffy12]

Originally Posted by Blu2U

YES!!! LucasFilm keeps all of their stuff in great shape. That is one company that takes care of their shyt. Really. Say what you want about George, but he is quite anal about quality.

Then I take it that you never saw the Star Wars trilogy DVDs released a few years back.

Just off of the top of my head:

- Crushed blacks throughout IV.
- Blooming oranges and greens in the space explosions.
- Blooming fluorescent blue on Artoo in eps IV and V.
- Blooming pinks during the gun battles aboard the blockade runner and in docking bay 94.
- Fluorescent red on the X-wings.
- Screwed up sound in IV.
- Outright removal and toning down of some of John Williams's classic score.
- Lightsabers changing colors throughout IV and V.

So the grain is the least of our worries here.

How the MIGHTY have fallen.

.

[syncguy]

Originally Posted by Duffy12

Then I take it that you never saw the Star Wars trilogy DVDs released a few years back.

Just off of the top of my head:

- Crushed blacks throughout IV.
- Blooming oranges and greens in the space explosions.
- Blooming fluorescent blue on Artoo in eps IV and V.
- Blooming pinks during the gun battles aboard the blockade runner and in docking bay 94.
- Fluorescent red on the X-wings.
- Screwed up sound in IV.
- Outright removal and toning down of some of John Williams's classic score.
- Lightsabers changing colors throughout IV and V.

So the grain is the least of our worries here.

How the MIGHTY have fallen.

.

This sounds like a disaster. I haven't watched the DVD.

I will wait for the blu-ray to watch again... Hopefully all problems will be fixed and no excessive DNR and EE especially.

[al cos.]

Yeah, if you get the dvds with both versions you can choose between the the fugly weird cartoon colors of the new version or the cruddy 1993 quality of the original versions. Stay classy lucasfilm, just keep focused on those Yoda bobble heads.

[Ray_Rogers]

I certainly hope the 1980's Indiana Jones Trilogy will be released onto Blu-ray. Of course with all the extras from the 2003 and not too long ago individual releases. Of course I'd like more to see all those extras which were Laserdiscs and even VHS to be on the appropriate film it's for. I even saw showings of Raiders of the Lost Ark a couple weeks ago and Last Crusade only last week for Flashback Thursdays at my local cineplex. Both on the large screen. No idea why they didn't have Temple of Doom.
Star Wars? No thanks, I already have series burnout for awhile. Damn hilarious that Clone Wars movie is on Blu-ray.
Yes, I'm much more of an Indiana Jones fan compared to Star Wars.
Speaking of Lucasfilm Ltd. titles, I wonder when TUCKER: A Man and His Dream and WILLOW will be released onto Blu-ray? Honestly I want those two titles far more compared to any STAR WARS feature film.
Speaking of Temple of Doom, I do consider, in a way, Gunga Din to be the predecessor film/story to it. "You're a better man than I am, Gunga Din."