The Avatar Blu-ray Release Thread - Page 239 - Blu-ray Forum

RocShemp · 04-28-2010, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Mahatma

Anyone here got the BD+DVD of avatar here?Guess so,but for those who have:Is the DVD a bad transfer,or is it just that the BD shines so bright?Compared them,and the DVD-I thought-looked horrible.But I may very well have been blinded by the PQ on the BD.

It's a very solid DVD transfer. Avatar comparison *PIX*

lDlisturb3d · 04-28-2010, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by RocShemp

It's a very solid DVD transfer. Avatar comparison *PIX*

Those are close ups, try the forrest. It looked like crap. Even for a DVD.

Suntory_Times · 04-28-2010, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by lDlisturb3d

Those are close ups, try the forrest. It looked like crap. Even for a DVD.

Thats simply as the codecs and bandwidth available is not enough to display it well.

jadedeath · 04-28-2010, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by SSBlu

Yeah it is incredible.

Its also on the Indiana Jones & The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull Blu-ray.

Yeah, but people will actually watch {and enjoy} the Avatar blu-ray.

Logan

STARSCREAM · 04-28-2010, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SSBlu

Yeah it is incredible.

Its also on the Indiana Jones & The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull Blu-ray.

It wasn't in lossless audio I don't think on KOTCS though, whereas Avatar has it in DTS-HDMA.

And YES, it is incredible.

jadedeath · 04-28-2010, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Gandalf Stormcrow

While this will probably become the best-selling blu-ray ever, it will also move an insane number of copies on DVD so it would make little sense to make a bad DVD transfer on purpose.

I'm not sure what the final numbers will be but crushing the 30% margin doesn't really mean that it sold THAT many DVD's.

Logan

pro-bassoonist · 04-28-2010, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jadedeath

I'm not sure what the final numbers will be but crushing the 30% margin doesn't really mean that it sold THAT many DVD's.

Logan

Good evening,

I just wanted to say hello to an old friend

Good to see you posting again, Logan!

Pro-B

mrpink134 · 04-28-2010, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by RocShemp

Avatar 2 EXCLUSIVE FIRST LOOK preview

nolfoc · 04-28-2010, 04:25 AM

i must say its really amazing how many post their are in a thread about a release... Avatar truely is one of a kind

LetoAtreides82 · 04-28-2010, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by RocShemp

Avatar 2 EXCLUSIVE FIRST LOOK preview

lDlisturb3d · 04-28-2010, 04:34 AM

OMG that some funny crap.

Jr7936 · 04-28-2010, 06:02 AM

I know i am probabaly so in the minoity but this film to me isn't even in the top 5 films of the year. My 1st choice is Red Cliff and I feel in terms of story telling and epic battle scenes avatar just doesn't compare
but then again thats just me

Suntory_Times · 04-28-2010, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Jr7936

I know i am probabaly so in the minoity but this film to me isn't even in the top 5 films of the year. My 1st choice is Red Cliff and I feel in terms of story telling and epic battle scenes avatar just doesn't compare
but then again thats just me

Nothing wrong with that. What do you think of this blu ray release though as this is the thread about the disc, not the movie itself.

(Though I guess I shouldn't talk about others bieng off topic in this thread

).

Jr7936 · 04-28-2010, 07:04 AM

the pq and the audio was good even though my tv only gets 1080i

skoselger · 04-28-2010, 08:15 AM

i compared 720p version of avatar vs 1080p version of avatar on my 106" full hd projector and i couldnt see any differents in CGI scenes and i only saw very small minor deifferentces on real humans skin and i had to stand very close to see that. 1080p and 720p are practically the same. Maybe you need 150" inch to see the difference.

Kyo28 · 04-28-2010, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by skoselger

i compared 720p version of avatar vs 1080p version of avatar on my 106" full hd projector and i couldnt see any differents in CGI scenes and i only saw very small minor deifferentces on real humans skin and i had to stand very close to see that. 1080p and 720p are practically the same. Maybe you need 150" inch to see the difference.

Perhaps a stupid question but where did you get a 720p version of Avatar?
DVD = 480p
Blu-ray = 1080p
Is 720p some kind of HD broadcast or online rental perhaps?

I can't comment on Avatar but I have seen other movies in 720p (digital distribution) vs 1080p (Blu-ray) comparisons and still found that 1080 in some scenes had more detail. In other scenes the difference in detail wasn't as pronounced but conversely the colours would have more pop in 1080p and feel more lively (probably because there are more color shades used in the 1080p?). Perhaps the fact that the 720p bitrate had to be lowered for digital distribution also played a part in this but in general I feel that even though 720 looked good, 1080 in general still looked better in detail and color.

garyrc · 04-28-2010, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Suntory_Times

It's all got to do with viewing distance. I don't personally fell as if there's much advantage of going beyond 2k. But I don't like the massive imax screen and prefer to sit 1.5 screenhights away from the screen.

The IMAX screen is too nearly square for me.

I guess I'm just spoiled by the giant, curved screens in the 70 mm theaters that used to be in the Bay Area. For many films, 1.5 screen heights would be O.K. -- ultimately it's a matter of personal taste, of course -- but the following 70 mm films are damn near hypnotic with a much bigger image on one's retinas

:

2001, Grand Prix, Around the World in 80 Days(1956), The Sound of Music, West Side Story, Close Encounters of the Third Kind, Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back, etc.

Another group of 70 mm films benefit from an equally large screen, although they have many more close-ups ... it becomes "the face as landscape." These would include Ben Hur

skoselger · 04-28-2010, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyo28

Perhaps a stupid question but where did you get a 720p version of Avatar?
DVD = 480p
Blu-ray = 1080p
Is 720p some kind of HD broadcast or online rental perhaps?

I can't comment on Avatar but I have seen other movies in 720p (digital distribution) vs 1080p (Blu-ray) comparisons and still found that 1080 in some scenes had more detail. In other scenes the difference in detail wasn't as pronounced but conversely the colours would have more pop in 1080p and feel more lively (probably because there are more color shades used in the 1080p?). Perhaps the fact that the 720p bitrate had to be lowered for digital distribution also played a part in this but in general I feel that even though 720 looked good, 1080 in general still looked better in detail and color.

i downloaded just for comparison. i have also bought it on bluray.

Kyo28 · 04-28-2010, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by skoselger

i downloaded just for comparison. i have also bought it on bluray.

Ah OK, thanks for clarifying. So the lowered bitrate and resolution didn't have all that big an effect on the quality?

skoselger · 04-28-2010, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyo28

Ah OK, thanks for clarifying. So the lowered bitrate and resolution didn't have all that big an effect on the quality?

i didnt compare it to bluray. i compared 2 x264 files.

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04-28-2010, 04:25 AM	#4769
nolfoc Banned Top contributor Member since:Nov 2008 Blu-ray collection:- Blu-ray reviews: 108 Trading Score:49	i must say its really amazing how many post their are in a thread about a release... Avatar truely is one of a kind

04-28-2010, 04:34 AM	#4771
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04-28-2010, 06:02 AM	#4772
Jr7936 Blu-ray Count Top contributor Member since:Oct 2009 4K collection:44 Blu-ray collection:1299 DVD collection:167 Digital collection:49 Trading Score:245	I know i am probabaly so in the minoity but this film to me isn't even in the top 5 films of the year. My 1st choice is Red Cliff and I feel in terms of story telling and epic battle scenes avatar just doesn't compare but then again thats just me

04-28-2010, 07:04 AM	#4774
Jr7936 Blu-ray Count Top contributor Member since:Oct 2009 4K collection:44 Blu-ray collection:1299 DVD collection:167 Digital collection:49 Trading Score:245	the pq and the audio was good even though my tv only gets 1080i

04-28-2010, 08:15 AM	#4775
skoselger Member Member since:Mar 2010 Blu-ray collection:16 Blu-ray reviews:3	i compared 720p version of avatar vs 1080p version of avatar on my 106" full hd projector and i couldnt see any differents in CGI scenes and i only saw very small minor deifferentces on real humans skin and i had to stand very close to see that. 1080p and 720p are practically the same. Maybe you need 150" inch to see the difference.

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