The Avatar Blu-ray Release Thread

[Duffy12]

And do not forget that cable channels are going to start showing sporting events in 3D too. In fact, a few months ago one already stared up somewhere, I believe showing European football.

[Beast]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Smith

Im just pointing out that creating movies especially movies on Avatars massive scale require energy to produce. While Cameron is content to demonize them and potray corperatations searching for energy as the spawn of Satan the fact remains that it took alot of resources and alot of carbon emissions to make this movie. The energy used to run Wetas renderfarms had to come from either nuclear power or fossil fuels which were found or produced by big corperations. What is Hollywood except a collection of big corperations that do everything and anything to make money. Seems to me Cameron has alot more in common with the human mercenaries in Avatar then he does to Jake or the Navi.

By releasing Avatar in mutiple versions ensures that alot more discs will wind up in landfulls poluting our world. Discs that could have been saved if Avatar was released in 3D now

Sometimes, I almost think you're joking. Especially with that last paragraph about the landfills. You really can't be serious.

[Jimmy Smith]

Originally Posted by Beast

Sometimes, I almost think you're joking. Especially with that last paragraph about the landfills. You really can't be serious.

I partially am. Its called Illustrating absurdity by being absurd. Im simply trying to point out the absurity of Camerons little environmentalist crusade and what moronic joke the entire "Earth first" movement is.

One of the best ways is to match the statements of self important elitists like Cameron and how there actions and behavior never matches there self rightous statements. Fact is any human being who has the nerve to claim DVDs are wasteful while releasing so many different editions with the obvious goal of getting people to buy the movie multiple times is a hypocritical douchbag of the highest order.

[DRS]

The only person being absurd here is you.

[Beast]

Originally Posted by DRS

The only person being absurd here is you.

Bingo.

[DRS]

If anything, Cameron is actually reducing the number of Discs by releasing Avatar 3D seperately.

Releasing the Disc with the collectors edition would be a waste as most people would have no use for the disc.

Now THAT is utter waste.

Releasing it seperately would mean a smaller, more controlled run, as they would take into account the amount of people with 3D TVs.

[Baloo]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Smith

By releasing Avatar in mutiple versions ensures that alot more discs will wind up in landfulls poluting our world. Discs that could have been saved if Avatar was released in 3D now

It's true that the planet will ultimately be undone by discarded Avatar discs.

[Jimmy Smith]

Originally Posted by Baloo

It's true that the planet will ultimately be undone by discarded Avatar discs.

Seems every bit as likely as every other environmental scare

[TheCropChick]

Originally Posted by Beast

Sometimes, I almost think you're joking. Especially with that last paragraph about the landfills. You really can't be serious.

The 3d version hasn't been released yet?

[goresnet]

Originally Posted by kippy

Really? everything i've read suggested the 16 minutes includes the 9 from the special edition?

Originally Posted by drtre81

NM read wrong.

Thanks guys. That's what I thought, just wanted the clarification.

[Suntory_Times]

Originally Posted by DRS

Plus, including 3D would only unfairly jack up the price of the Collectors Edition. Its a feature 95% of people wouldn't be able to use, so why bother. (look at Disneys Christmas Carol and its $50 MSRP. Avatar CE with 3D would be even more expensive, I guarantee you)

Releasing the 3D version seperately is just the smart thing to do.

What a load of bull. It's purely for money, there is no need for an extra disc. You could just have the 3d version, which plays in 2d (as is required by blu-ray standards). 3d doesn't add extra cost of any sizable proportions, just look at Cloudy with a chance of meatballs, also think when the last time you paid MSRP for a blu-ray. The MSRP for kick-ass was $40 and most titles MSRP for non catalogue releases are somewhere between $40 and $45, I sure hope no one pays that though.

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by Suntory_Times

What a load of bull. It's purely for money, there is no need for an extra disc. You could just have the 3d version, which plays in 2d (as is required by blu-ray standards). 3d doesn't add extra cost of any sizable proportions, just look at Cloudy with a chance of meatballs, also think when the last time you paid MSRP for a blu-ray. The MSRP for kick-ass was $40 and most titles MSRP for non catalogue releases are somewhere between $40 and $45, I sure hope no one pays that though.

The only times I see other people buying blu-rays they're always grossly overpaying so your hope is in vain.

[Beast]

Originally Posted by Suntory_Times

What a load of bull. It's purely for money, there is no need for an extra disc. You could just have the 3d version, which plays in 2d (as is required by blu-ray standards). 3d doesn't add extra cost of any sizable proportions, just look at Cloudy with a chance of meatballs, also think when the last time you paid MSRP for a blu-ray. The MSRP for kick-ass was $40 and most titles MSRP for non catalogue releases are somewhere between $40 and $45, I sure hope no one pays that though.

It would require a seperate disc in this case. Given the 3 cuts of the film and the extras.

Not to mention the length of the film, clocking in at roughly 3-Hours in it's self.

Hell, they even had to drop features on the Cloudy/Meatballs Blu-Ray to include both versions.

So your point doesn't hold water in this case, as it would indeed require a seperate disc.

One of which would be pointless for most consumers, due to the slow adoption of 3D TVs.

[Jimmy Smith]

Originally Posted by Beast

Hell, they even had to drop features on the Cloudy/Meatballs Blu-Ray to include both versions.

Not true. Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs 3D used less then 40 gigabytes with the feature taking up around 25. The dropped audio commentary was only on the DVD included in the 2D versions Blu-Ray set. The 3D version is just Blu-Ray and only ported over what was on the Blu-Ray. Space issues had nothing to do with it.

It is true that the extended cut of Avatar in 3D will most likley need two discs but the quality 3D it produces would be more then worth it. Since the multiple cuts could be done with seemless branching that is inconsequencal. A version has already been released with the movie on one disc. The Lord of the Rings Extended Cuts are spread over 2 DVDs its really not that bad. Its worth it to have the best version of Avatar home theatre can offer.

[Suntory_Times]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Smith

Not true. Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs 3D used less then 40 gigabytes with the feature taking up around 25. The dropped audio commentary was only on the DVD included in the 2D versions Blu-Ray set. The 3D version is just Blu-Ray and only ported over what was on the Blu-Ray. Space issues had nothing to do with it.

It is true that the extended cut of Avatar in 3D will most likley need two discs but the quality 3D it produces would be more then worth it. Since the multiple cuts could be done with seemless branching that is inconsequencal. A version has already been released with the movie on one disc. The Lord of the Rings Extended Cuts are spread over 2 DVDs its really not that bad. Its worth it to have the best version of Avatar home theatre can offer.

Thankyou, I was about to point that out myself. Honestly, I can't believe anyone would believe the reasoning bieng put foward in this thread. Fanboyism taken to far defined. This coming from a huge fan of the film, I will no doub buy this blu-ray set, but i'm not lying to myself about the reson for 3d not bieng included.?

The argument bieng made here is really the same as saying Blu-ray shouldn't have bothered with 1080p or lossless audio, as most tv's and recievers upon it's release couldn't utilize it. :rolleseyes:

[Batman1980]

Wow Avatar's blu-ray share is 43%, actually expected it to be a bit higher but that's still very impressive.

[DRS]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Smith

Not true. Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs 3D used less then 40 gigabytes with the feature taking up around 25. The dropped audio commentary was only on the DVD included in the 2D versions Blu-Ray set. The 3D version is just Blu-Ray and only ported over what was on the Blu-Ray. Space issues had nothing to do with it.

It is true that the extended cut of Avatar in 3D will most likley need two discs but the quality 3D it produces would be more then worth it. Since the multiple cuts could be done with seemless branching that is inconsequencal. A version has already been released with the movie on one disc. The Lord of the Rings Extended Cuts are spread over 2 DVDs its really not that bad. Its worth it to have the best version of Avatar home theatre can offer.

Spreading a movie over 2 discs for the sake of a feature that barely anyone will use is a complete waste.

If having 3D on disc would mean splitting the movie, then thats just another reason why its fantastic that the 3D version is being sold seperately.

[Daredevil666]

I think the film will be on two discs, regardless of the absence of the 3D version.

If the original TC is included, that would be three different cuts on one disc. Lesser bitrate than the TC stand alone release, and a waste of electricity on several boards as punters will complain the movie is not as good looking as the original release due to lower bitrate, for months.

It might be that the TC is on disc one, and both the extended cuts on disc 2, but I doubt it, as the FPE release standing now on my desk do not mention the presence of the original TC.

Of course, I could wrong. Or I could be right.

Film spread on two discs.

[drtre81]

Originally Posted by Gandalf Stormcrow

Wow Avatar's blu-ray share is 43%, actually expected it to be a bit higher but that's still very impressive.

Well don't forget many of us are waiting for this version.

[Astrakan]

Originally Posted by dvdvision

I think the film will be on two discs, regardless of the absence of the 3D version.

If the original TC is included, that would be three different cuts on one disc. Lesser bitrate than the TC stand alone release...

Seamless branching.