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Salinger · 02-12-2008, 01:40 AM

The two (almost identical) statements released by Toshiba in response to the Netflix and Best Buy moves, really have a tone of resignation to them IMO. While I don't expect anything formal from them immediately, I really get the feeling from these statements, that the fight's all but gone from them. I really think this thing could be "officially" over a lot sooner than even the most optimistic among us believed possible.

w_tanoto · 02-12-2008, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Salinger

The two (almost identical) statements released by Toshiba in response to the Netflix and Best Buy moves, really have a tone of resignation to them IMO. While I don't expect anything formal from them immediately, I really get the feeling from these statements, that the fight's all but gone from them. I really think this thing could be "officially" over a lot sooner than even the most optimistic among us believed possible.

as you can see.... HD DVD PRG = Toshiba . BDA is not Sony

they are in despair. see the statement where they said " at least they still offer HD DVD to give consumer a choice"

jk1138 · 02-12-2008, 02:02 AM

I do not get it, what can you say...Toshiba it is over let it die, please Hospice is no fun for anyone

Terjyn · 02-12-2008, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Evan702

Uni & Paramount to stop making DVDs and only make combo discs and make the MSRP the same as regulard DVDS.

Now imagine you are Warner, Fox, Sony, Disney, or Lionsgate and this happened.

What on Earth would possess you to go HDDVD at this point? The guaranteed loss of billions in DVD revenue?

HDDVDites have long claimed this as the holy grail for HDDVD. I think it'd be hilarious because HDDVDers would love it yet it would literally be the death knell for HDDVD.

I wholeheartedly support Uni & Paramount doing this. The loss in revenue might make them learn something.

blu-backer · 02-12-2008, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by LynxFX

Toshiba went all in quite awhile ago. The BDA is just taking their time counting the chips.

Love the analogy. So true.

clownface · 02-12-2008, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Sonny

They will never admit defeat

it will just happen one day....

I agree!

The Big Blue · 02-12-2008, 02:31 AM

The HD DVD PG throughout history.....

"Sep. 12, 1958: We have long held the belief that the Ford Edsel is the best car for consumers based on quality and value, and with more than 5,000 Edsels in consumer driveways, it's unfortunate to see Ford make the decision to stop Edsel production going forward."

GTP · 02-12-2008, 02:33 AM

We regret to see Neflix going Blu forward, but we would like the chance to sell a bit more than 1 million players until we get rid of all these stock piled boat anchors and a few more coasters.
At that point Paramount and Universal are free to go forward with their all Blu plans.

blu-backer · 02-12-2008, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by The Big Blue

The HD DVD PG throughout history.....

"Sep. 12, 1958: We have long held the belief that the Ford Edsel is the best car for consumers based on quality and value, and with more than 5,000 Edsels in consumer driveways, it's unfortunate to see Ford make the decision to stop Edsel production going forward."

"The consumer has not chosen and we can clearly show that the attach rates for the Edsels are much better than the competition."

Sylin · 02-12-2008, 03:14 AM

This press release sounds EXACTLY like the one the HD DVD PG released when Warner switched. It was an obvious cut-n-paste job, with just the names changed. My guess is that the PR spin doctors for HD DVD need all the time they can to get their resume's up on Monster and Career Builder before the ship sinks.

desmond · 02-12-2008, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by GTP

We regret to see Neflix going Blu forward, but we would like the chance to sell a bit more than 1 million players until we get rid of all these stock piled boat anchors and a few more coasters.
At that point Paramount and Universal are free to go forward with their all Blu plans.

man, that's funny.

kolasi · 02-12-2008, 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by cartman781

Man Toshiba has to have the worst PR department in history. Their fans can spin better than this.

lmao so true. the dud fans make each loss seem like a victory for themselves.

Jackietreehorn · 02-12-2008, 03:54 AM

It's sad, I can honestly see them releasing the EXACT same press release and just putting their own name in place of Netflix. I wonder if anyone there would even catch it before it was sent out...

venom121584 · 02-12-2008, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by greekjgg

Toshiba has let go, they just haven't officially announced this yet. They new with the Warner annoucement a month ago that the writing was on the wall.

As many have speculated, they are just liquidating at $150 for these units. If they admitted defeat today, they would have to mark these down to $50. COntinuing a brave front means they can try and get a few more suckers to buy in thinking they are getting a good deal.

Everything that has been speculated has taken place so far.

so why are are there still huge fan boys for hd dud? why are they not able to see the big picture? I mean blu ray is

the poop out of them.

Big Daddy · 02-12-2008, 03:58 AM

HD DVD Promotional Group’s reaction to the announcement by Toshiba that they will abandon HD-DVD and start manufacturing Blu-Ray players (future date):

“We have long held the belief that HD DVD is the best format for consumers based on quality and value, and with more than 1 million HD DVD players on the market, it's unfortunate to see Toshiba make the decision to only manufacture Blu-Ray players going forward. While the Toshiba announcement says they will support Blu-Ray, at least they will be remembered as the company that was in total denial for an extended period of time and offered consumers a choice at retail.”

Joon · 02-12-2008, 04:04 AM

Big Daddy, that was hilarious.

pro-bassoonist · 02-12-2008, 04:07 AM

It is as delusional of a statement as I have ever seen. Regardless of how they market HDDVD it is all downhill and facts are there to be seen.

Pro-B

simpspin · 02-12-2008, 04:09 AM

About the only thing Toshiba could do at this point is try to buy out Sony and remanufacture the PS3's to play HD DVD based media.

JohnGalt · 02-12-2008, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by blu-rayfan101

At least they have a template!

Seems pretty obvious that they laid off the spin department following CES. No need to throw good money after bad.

Tizflizz · 02-12-2008, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnGalt

Seems pretty obvious that they laid off the spin department following CES. No need to throw good money after bad.

+1

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02-12-2008, 01:40 AM	#41
Salinger Active Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Toronto, ON	The two (almost identical) statements released by Toshiba in response to the Netflix and Best Buy moves, really have a tone of resignation to them IMO. While I don't expect anything formal from them immediately, I really get the feeling from these statements, that the fight's all but gone from them. I really think this thing could be "officially" over a lot sooner than even the most optimistic among us believed possible.

02-12-2008, 02:02 AM	#43
jk1138 Special Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:FL Blu-ray collection:32 Blu-ray reviews:59 Trading Score:27	I do not get it, what can you say...Toshiba it is over let it die, please Hospice is no fun for anyone

02-12-2008, 02:31 AM	#47
The Big Blue Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2007 Blu-ray collection:98 Blu-ray reviews:1	The HD DVD PG throughout history..... "Sep. 12, 1958: We have long held the belief that the Ford Edsel is the best car for consumers based on quality and value, and with more than 5,000 Edsels in consumer driveways, it's unfortunate to see Ford make the decision to stop Edsel production going forward."

02-12-2008, 02:33 AM	#48
GTP Expert Member Member since:Jan 2006 Trading Score:1	We regret to see Neflix going Blu forward, but we would like the chance to sell a bit more than 1 million players until we get rid of all these stock piled boat anchors and a few more coasters. At that point Paramount and Universal are free to go forward with their all Blu plans.

02-12-2008, 03:14 AM	#50
Sylin Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Nashville Blu-ray collection:1 Trading Score:159	This press release sounds EXACTLY like the one the HD DVD PG released when Warner switched. It was an obvious cut-n-paste job, with just the names changed. My guess is that the PR spin doctors for HD DVD need all the time they can to get their resume's up on Monster and Career Builder before the ship sinks.

02-12-2008, 03:54 AM	#53
Jackietreehorn Member Member since:Nov 2007	It's sad, I can honestly see them releasing the EXACT same press release and just putting their own name in place of Netflix. I wonder if anyone there would even catch it before it was sent out...

02-12-2008, 03:58 AM	#55
Big Daddy Blu-ray Champion Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Southern California Home Theater Gallery:79 Blu-ray collection:122 Trading Score:1	HD DVD Promotional Group’s reaction to the announcement by Toshiba that they will abandon HD-DVD and start manufacturing Blu-Ray players (future date): “We have long held the belief that HD DVD is the best format for consumers based on quality and value, and with more than 1 million HD DVD players on the market, it's unfortunate to see Toshiba make the decision to only manufacture Blu-Ray players going forward. While the Toshiba announcement says they will support Blu-Ray, at least they will be remembered as the company that was in total denial for an extended period of time and offered consumers a choice at retail.”

02-12-2008, 04:04 AM	#56
Joon Expert Member Member since:Aug 2007 Blu-ray collection:208 Trading Score:1	Big Daddy, that was hilarious.

02-12-2008, 04:07 AM	#57
pro-bassoonist Blu-ray reviewer Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:X Home Theater Gallery:47 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Blu-ray reviews: 31 Trading Score:23	It is as delusional of a statement as I have ever seen. Regardless of how they market HDDVD it is all downhill and facts are there to be seen. Pro-B

02-12-2008, 04:09 AM	#58
simpspin Active Member Member since:Dec 2006	About the only thing Toshiba could do at this point is try to buy out Sony and remanufacture the PS3's to play HD DVD based media.

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