Square Enix: 360 Easier To Program For Than PS3

[saprano]

Originally Posted by BluOgre

I read about this and I laughed. It's kind of funny while he is talking up the X360 on one hand and in his other is a fat big check from MS.

And for the record it isn't SE that is talking up the X360, it's actually one director from a poor performing game. It's ironic how he says the X360 is so easy and wonderful to develope for yet his game was complete crap.

Yea its funny how all news storys do that to all companies. one guy from sony, nintendo, or MS might say something in his opinion and they report it as if the whole corporation feels that way.

[aygie]

Wasn't the Last Remnant full of bugs and dismissed by reviewers?

Yeah SE its easy to develop a turd game, it takes effort to create something great. Unchartered, MGS4 i'm looking at you.

[saprano]

Heh

[BluOgre]

Originally Posted by robinandtami

Well in the very near future.... you will find yourself with very few games to choose from. As games become more and more expensive, and as we continue to go without a clear leader in the hd console race; more and more developers will have no choice but to go multi-platform.

More and more developers.......who exactly is left to go multiplatform exactly? 1st party titles lol?

Aside from MGS4 there is nothing left to go multiplatform unless Sony starts making X360 games.

[jkwest]

[Terjyn]

Originally Posted by BluOgre

More and more developers.......who exactly is left to go multiplatform exactly? 1st party titles lol?

Aside from MGS4 there is nothing left to go multiplatform unless Sony starts making X360 games.

Resistance, Ratchet and Clank, Little Big Planet, White Knight Chronicles/Story, Final Fantasy vs XIII, NIS(and other companies making JRPGs too small for Microsoft to bribe).

There are still a lot of non-Sony exclusives out there.

[Hedchekr]

Originally Posted by saprano

The reason why i say these things, as i explained in the other thread, when everything is all positive about the ps3( as it has been till now) you never see 360 owners post in those threads( they might be here but they dont post)
now all of a sudden when the ps3 is so called sinking, dying, its over, they come out from everywhere. they post about how 360 is better than ps3, live is betten than PSN, i hate sony, sony sucks, good for sony, etc etc.

Thats funny. Thats the way most of the people on this site are, but for the PS3. Some people here are so biased towards the PS3 they look at everything else as inferior and offer no logical explantions to why. They are both great consoles, I have had all of the consoles including handhelds, and I can list honest opinions about each without bashing the others. Some here just bash.

[jkwest]

I'd buy an XXXX....I just need Sony to stop releasing so many damn good games on the PS3!!! They are eating up all my gaming moneys!!

[Uniquely]

Originally Posted by Hedchekr

Thats funny. Thats the way most of the people on this site are, but for the PS3. Some people here are so biased towards the PS3 they look at everything else as inferior and offer no logic explantions to why. They are both great consoles, I have had all of the consoles including handhelds, and I can list honest opinions about each without bashing the others. Some here just bash.

[Deadset]

Originally Posted by jkwest

I'd buy an XXXX....I just need Sony to stop releasing so many damn good games on the PS3!!! They are eating up all my gaming moneys!!

Be sure to check out the Jasper chipset thread in the offtopic forum

Edit: found the link https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=75360

[Septimus Prime]

THIS JUST IN: It's easier to write sloppy, bug-ridden code than it is to follow good programming guidelines!

The Last Remnant is the perfect example of such a masterpiece.

[Liquid-Prince]

Originally Posted by KingDeezie

I could be wrong, but how is the Unreal 3 engine archiac?

I was under the impression that Metal Gear Solid 4; the best looking game on the PS3 to this point, is using the UR3 engine.

You would be under the wrong impression. MGS4 did not use the UE3, but Kojima's own in house engine.

[Uniquely]

Originally Posted by Liquid-Prince

You would be under the wrong impression. MGS4 did not use the UE3, but Kojima's own in house engine.

He's only half wrong. There are some awesome games utilizing the UR3 engine. Gears 2 for one is a stellar game with beautiful graphics AND really great physics.

[fsavoie]

Originally Posted by Hedchekr

Thats funny. Thats the way most of the people on this site are, but for the PS3. Some people here are so biased towards the PS3 they look at everything else as inferior and offer no logic explantions to why. They are both great consoles, I have had all of the consoles including handhelds, and I can list honest opinions about each without bashing the others. Some here just bash.

I'm a fan of playstation from the begining and I don't have enough money to have more than one console but we heard a lot of "xbox is much easier to program" and "ps3 is so powerfull"... but at the end, even when you look at exclusive the difference is not so big (at least not like the difference between wii and ps3). So maybe its true that the xbox is easier enough to program to compensate for ps3 power

[Musashi]

Funny how this one guy at Squeenix favors Microsoft. Last few interviews from Square that I read were all guys very unhappy with Wada and anyone else who vited in favor of taking the payoffs. There's dissention to say the least.

And yea, I favor PlayStation, but I have valid reasons I can easily defend. Does that therefore, make me a fanboy too?

I regard Microsoft's attempts to push themselves into popularity in Japan to be a bad thing; Japan's gamers have voted against them, and pushing harder only bleeds more money and confuses gamers. I liked things better when the PS1 and PS2 were very popular in both Japan and America. 92% of my collection is Japanese, and having worldwide userbase means games will be made, and translated. Furthermore, while it is Square who made Last Remnant, it could be argued that if a game came from bribes, thus developers don't have to sell copies to make money, motivation to make the game good drops a bit.

Final note: I'm in Count Zero's club; I've enough unplayed games on my shelves to last a very long time.

[Septimus Prime]

No, really. Who isn't going to say that tried-and-true Windows is easier to program for than brand-new-technology Cell? Come on, now.

[TauRus]

Originally Posted by superdynamite

Developer of the RPG, Last Remnant, Hiroshi Takai talked about about which of the two consoles he'd rather be developing games for (PS3 vs. 360). Here is what he said:

"It's been the team's first time working with Xbox 360 and the Unreal Engine. In both cases the experience has been a positive one. In fact, as we've only just finished work on Last Remnant I don't even know what my next project is going to be at Square Enix. However, I'm very much hoping it'll be for Xbox 360 as it's been a lot easier to work with than PlayStation 3."[/B]

From my conversations with a few programmers, none of them would ever brag of liking an easier way of programming. They love fancy scripting languages, they will always take command line interface over any pretty graphical user interface - the more complex their job looks to a non-geek crowd, including their management, the better

[Avarice]

Originally Posted by AikonEnt

Every day I hear something like this makes me only want to buy games that have been developed for the PS3 only.

Thats what I do personally. I have like only one non exclusive game in my collection and that is oblivion.

[Avarice]

Originally Posted by robinandtami

But in many cases it does equal a more profitable product.

not true...check out the sales on TLR, lost od, and any other rpg on x360.

[Avarice]

Originally Posted by robinandtami

Or then... it could just mean a system with better developers support. I've read many developers say that the support they get from MS is second to none.

GG, naughty dog, and Konami would disagree with you on second to none as far as support goes. Plus the word "lazy" is what applies to developers this late in the game using the same ole' excuse after most every other developer has seem to have gotten the hang of the cell. Even EA has started getting games up and running same day and date.....and they usually suck in my book