LCD or PLASMA?

[Blu-Jawa]

I own LCD. but I am thinking about those Laser TV's that are coming. if they are not too high priced I may get one.

I heard Laser TV's look 100% Better than the Best LCD or Plasma.

[saprano]

Originally Posted by NJMetsFan

Also don't play the same game for hours at a time. I mean like 4+ hours. If you game for like 2-3 hours you should be ok. There was a few nights I played for like 3 hours and never had burn in. I had very little image retention, but it went away. The image retention was barely visible as well.

Ya see thats what i was talking, and worried about. i play games for more than 8 hours, one time i went 12 hours. i want a plasma but i dont want to worry about that stuff. i want to play as long as i want like i do now on my samsung, plasmas are great but burn in still there unfortunately. i need my own place quick! i need both LCD,and plasma.....to bad. looks like i'll be sticking to the XMB8 later this year........somebody help.

[NJMetsFan]

Originally Posted by saprano

Ya see thats what i was talking, and worried about. i play games for more than 8 hours, one time i went 12 hours. i want a plasma but i dont want to worry about that stuff. i want to play as long as i want like i do now on my samsung, plasmas are great but burn in still there unfortunately. i need my own place quick! i need both LCD,and plasma.....to bad. looks like i'll be sticking to the XMB8 later this year........somebody help.

Yeah if you play for that long straight, I would highly recommend buying LCD. Eventhough LCD tvs could still burn in as well, but it takes alot more for that to happen. Like having the same screen for days, maybe a couple of weeks at a time.

The XMR8, if thats what you meant has LED backlight. Its black level is supposed to rival plasma's but I don't know how well they do with motion blur. I pretty sure you won't reget that set anyways. It's a damn good LCD.

Have you checked out the motion blur test results?

[MaleManGuy]

LCD's have a transistor for every pixel... if anything happens to that active device the pixel will show it. Not only that... every transistor must not only be not dead, but biased properly too otherwise you get patches of permament clouds or slightly different looking pixels. Anyways... plasma is just electrons exciting gas which in turn excites phosphors... not as likely to die or have biasing issues.

I started with LCD... and now have plasma. I am biased towards plasma for the true to life color accuracy, speed, and no non-sense specs. Plasma is not relying on all the motion compensation schemes and on and on to display a speedy picture. The more I watch my TV and the more I remember the sharp I previously hyad the happier I get.

Jeff

[NJMetsFan]

Originally Posted by MaleManGuy

LCD's have a transistor for every pixel... if anything happens to that active device the pixel will show it. Not only that... every transistor must not only be not dead, but biased properly too otherwise you get patches of permament clouds or slightly different looking pixels. Anyways... plasma is just electrons exciting gas which in turn excites phosphors... not as likely to die or have biasing issues.

I started with LCD... and now have plasma. I am biased towards plasma for the true to life color accuracy, speed, and no non-sense specs. Plasma is not relying on all the motion compensation schemes and on and on to display a speedy picture. The more I watch my TV and the more I remember the sharp I previously hyad the happier I get.

Jeff

I had a Sharp Aqous as well, before I bought my Panasonic. I will never regret that upgrade. I love my plasma.

[MaleManGuy]

Originally Posted by NJMetsFan

I had a Sharp Aqous as well, before I bought my Panasonic. I will never regret that upgrade. I love my plasma.

I love my plasma too... it makes movies come alive, much better viewing angle. The pluses are a lot more. I play video games, watch TV, do blu movies and rarely get retention if it barely lasts a moment at all. Burn in will never happen for me... I never had burn-in on my CRT EITHER!!! If used normally a plasma should never get burn-in these days for a new panasonic or pioneer... they have anti-retention technology invisible to the eye... usually a pixel shifting technique... it is listed in the specs.
My next TV will be a plasma I know it. LCD has lousy contrast, viewing angles, and color balance. EVen the Cathode tube doesn't produce a 100% perfect white light that it relys on to generate all colors. LCD must start with white and then subtract levels of R G B using filters. On a plasma it is easier to just add levels of R G B to get white.
Anyways... I will do pioneer next time... or maybe panasonic. We'll see what the next gen brings :-)

[NJMetsFan]

Originally Posted by MaleManGuy

I love my plasma too... it makes movies come alive, much better viewing angle. The pluses are a lot more. I play video games, watch TV, do blu movies and rarely get retention if it barely lasts a moment at all. Burn in will never happen for me... I never had burn-in on my CRT EITHER!!! If used normally a plasma should never get burn-in these days for a new panasonic or pioneer... they have anti-retention technology invisible to the eye... usually a pixel shifting technique... it is listed in the specs.
My next TV will be a plasma I know it. LCD has lousy contrast, viewing angles, and color balance. EVen the Cathode tube doesn't produce a 100% perfect white light that it relys on to generate all colors. LCD must start with white and then subtract levels of R G B using filters. On a plasma it is easier to just add levels of R G B to get white.
Anyways... I will do pioneer next time... or maybe panasonic. We'll see what the next gen brings :-)

Eventhough I love my plasma, I will be open to any of the newest technologies when I eventually replace my tv. OLED might be available(I know its available, but I mean in larger sizes), LED backlit LCD's are supposed to be pretty good, Laser TVs are coming around as well. You never know what the future brings. So, I will look at all my options and see whats available that I could afford, and give me the best picture for the money.

If I was to buy a new tv right now, it would be another plasma.

[saprano]

Originally Posted by NJMetsFan

Yeah if you play for that long straight, I would highly recommend buying LCD. Eventhough LCD tvs could still burn in as well, but it takes alot more for that to happen. Like having the same screen for days, maybe a couple of weeks at a time.

The XMR8, if thats what you meant has LED backlight. Its black level is supposed to rival plasma's but I don't know how well they do with motion blur. I pretty sure you won't reget that set anyways. It's a damn good LCD.

Have you checked out the motion blur test results?

Na i didn't check the tests yet. question.......if i get that kuro plasma and do the 100 hour break in dvd would i still have to worry about burn in? especially the time spend playing games.

[NJMetsFan]

Originally Posted by saprano

Na i didn't check the tests yet. question.......if i get that kuro plasma and do the 100 hour break in dvd would i still have to worry about burn in? especially the time spend playing games.

You don't have to do the 100 hr break in by dvd. To break in the set, all you have to do is set the backlight and brightness down and watch tv like you normally would. So, if the TV is on for 5 hrs a day it would take you 20 days. I did it for like 150-200 hrs, before I calibrated my set.

I would be concerned, for the amount of time you said you play your games straight. I couldn't tell you, you don't have to worry about burn in. I would be worried a little bit.

Alot of the new plasmas have pixel shifting, which is there to reduce the chance of burn in. If companies didn't think plasmas couldn't burn in, they would have never included that feature in their sets.

I would recommend that you call and talk to Pioneer and ask for their professional opinion. Be truthful and let them know how much time you spend playing games, and that you are worried about burn in. And if the set does burn in, ask if its coved under warranty.

[saprano]

Originally Posted by NJMetsFan

You don't have to do the 100 hr break in by dvd. To break in the set, all you have to do is set the backlight and brightness down and watch tv like you normally would. So, if the TV is on for 5 hrs a day it would take you 20 days. I did it for like 150-200 hrs, before I calibrated my set.

I would be concerned, for the amount of time you said you play your games straight. I couldn't tell you, you don't have to worry about burn in. I would be worried a little bit.

Alot of the new plasmas have pixel shifting, which is there to reduce the chance of burn in. If companies didn't think plasmas couldn't burn in, they would have never included that feature in their sets.

I would recommend that you call and talk to Pioneer and ask for their professional opinion. Be truthful and let them know how much time you spend playing games, and that you are worried about burn in. And if the set does burn in, ask if its coved under warranty.

Ok thanks....yea i was thinking about the tv's warranty, if i do get bad burn in all i have to do is replace it

but there really is no getting around the time i spend playing games, especially all thats coming this year.

[NJMetsFan]

Originally Posted by saprano

Ok thanks....yea i was thinking about the tv's warranty, if i do get bad burn in all i have to do is replace it

but there really is no getting around the time i spend playing games, especially all thats coming this year.

If its cover by the warranty, then yeah, you would just replace it.

[sarge1976]

You don't really need a break in dvd,I downloaded a SD card program (thats if your tv has an SD slot) I throw the SD card in for about 12hrs a day and I'm pretty much done with the 100hrs but now I see people writing they do it for 150-200hrs,it makes me think is it safe after 100hr or 200hrs? which one? ya know!

[brett_day]

Originally Posted by sarge1976

You don't really need a break in dvd,I downloaded a SD card program (thats if your tv has an SD slot) I throw the SD card in for about 12hrs a day and I'm pretty much done with the 100hrs but now I see people writing they do it for 150-200hrs,it makes me think is it safe after 100hr or 200hrs? which one? ya know!

100 is what is recommended, after 100 hours you are safe to start settinbg the tv how you want it. I done my break in for 150 hours because i wanted to be sure it was broken in properly! so far so good for me! i have about 600 hours on my set now and have not even had the slightest hint of IR

[sarge1976]

Thanks brett ,I think I'm gonna play it safe and run the SD card for 150hrs,I want to be worry free from burn in and IR

[STARSCREAM]

Coming from always having LCD's, gotta say PLASMA! I just got my first one Thursday and the wife and I are jar droppingly floored by the image we are getting now! HD football's colors and 3D pop is unbelievable. I didn't know what I was missing until now. I only wish they would make a Plasma projector! Is that even possible???