Unforgiven (1992) (Remastered)

[GasmaskAvenger]

Why are some people trying to make 4K fail?

It's goddamn DVD that's the real enemy, you fools.

[Aragorn the Elfstone]

Originally Posted by GasmaskAvenger

Why are some people trying to make 4K fail?

It's goddamn DVD that's the real enemy, you fools.

Here I thought streaming was supposed to be the enemy.

None of are "trying to make 4K fail". Speaking for myself, I just don't care about it.

Also, there's lots of stuff on DVD that I can only watch on that format. Why would it be the enemy? It's still a physical format, at least.

[asmodeux21]

Originally Posted by GasmaskAvenger

Why are some people trying to make 4K fail?

It's goddamn DVD that's the real enemy, you fools.

It is amazing that dvds still exist, but I know a lot of people who buy dvds and have not upgraded to blu ray.

[Trekkie313]

DVD for new releases will hopefully be dead by the end of the decade. 25 years is good run.

[HeavyHitter]

Bottom line is 2D, 3D, and UHD BD help keep physical media going and that's all what matters.

[StingingVelvet]

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

Bottom line is 2D, 3D, and UHD BD help keep physical media going and that's all what matters.

Yeah. I wouldn't call DVD the enemy, but it was never good for blu-ray that DVD got to stick around this whole time supported by cheapskates who couldn't pony up $50 for a BD player. I used to talk to them all the time on my Star Trek and Doctor Who forums, and they would scream at me that $50 was a huge amount of money to them and that BDs didn't look any better so they didn't care. Same as some above are doing about UHD.

In the end most consumers don't care about quality after it meets a certain acceptable standard. From then on they only care about price and convenience. I get that, I get the reality of it. That's why I said I hope there's more releases like this that force people to support UHD, because I want it to succeed despite that.

[Aragorn the Elfstone]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

I wouldn't call DVD the enemy, but it was never good for blu-ray that DVD got to stick around this whole time supported by cheapskates who couldn't pony up $50 for a BD player.

Aren't you one classy fellow.

[Talal86]

I've already upgraded my set to 4k, but I still think that the uhd releases are half baked so far, specially catalog releases. I bet in a couple of years we'll have to buy all of these movies yet again, when the studios *finally* get it right

if anything, a 4k tv and player made me love 1080p blu rays even more

[infiniteCR]

Originally Posted by Talal86

I've already upgraded my set to 4k, but I still think that the uhd releases are half baked so far, specially catalog releases. I bet in a couple of years we'll have to buy all of these movies yet again, when the studios *finally* get it right

if anything, a 4k tv and player made me love 1080p blu rays even more

Same experience here. I upgraded all my equipment. UHD didn't do enough of anything for me and I was questioning which version I preferred at times, which is a debate I shouldn't have to have with myself. I think one day in the future dolby vision could make UHD worthwhile.

[jh901]

Originally Posted by Aragorn the Elfstone

Aren't you one classy fellow.

Uninformed consumers are a problem for enthusiasts. It is in all our rational self interest to bring concerns to light.

[Member-222782]

So to get the new remastered regular Blu-ray version I have to buy this 4K set? Fine by me since I plan on upgrading eventually (already purchased a 4K player) but I still think it's a grimy move on WB's part to only make the regular BD available this way.

[Patsfan123]

2016 LG Oleds are DV capable

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by Patsfan123

2016 LG Oleds are DV capable

That's awesome.

[Vidya]

I've never considered this movie to be explicitly pro-gun. I always viewed it as an affirmation of America's glorious frontier heritage on minding your own business.

[The Great Owl]

Originally Posted by Vidya

I've never considered this movie to be explicitly pro-gun. I always viewed it as an affirmation of America's glorious frontier heritage on minding your own business.

I've never thought of Unforgiven as being political in simple terms (pro-gun, anti-gun, etc.). This film is so much more multi-layered than that.

Like many other Clint Eastwood films, this one deconstructs the mythology of the masculine male hero/gunfighter/etc.

Unforgiven takes place during the final era of the Wild West, when the legendary frontier has become fully self-aware. Pulp paperbacks, such as The Duke of Death, are embellishing and romanticizing the myth of the cowboy gunfighter. Young wannabe gunfighters are giving themselves actual brand names ("The Scofield Kid"). Meanwhile, the real legends have fallen off of the face of the Earth and people are already starting to question the actual deeds of these legends. Lawmen, wary of the romanticism of these legends, try to enforce order in abrasive ways. Enter Eastwood's William Munny, who reluctantly reemerges onto the scene with violent results.

It's a fascinating film, because it has more in common with classic westerns (The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, etc.) than it does with most "Eastwood westerns." It also manages to be a quintessential Eastwood western through and through, though.

[gobad2003]

What happens when they decide to go 8k then your worthless 4k will be obsolete and you will have to upgrade once again. Nope I'm not falling for it again, The buck stops at blu-ray for me

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by gobad2003

What happens when they decide to go 8k then your worthless 4k will be obsolete and you will have to upgrade once again. Nope I'm not falling for it again, The buck stops at blu-ray for me

2 factors on why 8K is pointless:

1) There are only three or four hundred films that were shot in 65mm that could take advantage of this.

2) The aforementioned 65mm films would have to have received 8K DIs or at least 4K. Most of them haven't even been given recent 2K scans.

[Aragorn the Elfstone]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

2 factors on why 8K is pointless:

1) There are only three or four hundred films that were shot in 65mm that could take advantage of this.

2) The aforementioned 65mm films would have to have received 8K DIs or at least 4K. Most of them haven't even been given recent 2K scans.

Yes, but they'll come with Super-duper Dynamic Range.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by Aragorn the Elfstone

Yes, but they'll come with Super-duper Dynamic Range.

I won't buy it. 99% of films are shot in 35mm so 4K is where I draw the line.

[Talal86]

I just rewatched the previous blu ray, the PQ is very good, but there's room for improvement, I want to see a comparison between the old and remastered blu rays

Originally Posted by Grethiwha

I tend to agree... Even though I'm not sure at this point if I'll ever adopt 4K UHD... I figure if its a rare movie that I love enough to double-dip, or triple-dip in this case, I may as well save myself from potentially quadruple-dipping, and opt for the combo pack. I think I'll wait for the price to go down first though.

I'm sure they'll remaster the 4k down the line