Blu-ray Player with Netflix - Blu-ray Forum

MountainBlu · 09-12-2009, 07:16 PM

Long story short- I have a Samsung 1590 model with great features but it has freeze/lipsync problems. I plan to return it to Walmart and get another player with Netflix capabilities.

It looks like LG is the only other company with Netflix. Am I just borrowing more trouble with LG? Are their players any good? Their reviews seem more favorable than Samsungs.

Or...would I be better off just buying another Sony (I love my Sony 350 bedroom player- never has a problem) and just get another Roku box for my Netflix fix?

witheygull · 09-12-2009, 08:15 PM

Another option to consider is getting a PS3 and then getting the PlayOn software to add the Netflix capability.

bt12483 · 09-12-2009, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MountainBlu

Long story short- I have a Samsung 1590 model with great features but it has freeze/lipsync problems. I plan to return it to Walmart and get another player with Netflix capabilities.

It looks like LG is the only other company with Netflix. Am I just borrowing more trouble with LG? Are their players any good? Their reviews seem more favorable than Samsungs.

Or...would I be better off just buying another Sony (I love my Sony 350 bedroom player- never has a problem) and just get another Roku box for my Netflix fix?

Sony is coming out with a new player that will do Netflix (and a slew of other free media, like YouTube, Slacker radio, etc.), the BDP-N460.

You should wait for it to hit and add it to your list of potential players. It will have an MSRP of $249.99, and is supposed to hit around 10/7/09.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/09/s...ernet-content/

I have high hopes for this player, and plan to pick one up myself if things turn out right.

solarrdadd · 09-12-2009, 09:02 PM

i have a question for folks with blu players that have netflix streaming built in, when you stream a netflix blu-ray movie that is listed with HD-Audio, do you get HD-Audio or only the core codec in eithe r5 or 7.1? with xbox you only get stereo, not even the core yet. so for me it sucks so far. if they gave me at least the core codecs i might be happier but stereo?

Uniquely · 09-12-2009, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by solarrdadd

i have a question for folks with blu players that have netflix streaming built in, when you stream a netflix blu-ray movie that is listed with HD-Audio, do you get HD-Audio or only the core codec in eithe r5 or 7.1? with xbox you only get stereo, not even the core yet. so for me it sucks so far. if they gave me at least the core codecs i might be happier but stereo?

Netflix streaming does not support HD audio or 5.1 through any device at this point.

DFWHD · 09-12-2009, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by robinandtami

Netflix streaming does not support HD audio or 5.1 through any device at this point.

I've got to ask the question... If Netflix streaming does not have HD audio, what is the big appeal? I've invested a lot of money in a both the TV and sound system and if I'm not going to enjoy both the picture and the audio quality, why even use the streaming functionality?

Uniquely · 09-12-2009, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DFWHD

I've got to ask the question... If Netflix streaming does not have HD audio, what is the big appeal? I've invested a lot of money in a both the TV and sound system and if I'm not going to enjoy both the picture and the audio quality, why even use the streaming functionality?

For me, I love to watch the independent films that I would probably never watch otherwise. Anyone who is a fan of independent films knows that it is possible to enjoy great movies that have far less than stellar audio and picture quality. Speed Racer is great and all.... and I love to watch movies with reference video and audio as much as the next person... but I also like to watch movies that aren't necessarily made to appeal to the masses (or least common denominator if you will) too.... and very often those types of films just don't have the budget for HD audio and video. Does that mean they aren't worth watching? ABSOLUTELY NOT!

solarrdadd · 09-12-2009, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by robinandtami

Netflix streaming does not support HD audio or 5.1 through any device at this point.

wow, i didn't know that, if that's true, then why do i see some folks saying that the deal breaker for them not getting a unit is it doesn't stream netflix? do they not realize that it's not even core 5.1 only stereo? that sucks cause i can stream 5.1 video off the web to my pc, WTF netflix?

DFWHD · 09-12-2009, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by robinandtami

For me, I love to watch the independent films that I would probably never watch otherwise. Anyone who is a fan of independent films knows that it is possible to enjoy great movies that have far less than stellar audio and picture quality. Speed Racer is great and all.... and I love to watch movies with reference video and audio as much as the next person... but I also like to watch movies that aren't necessarily made to appeal to the masses (or least common denominator if you will) too.... and very often those types of films just don't have the budget for HD audio and video. Does that mean they aren't worth watching? ABSOLUTELY NOT!

I hear ya - Didn't mean to disrespect anyone's watching habits or styles... Maybe I've been brainwashed by all the HD soundtrack hype over the past couple of years.

MountainBlu · 09-13-2009, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by bt12483

Sony is coming out with a new player that will do Netflix (and a slew of other free media, like YouTube, Slacker radio, etc.), the BDP-N460.

You should wait for it to hit and add it to your list of potential players. It will have an MSRP of $249.99, and is supposed to hit around 10/7/09.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/09/s...ernet-content/

I have high hopes for this player, and plan to pick one up myself if things turn out right.

Thanks. I did not know about this Sony unit and the price is right, especially with all of the extra features.

MountainBlu · 09-13-2009, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by witheygull

Another option to consider is getting a PS3 and then getting the PlayOn software to add the Netflix capability.

I didn't know about this option either. Cool. I love this forum!

NiceAndBlue · 09-14-2009, 02:09 AM

I own the LG BD370 and really like it. I too bought the samsung 1590 and returned it because of the lipsync issues as well as all the negative reviews that it was getting. I've been really happy with the 370 so far. Really fast load times and the netflix streaming works great. I've been a long time netflix subscriber and finally having the ability to stream on my tv is great. I really don't see the big deal of only having stereo sound, its steaming after all. One factor to consider is that a lot of times its actually the studio's decision to set the quality of the stream (which is why there are a few pan and scan versions of movies up with low bitrates). The studio's still want to give you a reason to buy the dvd/blu. Right now Amazon has the 370 for $186 which is a great deal.

lobo81865 · 09-14-2009, 02:14 AM

I just use my Oppo Bd 83, and a Roku box.

MountainBlu · 09-14-2009, 03:57 AM

I took the 1590 back to Wal-mart today for a full refund. I'm going to look into the all of these good options.

Mr. Joshua · 09-14-2009, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by robinandtami

Netflix streaming does not support HD audio or 5.1 through any device at this point.

And their HD stuff is not true HD. Only place I know of true 1080p HD outside of blu-ray or the dead HD DVD is Vudu any of the other streaming or downloads like Netflix, Apple TV and others is not true 1080p HD...

Uniquely · 09-14-2009, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by wsciv123

And their HD stuff is not true HD. Only place I know of true 1080p HD outside of blu-ray or the dead HD DVD is Vudu any of the other streaming or downloads like Netflix, Apple TV and others is not true 1080p HD...

720P is an HD resolution as well, but it is highly compressed when streaming. Again... it's not always about the video and audio quality.

MountainBlu · 09-15-2009, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by robinandtami

720P is an HD resolution as well, but it is highly compressed when streaming. Again... it's not always about the video and audio quality.

Agree. My wife and I love watching these hard to find foreign films. Yeah, I love 1080P as well as the next person but for these movies I can live with lower video quality.

ewsjr · 09-16-2009, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by MountainBlu

Agree. My wife and I love watching these hard to find foreign films. Yeah, I love 1080P as well as the next person but for these movies I can live with lower video quality.

I'm on the edge joining Netflix one movie a month rent for the exact same reason you state. I have a list of dozens of hard to find, foreign and cult flicks that Netflix seems to have and it will be nice to have this option available if you just want to "watch" a movie some night. just dragging my feet because of knowing that I will be having 8.99 charged to my credit card every month (if that's how it works) and the problems that could cause if I decide to cancel.

HD 335 · 09-16-2009, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by solarrdadd

wow, i didn't know that, if that's true, then why do i see some folks saying that the deal breaker for them not getting a unit is it doesn't stream netflix? do they not realize that it's not even core 5.1 only stereo? that sucks cause i can stream 5.1 video off the web to my pc, WTF netflix?

The receiver can matrix the sound but it's not true 5.1 of course. It not as big of a concern for my family when streaming to get 5.1, mostly we use it to quickly check if a movie is worth renting, watching TV shows and checking out documentaries. We know what we are getting with Netlix streaming, and our expectations are much lower for both audio and video. We only expect the best when watching Blu-rays

Samsung does get a lot of bad reviews, but I've been very happy with both my 2500 and 3600. The LG 370 model is down to $185 on Amazon and that seems like a great deal for people who have Netflix to get a player at a good price.

deangrazy · 09-19-2009, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by witheygull

Another option to consider is getting a PS3 and then getting the PlayOn software to add the Netflix capability.

I think that's the best way to go, That way you get two in one, I loved your idea, never thought of this.

09-12-2009, 07:16 PM	#1
MountainBlu Active Member Member since:Jun 2008 Blu-ray reviews:3	Blu-ray Player with Netflix Long story short- I have a Samsung 1590 model with great features but it has freeze/lipsync problems. I plan to return it to Walmart and get another player with Netflix capabilities. It looks like LG is the only other company with Netflix. Am I just borrowing more trouble with LG? Are their players any good? Their reviews seem more favorable than Samsungs. Or...would I be better off just buying another Sony (I love my Sony 350 bedroom player- never has a problem) and just get another Roku box for my Netflix fix?

09-14-2009, 02:14 AM	#13
lobo81865 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Aug 2008 Home Theater Gallery:1 4K collection:562 Blu-ray collection:3659 DVD collection:3327 MA collection:1323 Digital collection:3018 iTunes collection:1551 Prime collection:950 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:102	I just use my Oppo Bd 83, and a Roku box. Last edited by lobo81865; 09-14-2009 at 02:44 AM.

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witheygull Special Member Top contributor Member since:Feb 2008 Location:northwest GA, U.S.A. 4K collection:445 Blu-ray collection:2231 DVD collection:965 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:1	Another option to consider is getting a PS3 and then getting the PlayOn software to add the Netflix capability.

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solarrdadd Blu-ray Prince Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jul 2008 Location:Virginia Home Theater Gallery:255 4K collection:209 Blu-ray collection:1344 DVD collection:4 Blu-ray reviews: 42 Trading Score:316	i have a question for folks with blu players that have netflix streaming built in, when you stream a netflix blu-ray movie that is listed with HD-Audio, do you get HD-Audio or only the core codec in eithe r5 or 7.1? with xbox you only get stereo, not even the core yet. so for me it sucks so far. if they gave me at least the core codecs i might be happier but stereo?

09-14-2009, 02:09 AM	#12
NiceAndBlue Junior Member Member since:Sep 2009 Blu-ray collection:7 DVD collection:5	I own the LG BD370 and really like it. I too bought the samsung 1590 and returned it because of the lipsync issues as well as all the negative reviews that it was getting. I've been really happy with the 370 so far. Really fast load times and the netflix streaming works great. I've been a long time netflix subscriber and finally having the ability to stream on my tv is great. I really don't see the big deal of only having stereo sound, its steaming after all. One factor to consider is that a lot of times its actually the studio's decision to set the quality of the stream (which is why there are a few pan and scan versions of movies up with low bitrates). The studio's still want to give you a reason to buy the dvd/blu. Right now Amazon has the 370 for $186 which is a great deal.

09-14-2009, 03:57 AM	#14
MountainBlu Active Member Member since:Jun 2008 Blu-ray reviews:3	I took the 1590 back to Wal-mart today for a full refund. I'm going to look into the all of these good options.

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