PS3 3D Update Question

[Nick4Blu_81]

Will the PS3 use an HDMI 1.4 cable when the Blu-ray 3D firmware upgrade is available? This is something I have been curious about. Any Info would be greatly appreciated.

[MattW]

Originally Posted by Nick4u_81

Will the PS3 use an HDMI 1.4 cable when the Blu-ray 3D firmware upgrade is available? This is something I have been curious about. Any Info would be greatly appreciated.

No it will use the existing HDMI cable. It's still supposed to work with the new 3D tech with just an update. Don't ask me how. I have to see this before I believe it.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10450842-1.html

[bigpapy]

Hi guys I have totally diferent question why my ps3 green ligth has been on at all time even if the sistem is off?

thanks

[Propellarhead9]

Originally Posted by MattW

No it will use the existing HDMI cable. It's still supposed to work with the new 3D tech with just an update. Don't ask me how. I have to see this before I believe it.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10450842-1.html

I'm kind of hoping we get some more information on that sometime soon.

[Petra_Kalbrain]

Originally Posted by bigpapy

Hi guys I have totally diferent question why my ps3 green ligth has been on at all time even if the sistem is off?

thanks

Either a wire is crossed inside or the PS3 isn't off when you think it is.

[IStoleYourUsername]

Why? You'll still have to shell out $3000 for a 3D TV.

[Shin-Ra]

HDMI 1.3 spec has the necessary bandwidth so it follows that the same grade of cable is capable too.

The software upgrade has more to do with how the frames are organised and packed for compatible HDMI transmission to any make of TV also supporting the S3D part of the HDMI 1.4 spec.

[financially stable]

Originally Posted by IStoleYourUsername

Why? You'll still have to shell out $3000 for a 3D TV.

3,000? thats pocket-change! Don't let my username fool ya!

[that1guystudios]

Full 1080p to each eye can pass through any 10.2 gbps HDMI cord.
However, if you have an audio receiver, it will cause handshake issues ife 3-D Mode is engaged.

What this means for most people is that in the case of the PS3 you will have to hook the HDMI up directly to the 3-D television to get the 3-D signal to work, or buy a new receiver that handles 3-D video content, extracts the audio and passes it through.

In short, if you have a surround sound system, you will have to use Optical digital for audio, since the HDMI will need to connect directly to the TV or get a new receiver that supports 3-D video passthrough.

All that HDMi 1.4 adds is an audio return channel, and some internet capabilities that won't come into play for quite some time. It's not terribly exciting.

[Suntory_Times]

Originally Posted by financially deprived

3,000? thats pocket-change! Don't let my username fool ya!

Why, I found just twice trhat amount in mhy coach a few days ago.


But in all honesty I can't wait for 3d projectors to hit.

[CYMBOL]

Originally Posted by that1guypictures

In short, if you have a surround sound system, you will have to use Optical digital for audio, since the HDMI will need to connect directly to the TV or get a new receiver that supports 3-D video passthrough.

Is "3D" passthrough different than regular passthrough?

[slaizer2000]

Originally Posted by that1guypictures

Full 1080p to each eye can pass through any 10.2 gbps HDMI cord.
However, if you have an audio receiver, it will cause handshake issues ife 3-D Mode is engaged.

What this means for most people is that in the case of the PS3 you will have to hook the HDMI up directly to the 3-D television to get the 3-D signal to work, or buy a new receiver that handles 3-D video content, extracts the audio and passes it through.

In short, if you have a surround sound system, you will have to use Optical digital for audio, since the HDMI will need to connect directly to the TV or get a new receiver that supports 3-D video passthrough.

All that HDMi 1.4 adds is an audio return channel, and some internet capabilities that won't come into play for quite some time. It's not terribly exciting.

Let's hope Sony can do the update and also find a way nto to cause a handshake issue. who wants to go out an buy a new receiver

[RocShemp]

HDMI 1.3 has more than enough throughput to support FHD3D. Software driven BD players such as the PS3 can be updated via firmware to pas the FHD3D signal.

What cannot be added via firmware update is the new Ethernet Channel nor the new Audio Return Channel as those require a new HDMI chip (and new 1.4 certified cables).

I don't know enough about the 4K Support, Content Type feature, or Additional Color Spaces to say if those require a hardware upgrade or if all they need is a firmware update.

Finding the Right Cable http://www.hdmi.org/manufacturer/hdm...ght_cable.aspx

Here's a good source of information: http://www.hdmi.org/manufacturer/hdmi_1_4/index.aspx

Originally Posted by slaizer2000

Let's hope Sony can do the update and also find a way nto to cause a handshake issue. who wants to go out an buy a new receiver

Current HDMI 1.3 receivers aren't programmed to recognise the FHD3D signal flag and thus will refuse to passthrough the FHD3D video signal.

Since the problematic issue is a signal flag, I firmly believe this issue could be resolved by a mere firmware update to the receiver. But why would anyone want to provide such an update when they can sell you a new 3D-ready receiver instead?

[Kyo28]

Originally Posted by RocShemp

Current HDMI 1.3 receivers aren't programmed to recognise the FHD3D signal flag and thus will refuse to passthrough the FHD3D video signal.

Since the problematic issue is a signal flag, I firmly believe this issue could be resolved by a mere firmware update to the receiver. But why would anyone want to provide such an update when they can sell you a new 3D-ready receiver instead?

You know, if this is the case that would be the perfect solution for me:
- Update my PS3's firmware to push out 3D video
- Update my Onkyo's firmware so it can pass-through that 3D video
- keep my HDMI 1.3a cables

All I would need to do then is invest in a 3D TV and that's an investment I'm willing to make. A new TV+player+receiver was a bridge too far for me.

[RocShemp]

Originally Posted by Kyo28

You know, if this is the case that would be the perfect solution for me:
- Update my PS3's firmware to push out 3D video
- Update my Onkyo's firmware so it can pass-through that 3D video
- keep my HDMI 1.3a cables

All I would need to do then is invest in a 3D TV and that's an investment I'm willing to make. A new TV+player+receiver was a bridge too far for me.

It would be ideal for me as well (I have a 705) but I just don't see Onkyo (or any receiver manufacturer) creating and releasing such an update when there's money to be made by selling brand new receivers instead.

[androvsky]

Aren't at least some of the 3D TV makers making a pass-through, so you can hook up the PS3 directly to the TV and send the HDMI audio to a receiver? I thought I read Samsung was doing this, not sure about the others. Seems like it'd be a good solution...

[CYMBOL]

Originally Posted by androvsky

Aren't at least some of the 3D TV makers making a pass-through, so you can hook up the PS3 directly to the TV and send the HDMI audio to a receiver? I thought I read Samsung was doing this, not sure about the others. Seems like it'd be a good solution...

What a mess.

I used to enjoy talking to people just new into the home theater market, but now it's such a hassle. All the different audio codecs, and how to hook things up depending on what your receiver can handle. . . now add in 3D and what you need/don't need etc., etc. . . .

[jeff_rigby]

Originally Posted by CYMBOL

Is "3D" passthrough different than regular passthrough?

Yes, due to High Definition Copy Protection HDCP concerns, all devices in the chain have to report that they do not allow copying of the signal. HDMI 1.4 has a new protocol for handshaking that includes new features that will not be recognized so the device will by default stop allowing video to pass through the device. Since this is a security issue many devices do not allow software updating of the firmware. Economics plays a part here too as software updatable is more expensive.

SHIN-RA Quote "HDMI 1.3 spec has the necessary bandwidth so it follows that the same grade of cable is capable too.

The software upgrade has more to do with how the frames are organised and packed for compatible HDMI transmission to any make of TV also supporting the S3D part of the HDMI 1.4 spec."

Got it in one. Exactly, the framepacking and handshaking that allow 3-D to be display agnostic are the REQUREMENTS/features in HDMI 1.4

[Kyo28]

Hmmm, so if I understand correctly:
- my BD player (PS3) is upgradable through firmware
- my receiver (Onkyo TX-SR607) isn't
- my TV (Panasonic Viera 37") isn't

That means I'll need to invest in two out of three components to get 3D. Sorry but I'm afraid that's a bridge too far for us so 3D'll have to wait in our household

[RocShemp]

Originally Posted by Kyo28

Hmmm, so if I understand correctly:
- my BD player (PS3) is upgradable through firmware
- my receiver (Onkyo TX-SR607) isn't
- my TV (Panasonic Viera 37") isn't

That means I'll need to invest in two out of three components to get 3D. Sorry but I'm afraid that's a bridge too far for us so 3D'll have to wait in our household

Exactly.

I'll soon be in the market for a TV to replace my Sharp LC-52D62U but I really have no desire to replace my Onkyo TX-SR705.