Planet of the Apes (Tim Burton version) (Spoiler warning: discusses the ending)

[photorebel]

I've seen this movie several times,and tonight on Blu Ray for the first time. I'm still confused as to the ending.

I understand pretty much everything except the ending?

Did Gen Thade travel back in time to earth, set up the Ape society?

Any theories?

[sokrman14]

He had to travel back through the magnetic storm, but the magnetic storm sent him to another alternate universe. Pretty trippy huh?

[Ex Accountant]

Yes, I think he went through the cloud back in time to Earth and changed our history.

[photorebel]

The ending pretty much spoiled the movie for me. I don't mind an ending that you have to think about, but eventually...you "get it". With this one, there isn't just a clear answer to me. An alternate universe? Maybe..but the statue of Gen Thade...confuses that for me.

[Jokerboy649]

The reason that's the ending and why it's so confusing is because Tim Burton said it's supposed to be a cliffhanger not a twist. He had sequels in mind to answer those questions but since not alot of people liked the movie the sequels never happened.

[photorebel]

Now I can understand that explanation. (Burton had sequels in mind, so it was a cliffhanger).
I think a trilogy would have been good. Doesn't look like that's going to happen now.

[BStecke]

Originally Posted by photorebel

I've seen this movie several times . . .

You, sir, deserve a round of applause. I barely made it through the first sitting.

[sowecrazy]

i did like the charleton heston cameo as Zaius, Thade's Father , its ironc that he played one of the apes

[jadedeath]

Originally Posted by sowecrazy

i did like the charleton heston cameo as Zaius, Thade's Father , its ironc that he played one of the apes

Damn dirty humans...

Logan

[Quad]

Didn't like it either. I've enjoyed Mark Wahlberg in other roles but I thought he was miscast in this one. Burton should have tried to go back and remake it as it was originally written which would have been more interesting.

The producers of the original film intended to but they didn't have the budget for it. It turned out great anyway and those sets were amazing and original.

[Damage Inc.]

Originally Posted by Quad

Burton should have tried to go back and remake it as it was originally written which would have been more interesting.

Yeah, maybe now he should remake his "remake" as an actual remake. Get it? lol

Hm, can't wait to see what "Alice" will turn out like next year though.
Should be pretty great with his twisted style and everything.
Not to forget Elfman's music. <3

[Groo The Perverted]

Originally Posted by sowecrazy

i did like the charleton heston cameo as Zaius, Thade's Father , its ironc that he played one of the apes

The ironic aspect is how his character was anti guns. lol

[photorebel]

Originally Posted by BStecke

You, sir, deserve a round of applause. I barely made it through the first sitting.

I've seen all five original (when I was a kid, I loved them!) and read the book. Planet of the Apes by Pierre Boulle (the English Translation of course). Burtons movie makes more sense after having read the book.
I watched it tonight as the football game on TV was blowout. (Georgia vs Hawaii)

[WickyWoo]

I've seen this movie several times,and tonight on Blu Ray for the first time. I'm still confused as to the ending.

I understand pretty much everything except the ending?

Did Gen Thade travel back in time to earth, set up the Ape society?

Any theories?

The movie is the ending of the book, except it's Washington DC instead of Paris

The original DVD contained a booklet that explained everything. First monkey went into the time vortex BEFORE Mark Wahlberg, but came out AFTER. So Thade managed to travel back hundreds or thousands of years before Mark Wahlberg arrived, and used his advanced DNA to breed a race of super apes on earth and take over

So Mark returned to a different point in time

In the book, they travel to an earthlike planet found orbiting Betelgeuse, relativity being as it is, hundreds of years pass in-between. Escape from the planet of the apes reversed to human in an ape society and the Heston movie combined are basically what the book is.

Burton's movie bears no resemblence to the book except for that ending whatsoever
Long story short, hero returns with Nova and their son on his spaceship, lands in a Paris ruled by apes because we helped them advance toa point they could take over.

[AaronSCH]

I consider Tim Burton to be a brilliant filmmaker. However, his version of "Planet of the Apes" was a major disappointment (understatement). I was hoping that he would use the 1968 version as the basis for a much more brutal depiction of the ape society than the filmmakers were able to portray in the original version.

On a side note, this year will be the 40th Anniversary of the original "Planet of the Apes" I predict a Bllu-ray version will make its debut before the end of the year.

[photorebel]

Originally Posted by AaronSCH

I consider Tim Burton to be a brilliant filmmaker. However, his version of "Planet of the Apes" was a major disappointment (understatement). I was hoping that he would use the 1968 version as the basis for a much more brutal depiction of the ape society than the filmmakers were able to portray in the original version.

On a side note, this year will be the 40th Anniversary of the original "Planet of the Apes" I predict a Bllu-ray version will make its debut before the end of the year.

Too bad Burton didn't follow the orginal book, we could have had an entirely refreshed series.

I'd get a Blu ray version of the original POTA, but not sure about any of the sequels.

[photorebel]

I don't see why there couldn't be another POTA movie made.

Case in point; Batman Begins, and the forthcoming Dark Knight.

Most thought the Batman franchise was dead after the George Cloony (Batman & Robin) film. And it was dead for all pratical purposes.

The Incredible Hulk movie flopped, and another version is coming out this year I think. With Edward Norton as Bruce Banner/The Hulk.

So ...maybe there's hope for another Planet of the Apes, but I don't expect one anytime soon.

just my 02 cents worth.

[Living Near Shamu]

Originally Posted by WickyWoo

In the book, they travel to an earthlike planet found orbiting Betelgeuse...

Do they find Michael Keaton there?

[Mr. Joshua]

Originally Posted by Living Near Shamu

Do they find Michael Keaton there?

That's what I was thinking... LOL...

[EricJ]

Originally Posted by photorebel

I've seen this movie several times,and tonight on Blu Ray for the first time. I'm still confused as to the ending.

Did Gen Thade travel back in time to earth, set up the Ape society?

Any theories?

As I understand it, moviegoers came up with every imaginable theory to cover it, and still couldn't agree--
Until press articles interviewed the writers, who said, in effect, "Heck, we just threw that in at the last minute! Had to top the Heston statue somehow! "

(Moral, even to diehard Burton-Boiz:
Sometimes, it's just not worth the effort. )

Originally Posted by photorebel

The Incredible Hulk movie flopped, and another version is coming out this year I think. With Edward Norton as Bruce Banner/The Hulk.

(Well, it helps that the producer publicly went on record as hating the version we got, and wanted to apologize to the franchise for the earlier mess...)

So ...maybe there's hope for another Planet of the Apes, but I don't expect one anytime soon.

I remember the Massacre of 2001.

Old fears and traumas from the survivors bubbled beneath the surface for a year, and didn't explode until the summer of '02, when action-blockbuster studio execs wailed and tore their hair in the face of the Great Orange Fish...
But back in '01, blockbuster studio execs thought the very end of days was upon them, when POTA, Tomb Raider 1, Pearl Harbor, Atlantis, Swordfish, Jurassic Park III, A.I., and Final Fantasy all died within weeks of arrival at the box office.
Business analyses about the "death of Hollywood" began erupting right and left in the middle of this catastrophe, and that this was marking some calamitous permanent sea-change in the entire industry--That the "surefire" blockbuster that had been hyped for two solid years could disappear in a matter of weeks was to them some ravaging sudden disease outbreak that science couldn't cure.
Later on, Lara Croft became the symbolic "martyr" for the Lost Summer that no one could explain, but during those three months, one name became a fear, and studios shuddered as to why the Apes had died in vain with "no known cause".
(And never mind the fact that we were all going back to see the first "Shrek" for lack of anything else to see that summer, and what that ended up doing to Dreamworks' ego...)

Don't talk to studio execs about making POTA happen again.
The very name is a very private, far-reaching symbolic pain for them.