Where are the huge back-catalog blockbusters? - Blu-ray Forum

HD MickeyVee · 06-25-2008, 03:00 PM

I've noticed that none of the big announcements for blu-ray have included some of the highest grossing blockbuster titles of all time that everyone is clamoring for. Titles like the Jurassic Park series, the Indiana Jones Collection, The Matrix Collection, The Lord of the Rings Trilogy, King Kong, The Star Wars series, The original Alien series, E.T. & many more. Does anyone have a clue why these huge movies are taking so long to be announced for blu-ray? These are guaranteed hits and all we seem to get are announcments for movies that most people consider a good rent at best.

ryoohki · 06-25-2008, 03:04 PM

Anything that has George Lucas written over.. Forget it for the next 5-7 years (he did the same thing with DVD)

I mean we ***** about transfert of catalog title, yet we want everything out now. A Lot of transfert have been butchered for DVD release and now they are stuck ReDoing it .. witch takes time..

tiger roach · 06-25-2008, 03:06 PM

Beating a dead horse... bringing up/asking something that has been discussed a thousand times before

indeed...

HD MickeyVee · 06-25-2008, 03:10 PM

You say it takes time but how much time? How can a blu-ray reference title like Patton come out so quickly when the movie itself is from 1970, and yet, movies that are less than ten years old can't be transferred the same way in the same amount of time? It makes no sense.

ryoohki · 06-25-2008, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by HD MickeyVee

You say it takes time but how much time? How can a blu-ray reference title like Patton come out so quickly when the movie itself is from 1970, and yet, movies that are less than ten years old can't be transferred the same way in the same amount of time? It makes no sense.

LOL Patton Reference??? it's the worst DNR Patch job ever. It barely look better than the DVD Upscaled. Look at the screenshot over AVS FORUm, Bluray Software Section. The DVD has EE, but the Blu-ray don't apart from that it look very close

Sonny · 06-25-2008, 03:15 PM

Rotflmao!!!!!!!!!!!:d

cajmoyper · 06-25-2008, 03:16 PM

That just goes to show you that it's not just about the transfer. I think I remember G Lucas saying that he wanted to wait until the market was way more saturated with BD for his SW movies. I read somewhere that some analysis company figured that BD sales would overtake DVD sales in 2012!?! And once they're even, I don't even think GL would be satisfied then. He'll probably wait for something like and 80:20 ratio in favor of BD. He's a smart business man. He knows how to get a lot of money in a short amount of time, that's for sure. And that's how he'll do it.

HD MickeyVee · 06-25-2008, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ryoohki

LOL Patton Reference??? it's the worst DNR Patch job ever. It barely look better than the DVD Upscaled. Look at the screenshot over AVS FORUm, Bluray Software Section. The DVD has EE, but the Blu-ray don't apart from that it look very close

Even so, just compare the highest quality title on blu-ray to the year the movie was put out. You are missing my point.

supersix4 · 06-25-2008, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by tiger roach

indeed...

lol really, these movies take ton's of time to be done I'm sure the studio could rush you a dvd version in a blu-ray box if you'd like to pay top dollar for it...

oh and to add to that the star wars set did not come out on dvd till 2004 and indiana jones did not see dvd till 2003 ...

dvd players first launched in the us in 1997

6 years for indiana jones
7 years for star wars

HD MickeyVee · 06-25-2008, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by supersix4

lol really, these movies take ton's of time to be done I'm sure the studio could rush you a dvd version in a blu-ray box if you'd like to pay top dollar for it...

oh and to add to that the star wars set did not come out on dvd till 2004 and indiana jones did not see dvd till 2003 ...

dvd players first launched in the us in 1997

6 years for indiana jones
7 years for star wars

Why not just hire help to get them out early? The studios can certainly afford it.

SS316SRV · 06-25-2008, 03:25 PM

(Insert dignified, yet slighty sarcastic response here)

stockstar1138 · 06-25-2008, 03:27 PM

pretty sure this guy is a troll. just a hunch.

ill give him the fact that he is a good troll though.

HD MickeyVee kind of sounds like HD DVD to me.

Sorry, if Im wrong.

supersix4 · 06-25-2008, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by HD MickeyVee

Why not just hire help to get them out early? The studios can certainly afford it.

I don't work for them so I don't know how it get's done. I'd rather it take 6 years and be jaw dropping then rushed and look like lethal weapon 2

just because these movies are all on dvd and have doubles and triples of the series out didn't mean they just came out two years after dvd was released.

stockstar1138 · 06-25-2008, 03:31 PM

and why is there no big catalog blockbusters? because they would sell like crap.

The best selling blu-ray has only sold about 400k and we all know that catalog titles sell worse than day-and-dates, so the very best Star Wars or Indiana Jones is going to sell is 300k probably, which Lucas is not going to waste his time with. He wants to be able to sell millions when they come out.

arush5268d · 06-25-2008, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by HD MickeyVee

Why not just hire help to get them out early? The studios can certainly afford it.

I bet you can find the titles that you seek on HD-DVD.

SS316SRV · 06-25-2008, 03:34 PM

Can we please get this thread closed? What is the point?

supersix4 · 06-25-2008, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by stockstar1138

and why is there no big catalog blockbusters? because they would sell like crap.

The best selling blu-ray has only sold about 400k and we all know that catalog titles sell worse than day-and-dates, so the very best Star Wars or Indiana Jones is going to sell is 300k probably, which Lucas is not going to waste his time with. He wants to be able to sell millions when they come out.

+ after a couple months the prices would fall and lot's of people would be able to find the set dirt cheap, I do think 300-400k is a little low considering certin "blockbuster's"

Beta Man · 06-25-2008, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by HD MickeyVee

Why not just hire help to get them out early? The studios can certainly afford it.

It's not their lack of capacity when it comes to a Lucas title..... that has been pointed out already...... Lucas will hold onto them for years.... in order to garner top dollar for them.

supersix4 · 06-25-2008, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Beta Man

It's not their lack of capacity when it comes to a Lucas title..... that has been pointed out already...... Lucas will hold onto them for years.... in order to garner top dollar for them.

right, dvd first over took vhs on june 15th 2003 it took another year for the star wars titles to come out they want max $$$$.

arush5268d · 06-25-2008, 03:43 PM

Do you think that the Lucas films will have black bars? I hate those things

06-25-2008, 03:00 PM	#1
HD MickeyVee New Member Member since:Jun 2008 Location:Delaware	Where are the huge back-catalog blockbusters? I've noticed that none of the big announcements for blu-ray have included some of the highest grossing blockbuster titles of all time that everyone is clamoring for. Titles like the Jurassic Park series, the Indiana Jones Collection, The Matrix Collection, The Lord of the Rings Trilogy, King Kong, The Star Wars series, The original Alien series, E.T. & many more. Does anyone have a clue why these huge movies are taking so long to be announced for blu-ray? These are guaranteed hits and all we seem to get are announcments for movies that most people consider a good rent at best.

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06-25-2008, 03:04 PM	#2
ryoohki Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2007 Home Theater Gallery:6 Blu-ray collection:6 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:5	Anything that has George Lucas written over.. Forget it for the next 5-7 years (he did the same thing with DVD) I mean we ***** about transfert of catalog title, yet we want everything out now. A Lot of transfert have been butchered for DVD release and now they are stuck ReDoing it .. witch takes time..

06-25-2008, 03:06 PM	#3
tiger roach Special Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Houston, TX Blu-ray collection:141 Blu-ray reviews:1	indeed...

06-25-2008, 03:10 PM	#4
HD MickeyVee New Member Member since:Jun 2008 Location:Delaware	You say it takes time but how much time? How can a blu-ray reference title like Patton come out so quickly when the movie itself is from 1970, and yet, movies that are less than ten years old can't be transferred the same way in the same amount of time? It makes no sense.

06-25-2008, 03:15 PM	#6
Sonny Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Aug 2007 Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray reviews:6 Trading Score:1	Rotflmao!!!!!!!!!!!:d

06-25-2008, 03:16 PM	#7
cajmoyper Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jun 2007 Location:San Antonio, TX Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray collection:182	That just goes to show you that it's not just about the transfer. I think I remember G Lucas saying that he wanted to wait until the market was way more saturated with BD for his SW movies. I read somewhere that some analysis company figured that BD sales would overtake DVD sales in 2012!?! And once they're even, I don't even think GL would be satisfied then. He'll probably wait for something like and 80:20 ratio in favor of BD. He's a smart business man. He knows how to get a lot of money in a short amount of time, that's for sure. And that's how he'll do it.

06-25-2008, 03:25 PM	#11
SS316SRV Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Appleton, WI Blu-ray collection:74	(Insert dignified, yet slighty sarcastic response here)

06-25-2008, 03:27 PM	#12
stockstar1138 Banned Member since:Apr 2007	pretty sure this guy is a troll. just a hunch. ill give him the fact that he is a good troll though. HD MickeyVee kind of sounds like HD DVD to me. Sorry, if Im wrong.

06-25-2008, 03:31 PM	#14
stockstar1138 Banned Member since:Apr 2007	and why is there no big catalog blockbusters? because they would sell like crap. The best selling blu-ray has only sold about 400k and we all know that catalog titles sell worse than day-and-dates, so the very best Star Wars or Indiana Jones is going to sell is 300k probably, which Lucas is not going to waste his time with. He wants to be able to sell millions when they come out.

06-25-2008, 03:34 PM	#16
SS316SRV Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Appleton, WI Blu-ray collection:74	Can we please get this thread closed? What is the point?

06-25-2008, 03:43 PM	#20
arush5268d Banned Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Houston, TX Blu-ray collection:85	Do you think that the Lucas films will have black bars? I hate those things

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